HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > Calgary Flames
Notices

Hamrliks Numbers Very Close To Niedermayer

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
08-22-2005, 08:57 AM
  #51
abracanada
Registered User
 
abracanada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,574
vCash: 500
Hamrliks stats are in the same class as Niedermayers. His game, is not. I have to take this on face value from the posters who live in the NY area and probably had an opportunity to watch both play. When you don't have the opportunity to see a lot of play by Niedermayer or Hamrlik, you don't really have much else to go on other than stats. That will change this year I believe.

abracanada is offline  
Old
08-22-2005, 09:00 AM
  #52
abracanada
Registered User
 
abracanada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,574
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil4life44
The problem with Hamrlik is the way he plays in his own zone. His +/- has been brutal. Romans career +/- is a stellar -101 regualar season and in the playoffs -16. Niedermayer on the other hand is +172 regualar season and +19 in the playoffs. Pronger comes in with a +125 regualr season and +15 in the playoffs. I don't think Sutter will even be able to help Hamrlik play well defensively.

As far as some of you Flames fans trying to put a negative spin on the Pronger trade because we gave up Brewer. Feast your eyes on these numbers from 03/04 Edmonton Blueliners.

Jason Smith GP 68 Goals 7 assists 12 +13
Steve StaiosGP 82 Goals 6 assists 22 +17
Cory Cross GP 68 Goals 7 assists 14 +9
Bergeron GP 54 Goals 9 assists 17 +13
Igor Ulanov GP 42 Goals 5 assists 13 +19
Eric Brewer GP 77 Goals 7 assists 18 -6

So how can you say Lowe didn't vastly improve his club by trading his worst performing defenceman from 03/04 for CHRIS PRONGER. Frickin Genius trade. Brewer doesn't know how to use his size and strenth effectively. Maybe someday he will, but the Oil were not waiting any longer. People are going to find out that Brewer is vastly overrated and that the main reasoon he played for the Canadian Olympic team was KEVIN LOWE. He is a career -32 defenceman on a team that has steadily scored more goals than they give up, and he can't hit the broad side of a barn on the pp. It's one thing to have an awesome offensive dman that scores you alot of points but can't play well in his own zone but that isn't the case for Brewer. For Sutters sake Hamrlik better score a ton of goals because he will be on the ice plenty when the other team does.
All of a sudden, Brewer is a bum. Funny how a change in shades of blue can do that to a player.

abracanada is offline  
Old
08-22-2005, 10:05 AM
  #53
oil4life14
Registered User
 
oil4life14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 774
vCash: 500
Brewer isn't a bum, he hasn't delivered very well. He is young and has potential. He was the Oilers worst defencemen in 03/04, to package up him with another couple maybes for one of the leagues top three dmans is a steal. The media tryed to hype up Brewer as a #1 defanceman when he was far from that. He might have played #1 minutes but had 5/6 numbers. Good job Kevin Lowe

oil4life14 is offline  
Old
08-22-2005, 10:38 AM
  #54
Resolute
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,125
vCash: 500
There might not be a stat that is less useful than +/-.

Resolute is offline  
Old
08-22-2005, 11:19 AM
  #55
oil4life14
Registered User
 
oil4life14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 774
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute
There might not be a stat that is less useful than +/-.
Wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oil4life14 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:13 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.