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06-01-2011, 01:34 AM
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Agreed.

I hope it's not to Quebec. I hate Quebec.

Can Las Vegas actually support a team? Or is the population too transient? I know the various leagues shudder in regards to the gambling, but it would be great for the NHL to be the first to break into that market.
The local economy in Vegas has gone to hell since the real estate market crashed. I believe they are one of the top's in foreclosures (Chicago as well but Chicago is much larger Metro so it doesn't kill us)

There are only 3 viable cities for relocation in near future

QC - New arena set to be built in coming years

Kansas City - Have an amazing arena looking for NHL/NBA team. Ownership group though is not strong enough at this time IMO to bring a team

Houston - Large population , NHL caliber arena , Hockey history. Only problem is Les Alexander (Owns arena and Rockets) lost interest in bringing in NHL team after losing out on Oilers in 90's and Houston losing in last round of expansion. He would need to get back on board to bring a team there

Dont give me Hamiltion (Copps sucks and it would hurt Sabres) or Portland (Paul Allen since purchasing back the Rose Garden has shown no interest in team ,, His Pens interest IMO had more to do with his battle to get back arena)

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I would love to see hockey back in Houston.

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I would love to see hockey back in Houston.
You realize they do have hockey in Houston right now correct?

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You realize they do have hockey in Houston right now correct?

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Yea, I meant at a higher level.

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I live in Houston. I doubt the fans [or lack thereof] would support an NHL well at all. They only go to football games down here... the Astros [yeah, I know their record] are setting records for how bad their attendance has gotten.

This is the most fair weather city Ive ever lived in. Horrible horrible fanbase down here.

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I really hope that the first by product of this big news is that Tobias Enstrom quickly reveals his lack of desire to play in Winnipeg and is traded to the Rangers.

I think Seattle or Portland should get the next team, personally. I don't buy that Seattle can't support an NBA or NHL team.

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06-01-2011, 11:28 AM
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I'd be really surprised if Portland wasn't able to draw enough fans to support an NHL team. They have a history of being obsessive about the blazers AND the portland timbers (in their first year as an MLS team) have probably the best home crowd in the league.

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06-01-2011, 12:45 PM
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The local economy in Vegas has gone to hell since the real estate market crashed. I believe they are one of the top's in foreclosures (Chicago as well but Chicago is much larger Metro so it doesn't kill us)

There are only 3 viable cities for relocation in near future

QC - New arena set to be built in coming years

Kansas City - Have an amazing arena looking for NHL/NBA team. Ownership group though is not strong enough at this time IMO to bring a team

Houston - Large population , NHL caliber arena , Hockey history. Only problem is Les Alexander (Owns arena and Rockets) lost interest in bringing in NHL team after losing out on Oilers in 90's and Houston losing in last round of expansion. He would need to get back on board to bring a team there

Dont give me Hamiltion (Copps sucks and it would hurt Sabres) or Portland (Paul Allen since purchasing back the Rose Garden has shown no interest in team ,, His Pens interest IMO had more to do with his battle to get back arena)
Seattle... not sure what the arena situation is like there now. But i know that they were the front runner to get a expansion team in the 90's until Barry Ackerley screwed over the other members of the group looking to get a franchise in order to protect the Sonics.

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06-02-2011, 10:56 AM
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Just wanted to clear a few things up and add a thing or two. Atlanta's fan base wasn't the problem, they had great fans but the management had no interest in the team itself, so they made bad trades, were rude to their fans and basically drove the franchise into the ground. At one point, one of the Atlanta fans asked an ASG bigwig why prices next to the glass were $50 more than in Boston and was told by that bigwig to "deal with it." At the rally to save the Thrashers, the mascot for the Hawks showed up, adding insult to injury. I feel really bad for Atlanta fans, even though I'm getting the NHL back in my city finally.

As for Winnipeg items that were brought up, the NHL owns the Jets name, not Phoenix, so we can have that back if TNSE decides that way. Unfortunately, I don't think they are. From an emotional standpoint, I think having our Jets back is the best idea, but from a business standpoint, I can see how the revenue from a totally new set of merchandise is very tempting to the ownership group.

The rink may be small, but the ownership group owns several hotels, a casino, all the parking, the concessions, several bars and restaurants and more around the area. The MTS center is also the 11th busiest arena in North America and the 19th busiest in the world, so amazing revenue is coming in from all of that. They aren't just looking at this as a sole venture, but as a total business package when it comes to the bottom line.

They aren't going to be a cap team. Mark Chipman stated that they are going to be "middle of the pack" when it comes to the cap and that they aren't going to be aggressive at all when it comes to free agents. He stated that they are going to develop from the draft. Season tickets are being sold with the condition that you're in for multi-year renewals. The 2 tickets I'm getting have me locked in for 4 years for example. I think that they're going to count on this time to slowly grow their talent while not having to worry about fair-weather fans (not that there are a ton of those in Winnipeg!).

I absolutely can't wait for preseason! It's going to be awesome having the NHL back and that first year I'm finally going to get to see my Rangers play live for the first time! I'm always going to be a Rangers fan first, but now I'm going to be cheering for two teams, which I never though would happen! For any of you Atlanta fans out there, I'm buying an Atlanta jersey that I will wear every now and then to the games, and I promise to yell out "Knights!" during the US anthem!

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Just wanted to clear a few things up and add a thing or two. Atlanta's fan base wasn't the problem, they had great fans but the management had no interest in the team itself, so they made bad trades, were rude to their fans and basically drove the franchise into the ground. At one point, one of the Atlanta fans asked an ASG bigwig why prices next to the glass were $50 more than in Boston and was told by that bigwig to "deal with it." At the rally to save the Thrashers, the mascot for the Hawks showed up, adding insult to injury. I feel really bad for Atlanta fans, even though I'm getting the NHL back in my city finally.
That's not true. At all.

You could argue that if Atlanta fans filled the seats for Hawks games and Braves games. But they don't. Not even close, really. And those two teams have been good or are good. Atlanta is a God-awful pro sports town. They always have been. So it's nearly all on the fans. Sure, the ownership sucked, but you can't blame it all on the when the terrible fans of Atlanta don't go to games anywhere else, either. I mean, I'm sure you're trying to be nice by saying that, but it's just not true.

Hockey is going somewhere it is loved. And if it's not loved enough, it will be moved again.

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Seattle... not sure what the arena situation is like there now. But i know that they were the front runner to get a expansion team in the 90's until Barry Ackerley screwed over the other members of the group looking to get a franchise in order to protect the Sonics.
Sonics are gone after 40+ years in city ,,, So that should tell you how likely the arena is to ever get built

They wont spend a cent of public money on stadium

So Seattle is not an option for NHL

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06-03-2011, 09:34 AM
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US is done for foreseeable future. Canada is the destination. Better economy due to oil revenues, no military spending. As a result more disposable income to go to hockey.

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7,000+ season tickets sold in 3 days and they haven't even gone on sale to the general public yet, only Moose season ticket holders.

They'll get their 13,000 and it won't even take them a week.

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06-03-2011, 06:44 PM
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7,000+ season tickets sold in 3 days and they haven't even gone on sale to the general public yet, only Moose season ticket holders.

They'll get their 13,000 and it won't even take them a week.
Thats Crazy...sorry to the loyal ATL fans but at the end of the day, Atlanta who?

So glad a hockey market got a team.

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Good news, and I believe the public sale is tomorrow, have to figure they will easily hit the 13,000 number tomorrow.

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good. now bring back the whale & nords

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7,000+ season tickets sold in 3 days and they haven't even gone on sale to the general public yet, only Moose season ticket holders.

They'll get their 13,000 and it won't even take them a week.
Anyone know how many seasons tickets were sold in Atlanta last season?

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Ticket drive in Winnipeg is complete. The rest of the tickets they had to sell today were gone within minutes of them going on sale to the general public. Great showing by Winnipeg.

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The final 6,000 season tickets sold within 7 minutes today. WOW

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The final 6,000 season tickets sold within 7 minutes today. WOW
congrats to them. they deserve a team after this showing.

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