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05-30-2011, 07:33 PM
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trade Cory Sarich

to Detroit Red Wings

for a 3rd in 2011 (84th)




trade Robyn Regehr

to Washington Capitals for

Braden Holtby and a 3rd in 2012



trade D. Langkow

to Montreal Canadiens for

Aaron Palushaj and a 3rd in 2011 (77th)

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05-30-2011, 07:36 PM
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trade Cory Sarich

to Detroit Red Wings

for a 3rd in 2011 (84th)




trade Robyn Regehr

to Washington Capitals for

Braden Holtby and a 3rd in 2012


I also feel the need to facepalm.

Why would Calgary trade 2 of their shutdown d-men for a small return. Also, Regehr would return much more then that.

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05-30-2011, 08:05 PM
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Washington receives:
-Robyn Regehr

Calgary receives:
-Jeff Schultz
-Eric Fehr
-3rd round pick

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05-30-2011, 08:27 PM
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Washington receives:
-Robyn Regehr

Calgary receives:
-Jeff Schultz
-HOLBTY/NEUVIRTH
-3rd round pick
FIXED

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05-30-2011, 08:34 PM
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isn t Holtby a goalie why would calgary trade for a goalie

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05-30-2011, 09:15 PM
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trade Cory Sarich

to Detroit Red Wings

for a 3rd in 2011 (84th)




trade Robyn Regehr

to Washington Capitals for

Braden Holtby and a 3rd in 2012



trade D. Langkow

to Montreal Canadiens for

Aaron Palushaj and a 3rd in 2011 (77th)

What possible use do you imagine the Canadiens would have for Langkow?
The don't need his salary, don't need a center and have no desire to deplete prospect depth.

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05-31-2011, 12:03 AM
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trade Cory Sarich

to Detroit Red Wings

for a 3rd in 2011 (84th)




trade Robyn Regehr

to Washington Capitals for

Braden Holtby and a 3rd in 2012



trade D. Langkow

to Montreal Canadiens for

Aaron Palushaj and a 3rd in 2011 (77th)
The Flames' defence looks absolutey awful after these trades. How exactly do a bunch of 3rd round picks fix the Flames?

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05-31-2011, 12:11 AM
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Don't all those 3 Flames have no-trade clauses?

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05-31-2011, 12:16 AM
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Don't all those 3 Flames have no-trade clauses?
Don't like all the flames have no-trade clauses?

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Hudler + Ferraro + Det 3rd 2011 + Rights to Jonathan Ericsson


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Don't all those 3 Flames have no-trade clauses?
Yes but if they're going to contenders do you see them exercising those options? Probably not.

I don't like these trades for the Flames anyway. Not enough coming back. Sarich is really undervalued and there's no way they can trade both Sarich and Regehr unless they plan on doing a complete tank in which case they might as well unload everyone.

I'd like to see them trade on Dman to open up a spot for either Erixon or Brodie but that's about it.

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05-31-2011, 09:56 AM
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I'd like to see them trade on Dman to open up a spot for either Erixon or Brodie but that's about it.
The 3rd pairing is basically up for grabs. If either of them show that they can make it, then they'll take it.

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05-31-2011, 10:59 AM
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...only deal the Flames would be interested in doing is the 3rd for Sarich. Regehr is worth more than all of those deals.

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Not interested in Langkow.

If the habs could dump Spacek, we'd do the 3rd for Sarich.

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05-31-2011, 11:27 AM
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The one thing to be sure of is that the Flames won't trade Regehr unless they are getting a center back...and not another Stajan/Langkow, it would need to be a top six guy.

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Boyes ($4m/1y)
Morrisonn ($2.075m/1y)

for

Sarich ($3.6m/1y)
Stajan ($3.5m/3ys)

Calgary gets a 50pts-ish 2nd line winger, so that Moss/Glencross can play on the 3rd line. They get rid of Stajan's contract and save about $1m in caphit next year. Morrisonn's contract is also easier to bury in the minors, if he can't make it into their top 6.

Buffalo gets their solid veteran top 4 d-man and a center for their 3rd line. They have cap space, so Stajan's isn't that big of a burden. They build up their center depth and get rid of Morrisonn. This year's UFA depth is pretty decent regarding depth winger, so they have options to replace Boyes.

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Question #1 is "Do the Flames still think they can win with their vets or should they go in full rebuild mode?"

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Question #1 is "Do the Flames still think they can win with their vets or should they go in full rebuild mode?"
Yes, because the only option ever for a team is to totally blow things up and rebuild all the time unless they are Stanley Cup favorites. The rebuild has also worked so well for teams like Toronto, Atlanta, NYI, and Florida...errr wait.

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05-31-2011, 12:22 PM
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Yes, because the only option ever for a team is to totally blow things up and rebuild all the time unless they are Stanley Cup favorites. The rebuild has also worked so well for teams like Toronto, Atlanta, NYI, and Florida...errr wait.
Rather than resort to sarcasm, how about actually intelligently discussing the Flames options', being that this is a hockey discussion forum?

I don't think they have many options, between severely limited cap space, NTC/NMCs, and players who are somewhat unattractive to trade for.. Feaster will have to wait it out and let the damage that Sutter did ease over time..

What the Flames need to do won't show up on ther roster. Much larger investment in scouting and player development.

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05-31-2011, 12:50 PM
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Rather than resort to sarcasm, how about actually intelligently discussing the Flames options', being that this is a hockey discussion forum?

I don't think they have many options, between severely limited cap space, NTC/NMCs, and players who are somewhat unattractive to trade for.. Feaster will have to wait it out and let the damage that Sutter did ease over time..

What the Flames need to do won't show up on ther roster. Much larger investment in scouting and player development.
I think that based on the strong second half of the season Calgary had that they'll try to carry that over to next year, also, the salary cap is tight right now, where they'll really have some nice cap relief is at the end of next season, where they'll have Kotalik, Sarich, Hagman, Lankow, Jokinen as the big contract expiring, all in all, they will have about 20 million worth of expiring contracts. So I don't think things are all that terrible in Flames land. They do need to continue to not sacrifice draft picks and prospects as that's definitely the weakest part of the organization right now.

I think that 20 million can be put to good use as far as re-tooling their depth and finding better fits to make the team competitive. If Feaster could try to find a way to unload Stajan I would be very happy, even with a bounce back year I don't think he'll surpass being a third line center.

Based on the turnaround we saw with the Flames this year I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a 5-8 finish in the west.

What Calgary can't do is trade a player like Regehr for a scatter of 2nd-3rd line talent, they have more than enough of that.

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05-31-2011, 01:29 PM
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I don't think Calgary has to worry about trading Langkow, Hagman or Kotalik right away. Those contracts expire next season. Keep them for now, see if they can contribute. They either help the team make the playoffs, get traded at the deadline, or just play the season then disappear.

Stajan may be a problem because of his contract term, but he may yet be a #2 center.

The real change will be in the next offseason.

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05-31-2011, 01:42 PM
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Rather than resort to sarcasm, how about actually intelligently discussing the Flames options', being that this is a hockey discussion forum?
The constant suggestions that Calgary's only option is a blow up are ridiculous. They barely missed the playoffs despite getting off to an awful start. These kind of suggestions have been made over and over again. I don't see why each one deserves a response. Calgary has pubically stated they are not rebuilding.

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I don't think they have many options, between severely limited cap space, NTC/NMCs, and players who are somewhat unattractive to trade for.. Feaster will have to wait it out and let the damage that Sutter did ease over time..
The majority of the Flames contracts expire after this year. Beyond that they have a ton of cap space and a tone of options.

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What the Flames need to do won't show up on ther roster. Much larger investment in scouting and player development.
I don't disagree with this. However, purposely destroying the organization by tanking over and over is not a guarantee for sucess. It worked for Pitts but only because they drafted Crosby. There are no Crosby's on the near horizon.

The idea that blowups are necessary relies on the idea that top players can only be had in the first few picks. This simply isn't true. If you look at Chicago, many of the pieces to their sucess came from later rounds. Vancouver has Kesler who was acquired lae in the round. The Flames are much better off keeping what they have and adding pieces.

Once Iggy is truely done, they can re-evaluate.

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05-31-2011, 07:30 PM
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Question #1 is "Do the Flames still think they can win with their vets or should they go in full rebuild mode?"
The Flames aren't rebuilding. There is nothing to discuss here.

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