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06-04-2011, 09:24 PM
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Rangers always show up in free agency with no money and ALWAYS manage to sign the biggest names

...and 2-3 years later they try and dump thiose big names to free up money again(Drury Gomez Redden Rozival and now Gaborik).

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06-05-2011, 10:57 AM
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The rangers and LA are gonna have a tough time fitting Richards in because of there cap situation. If we can find someone for Gomez we could slide Richards in with Gomez salary. Would Winnipeg do a Gomez - Pouliot for Antropov.

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06-05-2011, 12:28 PM
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The rangers and LA are gonna have a tough time fitting Richards in because of there cap situation. If we can find someone for Gomez we could slide Richards in with Gomez salary. Would Winnipeg do a Gomez - Pouliot for Antropov.
No team would take on Gomez when they could sign Richards for the same price...

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06-05-2011, 12:31 PM
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No team would take on Gomez when they could sign Richards for the same price...
Richards might not want to sign there. Of course, Winnipeg is likely on Gomez's short NTC list.

I still don't get why overpaying Richards for 7 years is better than overpaying Gomez for 3. It's not like the Richards overpayment is going to be less, especially near the end of his contract.

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06-05-2011, 12:35 PM
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People always go haywire when the Rangers sign guys, but more often than not their big off-season acquisitions end up standing as a cautionary example that shows the merit of prudence in signing UFA's.
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Guy got Gretzky once and he has been living off of that for 30 yrs.

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06-05-2011, 01:10 PM
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Guy got Gretzky once and he has been living off of that for 30 yrs.
The thing is Sather wasn't the GM yet, and the Oilers got Gretzky in a lucky break as the Indianapolis Racers were losing money and wanted to trade him to Winnipeg, but the Jets ownder wouldn't "Gamble" with the Racers owner. The owner of the Racers wanted to play backgammon and if he lost he would give him Gretzky, but if he won he would get a part of the Jets ownership.

The rest is history, and Sather has had no responsibilty in finding gems Gretzky or Messier.

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06-05-2011, 01:35 PM
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No team would take on Gomez when they could sign Richards for the same price...
but if we are taking Antropov off their hands and adding Pouliot which will make up for Antropov lost production. Antropov didn t have a very good year last year. Winnipeg may go for it. They do need a center and picking is slim

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06-05-2011, 02:27 PM
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Winnipeg needs....
Wow, seeing Winnipeg in a trade proposal is so weird...

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06-05-2011, 02:31 PM
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Winnipeg needs a centerman - would they do a Gomez- Pouliot for Antropov
NO because while antropov is overpaid he isn't as overpaid as gomez

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06-05-2011, 02:34 PM
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but if we are taking Antropov off their hands and adding Pouliot which will make up for Antropov lost production. Antropov didn t have a very good year last year. Winnipeg may go for it. They do need a center and picking is slim

hummm and Gomez had 38 ******* points

Antropov at 4M >Gomez at 7M

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06-05-2011, 04:12 PM
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hummm and Gomez had 38 ******* points

Antropov at 4M >Gomez at 7M
they may not be able to attract Richards to Winnipeg. But if they have Gomez in Winnipeg, he may help to attract other free agents to Winnipeg ( if the stories about Gomez attracting FA to Montreal is to be believed)

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06-05-2011, 04:46 PM
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they may not be able to attract Richards to Winnipeg. But if they have Gomez in Winnipeg, he may help to attract other free agents to Winnipeg ( if the stories about Gomez attracting FA to Montreal is to be believed)
if they have Gomez in Winnipeg they have the worst or 2nd worst depending on if you have redden ot gomez being worse contract in winnipeg

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06-05-2011, 07:11 PM
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No team would take on Gomez when they could sign Richards for the same price...
Only Montreal would ... and did.

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06-05-2011, 11:25 PM
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This Brad Richards information is courtesy of the Toronto Star.
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Richards agent also said, "He’s certainly not against playing for a premier Canadian city"
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Brad Richards agent says he's not waiving his NTC and wants to wait until July 1st and listen to all teams offers.

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06-06-2011, 12:38 AM
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Do we really need 8 pages to come to the obvious conclusion that there is no way Richards could sign here?

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06-06-2011, 12:54 AM
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Do we really need 8 pages to come to the obvious conclusion that there is no way Richards could sign here?
Dude, read all the posts. Everyone knows it's practically impossible to get Richards.

We just like imagine him on our team because it's fun.

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06-06-2011, 07:51 AM
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Richards might not want to sign there. Of course, Winnipeg is likely on Gomez's short NTC list.

I still don't get why overpaying Richards for 7 years is better than overpaying Gomez for 3. It's not like the Richards overpayment is going to be less, especially near the end of his contract.
Maybe because Richards and Gomez are not even remotely comparable. That being said, management can't afford to risk losing Gomez for nothing and then not be able to sign Richards either.

This has about 0.00000001% chance of happening. If we had Paul Holmgren or someone else as GM, but I don't see PG taking this big a risk and I don't really blame him, even though I still think Gomez is quite easily replaceable, if he returns to 55-60 points he's more than acceptable on the 2nd line.

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06-06-2011, 07:52 AM
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There are options for Gomez. Wether PG can pull it off we shall see.

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06-06-2011, 09:12 AM
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Maybe because Richards and Gomez are not even remotely comparable.
They are comparable in at least two ways: they are two of the few tough-minutes top-6 centers conceivably available to the Habs, and both will be on long-term overpayment contracts next year.

Richards is better, but he's also going to want at least five years, quite possibly more, and for more money than Gomez.

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06-06-2011, 09:20 AM
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only way gomez gets traded is if PG has Richards in his back pocket, something like the Wiz trade where the trade is done and the next day it was announced that Gorges was done for the year.

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06-06-2011, 09:24 AM
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only way gomez gets traded is if PG has Richards in his back pocket
If he gets a *really* good deal and has faith in Eller making the transition to 2nd-line center within the year, PG might jump the gun without a set Gomez replacement. But I doubt it.

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06-06-2011, 09:30 AM
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If he gets a *really* good deal and has faith in Eller making the transition to 2nd-line center within the year, PG might jump the gun without a set Gomez replacement. But I doubt it.
Would it be possible to sign Richards and then see what can be done with Gomez? Because I think we can be over the cap during offseason.

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06-06-2011, 09:42 AM
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ya you could do that, you can be over the cap by 10 % which would amount about to Gomez salary.

Isn t the Rangers and Habs in the same situation as far as Richards, both need to deal with moving a player ( Drury and Gomez) if they want to sign Richards. Both make about the same thou Drury only has 1 year left and can be bought out. Gomez contract after next year is cap friendly to a budget team. IMO Gomez is the better player.

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06-06-2011, 09:49 AM
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ya you could do that, you can be over the cap by 10 % which would amount about to Gomez salary.

Isn t the Rangers and Habs in the same situation as far as Richards, both need to deal with moving a player ( Drury and Gomez) if they want to sign Richards. Both make about the same thou Drury only has 1 year left and can be bought out. Gomez contract after next year is cap friendly to a budget team. IMO Gomez is the better player.
The Rangers could trade us Drury for some of our prospects?

Seriously thanks for the 10% rule. I didn't know that.

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06-06-2011, 09:55 AM
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The Rangers could trade us Drury for some of our prospects?

Seriously thanks for the 10% rule. I didn't know that.

NP, you just need to be under the cap come October.

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