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05-29-2011, 05:48 PM
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In three mocks I've seen, John Gibson goes 22, 25, and 26 and he's ranked as the #1 North American goalie.

Seems very unlikely he falls to #32.
Anyone who's taking a goalie in the first round of this draft is making a mistake IMO. I wouldn't take one in the second round either, unless I had multiple picks at my disposal. YMMV, of course.

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I have this sneaking suspicion that the Blues will walk away with one of Jaskin, Jenner, or Jurco at the draft (or even Jensen if he somehow falls out of the first round).

Call it my "J" hunch of the day.

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I was in charge of the Blues for the annual Habs board mock draft this year and wrapped up my final pick last night, just thought I'd share the results here and possibly get some feedback. I didn't really keep organizational needs in mind to be honest, and just picked the guys I liked Hope I did you proud anyway:

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2011 Draft: Final Results

32. Ty Rattie, F
41. Seth Ambroz, F
46. Xavier Ouellet, D
71. Adam Lowry, F
83. Benjamin Conz, G
101. Alan Quine, F
131. Jyrki Jokipakka, D
161. Blake Coleman, F
191. Martin Gernat, D


Summary: with our first two picks we grabbed a couple of forwards who, while they have some question marks, have top-end talent and could easily turn out to be strong top-six players. Ouellet is a safe pick and someone who we think is virtually a guaranteed NHLer, in at least some capacity. Conz may be a reach at 83 but we liked him last year and didn't want to miss the boat this year. Quine and Coleman also possess strong offensive acumen while Lowry, if he doesn't put it together as a top line player, could easily slide into a checking role. In the later rounds, Jokipakka and Gernat are both big two-way defensemen who have tantalizing upside.

Thanks to all the other GMs and especially Habsfan18 for a great draft


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06-01-2011, 11:07 AM
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I was in charge of the Blues for the annual Habs board mock draft this year and wrapped up my final pick last night, just thought I'd share the results here and possibly get some feedback. I didn't really keep organizational needs in mind to be honest, and just picked the guys I liked Hope I did you proud anyway:

2011 Draft: Final Results

32. Ty Rattie, F
41. Seth Ambroz, F
46. Xavier Ouellet, D
71. Adam Lowry, F
83. Benjamin Conz, G
101. Alan Quine, F
131. Jyrki Jokipakka, D
161. Blake Coleman, F
191. Martin Gernat, D
Rattie's a good pick; he was one of the options I was considering at 32nd overall in both of the mocks I'm in. He's what I'd call a "safe" pick for the Blues.

I like the Ambroz pick, and the Lowry pick. Ouellet I don't know much about, but I wouldn't draft Conz. The Blues could get a better netminder at 83rd overall, and one that's likely to want to play here rather than stay in Switzerland.

I don't see Quine sticking around until 101st overall, but if he does, that's probably not a bad pick there.

I'm OK with the Jokipakka selection; he has a good frame at at 6-03, 191, and if he can put on another 20 pounds in the next couple of years without losing any speed or maneuverability, Armstrong seems to have a good rapport with the Finns.

Coleman (59 GP, 34-58-92, plus-51, 72 PM, 11 PP, 5 GW) is good value in the sixth round, and has four years at Miami-Ohio to develop at no cost to the Blues.

Gernat's a cypher, but at 191st overall, if he busts, it's no big deal.

Not a bad draft, all things considered.

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06-03-2011, 05:03 PM
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Who else had mono? I say we throw away the draft rankings and just take all the guys who had mono, after what Pietro has done.
I've had mono, can I get taken in the seventh? Please?

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06-05-2011, 09:06 AM
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Dmitrij Jaskin - here's another talented kid that could fall to us.

I know, he's a Euro and there's a lot of risk involved. I think he's coming over to the WHL next season.

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My humble guess(es):

32- Rocco Grimaldi (USNTDP)
41- Tomas Jurco (Saint John, QMJHL)
46- Logan Shaw (Cape Breton, QMJHL)

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06-06-2011, 12:20 PM
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My humble guess(es):

32- Rocco Grimaldi (USNTDP)
41- Tomas Jurco (Saint John, QMJHL)
46- Logan Shaw (Cape Breton, QMJHL)
As much as I like these picks, I really don't see Grimaldi falling from the first round. And there is no way Jurco falls to 46. I would love to get those two players but I really don't see it happening.

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With their second pick in the third round, the St. Louis Blues select

Jesse Forsberg

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06-10-2011, 07:07 PM
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Looking at the Blues prospects the most glaring need is at center, then left wing. With 5 picks in rounds 2 and 3 the Blues can address overall depth needs. It would be nice to add depth on D and in goal after addressing needs up front however the Blues may be able to trade up, trade for a veteran/veterans or move picks for better picks next year. There could be many options. Looking at the rankings there are several players that there appear to be a variety of opinions about by the experts. The Blues have stated they like hockey IQ. Does a player like Mayfield with STL connections fit the mold or is he talent with questionable hockey sence. I look forward to the next 3 plus weeks to see what the Blues do. They are very close yet the players know the money isn't there to make the team better.

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06-10-2011, 07:32 PM
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I'd like to see five forwards, three defensemen and one goalie with the nine picks.

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06-10-2011, 09:31 PM
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The Blues really need to capitalize on their second round picks this year not only due to the shear numbers, but also with their record post lockout.

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The Blues really need to capitalize on their second round picks this year not only due to the shear numbers, but also with their record post lockout.
Here's what I've picked in one of the Mock Drafts going on here at HF right now:




OVR PLAYER .............. 2010-11 CLUB. LEAGUE. BIRTHDATE . HEIGHT .. WEIGHT. POSN S . GP . GL-AS-PTS . .+/- . PM . P-S-W
OVR PLAYER .............. 2010-11 CLUB. LEAGUE. BIRTHDATE . HEIGHT .. WEIGHT. POSN C . GP . WN-LS-OTL . .GAA . SO . SAVE%
=== ===================== ============= ======= =========== ========= ======= ==== = = == = ========= = ==== = == = =====


032 KHOKHLACHEV, ALEX ... WINDSOR ..... OHL ... 09-SEP-1993 5' 10.00" 188 LBS C/LW L . 67 . 34-42-.76 . + .9 . 28 .12-0-0
041 GIBSON, JOHN ........ USNTDP U18 .. USHL .. 14-JUL-1993 6' 02.75" 205 LBS .. G L . 40 . 24-11-..3 . 2.55 . .1 . 0.921
046 AMBROZ, SETH ........ OMAHA ....... USHL .. 03-APR-1993 6' 02.00" 211 LBS . RW R . 56 . 24-22-.46 . + .3 . 89 . 8-1-2
071 NOEBELS, MARCEL ..... SEATTLE ..... WHL ... 14-MAR-1992 6' 02.50" 195 LBS . LW L . 66 . 28-26-.54 . - 11 . 23 . 7-1-3
087 KOUDYS, PATRICK ..... RENSSELAER .. ECAC .. 19-NOV-1992 6' 02.25" 190 LBS .. D L . 32 . .1-.2-..3 . - .1 . 14 . 0-0-0
101 LOWE, KEEGAN ........ EDMONTON .... WHL ... 29-MAR-1993 6' 01.00" 173 LBS .. D L . 71 . .2-22-.24 . + 33 .123 . 0-0-0

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06-10-2011, 10:30 PM
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Here's what I've picked in one of the Mock Drafts going on here at HF right now:




OVR PLAYER .............. 2010-11 CLUB. LEAGUE. BIRTHDATE . HEIGHT .. WEIGHT. POSN S . GP . GL-AS-PTS . .+/- . PM . P-S-W
OVR PLAYER .............. 2010-11 CLUB. LEAGUE. BIRTHDATE . HEIGHT .. WEIGHT. POSN C . GP . WN-LS-OTL . .GAA . SO . SAVE%
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032 KHOKHLACHEV, ALEX ... WINDSOR ..... OHL ... 09-SEP-1993 5' 10.00" 188 LBS C/LW L . 67 . 34-42-.76 . + .9 . 28 .12-0-0
041 GIBSON, JOHN ........ USNTDP U18 .. USHL .. 14-JUL-1993 6' 02.75" 205 LBS .. G L . 40 . 24-11-..3 . 2.55 . .1 . 0.921
046 AMBROZ, SETH ........ OMAHA ....... USHL .. 03-APR-1993 6' 02.00" 211 LBS . RW R . 56 . 24-22-.46 . + .3 . 89 . 8-1-2
071 NOEBELS, MARCEL ..... SEATTLE ..... WHL ... 14-MAR-1992 6' 02.50" 195 LBS . LW L . 66 . 28-26-.54 . - 11 . 23 . 7-1-3
087 KOUDYS, PATRICK ..... RENSSELAER .. ECAC .. 19-NOV-1992 6' 02.25" 190 LBS .. D L . 32 . .1-.2-..3 . - .1 . 14 . 0-0-0
101 LOWE, KEEGAN ........ EDMONTON .... WHL ... 29-MAR-1993 6' 01.00" 173 LBS .. D L . 71 . .2-22-.24 . + 33 .123 . 0-0-0
Love what I've seen from Noebels, could be a great sleeper pick or even slip in to the second round somewhere.

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This could be a draft where every board looks dramatically different and lead to a lot of swapping depending on how people prioritize the selections with uncertainty of who will still be around, especially with teams that have multiple 1st rounders and 2nd rounders being able to take more chances.

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Looking at the Blues prospects the most glaring need is at center, then left wing. With 5 picks in rounds 2 and 3 the Blues can address overall depth needs. It would be nice to add depth on D and in goal after addressing needs up front however the Blues may be able to trade up, trade for a veteran/veterans or move picks for better picks next year. There could be many options. Looking at the rankings there are several players that there appear to be a variety of opinions about by the experts. The Blues have stated they like hockey IQ. Does a player like Mayfield with STL connections fit the mold or is he talent with questionable hockey sence. I look forward to the next 3 plus weeks to see what the Blues do. They are very close yet the players know the money isn't there to make the team better.
The book on Mayfield is that he's a big kid who is a very good skater but has questionable hockey sense. Reminds me of the scouting reports on Shawn Belle from 8 years ago.

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The book on Mayfield is that he's a big kid who is a very good skater but has questionable hockey sense. Reminds me of the scouting reports on Shawn Belle from 8 years ago.
Yikes!

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Interesting interview with Bill Armstrong


8. What type of characteristics are you looking for in the possible draft pick?

Well there are a lot of different characteristics. I think hockey sense has always been the biggest one for the Blues. We try to draft kids with great hockey sense. If you look at Jaden Schwartz, you can see how he makes everyone around him better, and he’s been able to put up points at all different levels. We try to draft kids that are smart hockey players. That’s probably the biggest thing we look for as a staff.

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That too me is not really much of a supprise. I think hockey sense is one of the big 3 intangables - like character and work ethic. Those are things you can't change because it is an inate ability and part of who you are as a person.

Looking at some of the mocks and THN draft guide - I would really like to see us wind up with a 3 of the following:

With pick 32.

1. Rocco Grimaldi - based on him doing well at the combine - I don't think he will be there in the 2nd round. (I like him a lot based on what I have read, but I wouldn't move up to get him - we already have a simular player in Jaden).

2. Vladi Namestnikov - be nice to have a russian who is already here in the US - may help w/ Tarasenko's transition, but likely wont be in the NHL yet when Tara comes over.

3. Joe Morrow - Solid dman.

4. Mario Lucia, Jurco, Jensen - But I really don't see this unless we move up. (I would likely be willing to trade up to get one of these three).

With pick 41.

1. Oscar Klefbon - but he may not be there (I would also take him at 32 if the above mentioned players are off the board).

2. Bonne Jenner
3. Mark Scheifele
4. Micheal St. Croix


With the last pick in the 2nd round

1. Seth Ambroz
2. Victor Rask
3. Connor Murphy

That would be a good draft IMO.

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The book on Mayfield is that he's a big kid who is a very good skater but has questionable hockey sense. Reminds me of the scouting reports on Shawn Belle from 8 years ago.
Yeah. Same here. Except Belle was the best natural athlete Jarmo had ever seem. He talked about that when we picked him. I agree - let someone else fall in love with his skating.... Stay away from Dmen short on hockey sense.

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That too me is not really much of a supprise. I think hockey sense is one of the big 3 intangables - like character and work ethic. Those are things you can't change because it is an inate ability and part of who you are as a person.

Looking at some of the mocks and THN draft guide - I would really like to see us wind up with a 3 of the following:

With pick 32.

1. Rocco Grimaldi - based on him doing well at the combine - I don't think he will be there in the 2nd round. (I like him a lot based on what I have read, but I wouldn't move up to get him - we already have a simular player in Jaden).

2. Vladi Namestnikov - be nice to have a russian who is already here in the US - may help w/ Tarasenko's transition, but likely wont be in the NHL yet when Tara comes over.

3. Joe Morrow - Solid dman.

4. Mario Lucia, Jurco, Jensen - But I really don't see this unless we move up. (I would likely be willing to trade up to get one of these three).

With pick 41.

1. Oscar Klefbon - but he may not be there (I would also take him at 32 if the above mentioned players are off the board).

2. Bonne Jenner
3. Mark Scheifele
4. Micheal St. Croix


With the last pick in the 2nd round

1. Seth Ambroz
2. Victor Rask
3. Connor Murphy

That would be a good draft IMO.
Prediction: Grimaldi and Scheifele won't be available after the 15th pick, and Klefbom won't be there past the 1st round. I don't like anything I'm hearing about Ambroz. Rask is a big risk as well - he could pay off though; I wouldn't be against using one of our 2nd's on him (if we keep all of our 2nd's).

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In the mod mock draft, Grimaldi was taken 30th so it was damn close, I picked up Kohkhlachev at 32.

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Anyone else get the feeling that this will be one of those drafts where some of the best players come from outside of the 1st round?

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Anyone else get the feeling that this will be one of those drafts where some of the best players come from outside of the 1st round?
I think that's definitely possible...players like Jaskin, Tvrdon, Rattie, Rask, Catenacci, Kichton, Friberg, Salomaki, etc. are big question marks...their potential is really high, but who knows if they'll reach it.

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I think that's definitely possible...players like Jaskin, Tvrdon, Rattie, Rask, Catenacci, Kichton, Friberg, Salomaki, etc. are big question marks...their potential is really high, but who knows if they'll reach it.
Seems like a lot of 1sts fall into that category too.

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