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06-02-2011, 12:49 PM
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Jackets & Flyers

no clue if im way off... revisions and input are welcome

To PHI:

8th Overall and Brassard

To CLB:

Carter and Carle

yay

or nay

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06-02-2011, 12:55 PM
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We are not trading Carter.

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Add Columbus' 1st next year , and Nash, and take Carter out of the deal.

Then we're cookin

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Add Columbus' 1st next year , and Nash, and take Carter out of the deal.

Then we're cookin
I know this is a joke but dont post stupid things like this

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wow... i know carter is real good, but i didnt expect his value to be so high. good to know. thx

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You're more than very off.

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Ovechkin, Crosby, Stamkos

Over the last three years those are the players who have scored more goals than him. If Carter is traded it will be because a team blew Homer away with an offer.

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Holmgren would need to start eating a LOT of lead, right now, to make him sufficiently crazy to pull the trigger on that deal.

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Holmgren would need to start eating a LOT of lead, right now, to make him sufficiently crazy to pull the trigger on that deal.
Or just pull the trigger on himself and accomplish both simultaneously.

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06-02-2011, 02:34 PM
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no clue if im way off... revisions and input are welcome

To PHI:

8th Overall and Brassard

To CLB:

Carter and Carle

yay

or nay
I'm not sure why Homer would do this trade.

I'd guess to make it more fair take Carle out.

to Columbus: Carter

to Philly: Brassard, 8th overall


Tell me again, why do the Flyers want Brassard? His upside is another Giroux. How many centers does Philly need?

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06-02-2011, 02:37 PM
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I'm not sure why Homer would do this trade.

I'd guess to make it more fair take Carle out.

to Columbus: Carter

to Philly: Brassard, 8th overall


Tell me again, why do the Flyers want Brassard? His upside is another Giroux. How many centers does Philly need?
I would want Johansen or Umberger over Brassard.

Voracek and 8th overall was a more reasonable proposal.

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I would want Johansen or Umberger over Brassard.

Voracek and 8th overall was a more reasonable proposal.
Voracek and the 8th for Carle and Carter?

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06-02-2011, 03:11 PM
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this doesn't make the flyers better.
also, we don't need any more centers. Brassard would be behind Richards Giroux and Briere.

it'd probably take Voracek and a 1st.


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I would want Johansen or Umberger over Brassard.

Voracek and 8th overall was a more reasonable proposal.
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this doesn't make the flyers better.
also, we don't need any more centers. Brassard would be behind Richards Giroux and Briere.

it'd probably take Voracek and a 1st.
I'm sure Columbus would rather send Voracek as well.

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06-02-2011, 04:07 PM
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whoever #8 overall will be... this guy will be lucky to be as good as Carter already is. Brassard doesn't make up for that difference if you think about Carle is also involved

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There are just too many players on the Flyers who don't make significantly less than Carter and have less value as him.

The Flyers gain $1mil more in cap space if they trade Carter and not Hartnell.
They gain $1.7mil more if they trade Carter instead of Carle.
They gain $2.2mil more if they trade Carter intead of Versteeg.

Heck, even Timonen is leaving before they think about moving Carter.

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There are just too many players on the Flyers who don't make significantly less than Carter and have less value as him.

The Flyers gain $1mil more in cap space if they trade Carter and not Hartnell.
They gain $1.7mil more if they trade Carter instead of Carle.
They gain $2.2mil more if they trade Carter intead of Versteeg.

Heck, even Timonen is leaving before they think about moving Carter.
Also people who sign 11 year deal with clubs generally don't get traded.

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06-02-2011, 05:09 PM
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Also people who sign 11 year deal with clubs generally don't get traded.
bingo.

every thread involving carter has been answered with the same thing; The flyers are not going to move carter, barring a vast overpayment.
He's on a good contract that he just signed for 11 years, and he's a very important piece of this team, regardless of what unintelligent fans and people who don't really know the game say. Homer is going to need to be blown away in order for carter to be moved.

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There are just too many players on the Flyers who don't make significantly less than Carter and have less value as him.

The Flyers gain $1mil more in cap space if they trade Carter and not Hartnell.
They gain $1.7mil more if they trade Carter instead of Carle.
They gain $2.2mil more if they trade Carter intead of Versteeg.

Heck, even Timonen is leaving before they think about moving Carter.
Would Timonen be available, and what would it take?

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Or just pull the trigger on himself and accomplish both simultaneously.

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Would Timonen be available, and what would it take?
Got to think he's worth more to the Flyers than he would be to anyone else. The Flyers can't realistically get his value to them back in a trade and there's no point to trading someone if you are get enough value back. Unless its a salary dump, in which case there are other salaries that are more in need of dumping.

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Got to think he's worth more to the Flyers than he would be to anyone else. The Flyers can't realistically get his value to them back in a trade and there's no point to trading someone if you are get enough value back. Unless its a salary dump, in which case there are other salaries that are more in need of dumping.
I know, I've heard that before. I just keep asking now and again in the vain hope that the answer has changed.

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Add Columbus' 1st next year , and Nash, and take Carter out of the deal.

Then we're cookin
Right because that's productive.

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I know, I've heard that before. I just keep asking now and again in the vain hope that the answer has changed.
Odd, I rarely see anyone inquire about him. I always kind of thought you had to be a Flyers fan to see what he brings to the team. The general argument is "he is overpaid and not needed", sadly even by a few delusional Flyer fans.

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The original trade just doesn't make any sense for the Flyers to even think about. Why would you trade Carter if you are looking to get back a 3 million dollar center? Wouldn't you just keep Carter if that were the case, and look elsewhere on your roster to dump salary?

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