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05-31-2011, 08:41 AM
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How long do we keep there rights? The KHL is becoming our 2 farm team!

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05-31-2011, 09:03 AM
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In a perfect world i would probably have kept Dawes around. If injuries hit i'd have some confidence in him playing a regular shift at the NHL level. Boyd is easily replaceable.

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Dawes has played the equivalent of amost 3 full seasons in the NHL. Management probably feels they have a good handle on what he can contribute. Looks like they felt they could find better value elsewhere.
Exactly. Dawes had plenty of time to prove himself in the NHL. He's 26, we can say now that he would not have become more than AHLer-border line NHL player.

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Exactly. Dawes had plenty of time to prove himself in the NHL. He's 26, we can say now that he would not have become more than AHLer-border line NHL player.
Well, I don't considerer him necessarely a AHLer. He did have a season with 14 goals 18 assists in 66 games in 2009-2010. Average of 14:30min per game of IT.

Considering the way our Wingers did this season, I would have like to see him having a real chance on a first or second line. The only reason it would probably never happen is because of his size and the fact that we are already small on the first 2 lines.

I don't mind losing Boyd but I would have love to see Dawes with the dogs to put the puck in the net on passes from Leblanc. Would have help Leblanc' self-confidence and help him getting better. Hope Palushaj will be able to fill the net aswel as Avtsin and maybe Kristo.

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So long Justin! We hardly knew ye.

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I'm not sure why Dawes never caught on in the NHL to be honest. He's no great shakes but with his profile he seems like a decent enough 3-4th liner with some skill. The Habs used worse players in that role last year (see: Boyd, Dustin). Maybe this is a case of unmet higher expectations.

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05-31-2011, 10:15 AM
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Probably the right move. Takes a lot of courage, but they have to make some money in the prime of their careers, and both have passed through waivers, so they know the chances of spending an entire season in the NHL are slim.

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Kristo/Leblanc will take their spots just fine.
I believe Kristo confirmed that he's playing another season at ND?

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How long do we keep there rights? The KHL is becoming our 2 farm team!
Depends on if we qualify them or not.

Sucks to lose Dawes, gona need to replace him with a vet.

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05-31-2011, 10:22 AM
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I'm not sure why Dawes never caught on in the NHL to be honest. He's no great shakes but with his profile he seems like a decent enough 3-4th liner with some skill. The Habs used worse players in that role last year (see: Boyd, Dustin). Maybe this is a case of unmet higher expectations.
To their credit, once they were sure that Boyd was terrible they dumped him to the minors and didn't once get tempted to bring him back. I have my doubts that Dawes would be any better than Pouliot and they'd be playing for the same role as bottom six goalscorer. Moen and Pyatt are there to be defensive specialists and penalty killers and so that leaves Darche or White as players to beat out for a spot. I don't think there is all that much to indicate that he's good enough to be worth bumping off one of them.

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Boyd must've sold him hard on the idea considering Dawes probably had a chance to play in the NHL next year.

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aren't they both rfa? so they can't sign till july 1st http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=2
i call bs haha

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can't understand it for the life of me.

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That's a lot of leadership we're losing down in the AHL, after hearing Desharnais praising Gomez's leadership abilities maybe we can send him down to help out the young guys.

Hopefully this means Avtsin can get some regular time on a scoring line next year.

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aren't they both rfa? so they can't sign till july 1st http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=2
i call bs haha
They can sign whenever they want, since it's another league, not another team.

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Bad news if Gauthier can't find anybody to replace them for the Dogs....If he does it, no big deal. Only Dawes could be a depth player for the Habs, the guy was not going to reproduce his AHL numbers in the NHL.

Time for Gauthier to go and get solid AHL'ers. Starts with keeping McIntyre. And adding some vets to the kids we have. Honestly, I'll say that the development/prospects camps could be the most interesting camps in a long time. I will predict some really interesting invitations....

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Bad news if Gauthier can't find anybody to replace them for the Dogs....If he does it, no big deal. Only Dawes could be a depth player for the Habs, the guy was not going to reproduce his AHL numbers in the NHL.

Time for Gauthier to go and get solid AHL'ers. Starts with keeping McIntyre. And adding some vets to the kids we have. Honestly, I'll say that the development/prospects camps could be the most interesting camps in a long time. I will predict some really interesting invitations....
Honestly, I'm pretty happy about this. I really want to see how potential top 6'ers like Leblanc, Palushaj, Avtsin handle big offensive minutes in the AHL. It's kind of a waste of time for Dawes and Boyd to be clogging up those minutes, because you know they'll never actually crack our line-up in an offensive role. That's why the Pacioretty/Desharnais combination was so fruitful last year. You really felt like their scoring prowess was going actually going to amount to something one day, and it did.

Disclaimer: I don't necessarily believe that Leblanc, Palushaj or Avtsin will star for the Canadiens on the top 2 lines, but I'd like to at least find out if they can dominate the AHL without one of these superstar AHLers maybe hiding how good they actually are.

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Oh the irony of Boyd ending up the player in the Sergei Kostitsyn deal going to the KHL.

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It's not about making the NHL or being good enough or our young guns getting ice time.. No. It's about the KHL offering monster contracts to these 2 players that they will NEVER get in North America.

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Oh the irony of Boyd ending up the player in the Sergei Kostitsyn deal going to the KHL.
I was just going to post this. Surprised nobody else mentioned it. Too funny.

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Honestly, I'm pretty happy about this. I really want to see how potential top 6'ers like Leblanc, Palushaj, Avtsin handle big offensive minutes in the AHL. It's kind of a waste of time for Dawes and Boyd to be clogging up those minutes, because you know they'll never actually crack our line-up in an offensive role. That's why the Pacioretty/Desharnais combination was so fruitful last year. You really felt like their scoring prowess was going actually going to amount to something one day, and it did.

Disclaimer: I don't necessarily believe that Leblanc, Palushaj or Avtsin will star for the Canadiens on the top 2 lines, but I'd like to at least find out if they can dominate the AHL without one of these superstar AHLers maybe hiding how good they actually are.
You need the vets. No vets, no playoffs like they had this year. Not the experience either. It's crucial. We do not have the lineup with the kids we have to go as far as we did this year. You can't expect a Leblanc to do what Desharnais did. Desharnais crushed every league he's been in. It was David's 4th year with the Dogs this year.

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Oh the irony of Boyd ending up the player in the Sergei Kostitsyn deal going to the KHL.
Good point. Especially after reading so many "Sergei will leave for the KHL" comments...

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AHL teams have to expect frequent turnovers in personnel. The Habs will sign free agents to replace them. Who knows, the replacements might be able to play for the Habs some day.

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Good point. Especially after reading so many "Sergei will leave for the KHL" comments...
I wouldn't be suprised if SK ends up there next year, he had a poor finish and might be settling into the mediocre play he showed his last year with the Habs.

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Any good Swiss forward lately?

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Any good Swiss forward lately?
We can draft Bartschi but he'll probably be gone before #17. Diaz might have to be alone in Hamilton

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