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06-07-2011, 07:05 PM
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Losing Carter, but signing Bryzgalov would definitely be H-U-G-E for Philly. And possibly Carter to Toronto? More reasons for us to get going with some signings and improve this team ASAP. That's bad news guys!
The problem with Carter is that he isn't the type of player who raises his game in the playoffs ... take away the one year he had 11 points in 17 playoffs games and he has 10 points in 29 games .. that is horrible.

I will never forget the documentary about the meetings to decide who was on team Canada and they came down to Carter vs Richards discussion at one point and his own coach said that if the pressure was on, he wouldn't want to depend on Carter ... at the time I was shocked his own coach said this, lol.

Helluva player, but get ready for him to be a completely different guy come playoff time.

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06-07-2011, 07:07 PM
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The problem with Carter is that he isn't the type of player who raises his game in the playoffs ... take away the one year he had 11 points in 17 playoffs games and he has 10 points in 29 games .. that is horrible.

I will never forget the documentary about the meetings to decide who was on team Canada and they came down to Carter vs Richards discussion at one point and his own coach said that if the pressure was on, he wouldn't want to depend on Carter ... at the time I was shocked his own coach said this, lol.

Helluva player, but get ready for him to be a completely different guy come playoff time.
Still, the things I'd do to get a guy like that to screen goalies for us. Malone too.

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Bryzgalov wants to be paid as a top player...not just a top goalie. Demands too rich for Yotes.

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Bryzgalov wants to be paid as a top player...not just a top goalie. Demands too rich for Yotes.
Lets hope his salary demands take a bite out of philly's forward core. Toronto should have gone after him and sold their three headed young goalie monster for picks.

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06-07-2011, 07:14 PM
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Bryzgalov wants to be paid as a top player...not just a top goalie. Demands too rich for Yotes.
To sign Bryzgalov there gonna have to let a big piece go which offset that somewhat. Pronger is not getting younger, his injury problem could be just starting. There not the same team without him.

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06-07-2011, 07:16 PM
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Lets hope his salary demands take a bite out of philly's forward core. Toronto should have gone after him and sold their three headed young goalie monster for picks.
Well they already have something like $57 million committed for next year without Ilya and that still leaves them 4 RFAs and 4 UFAs on the roster, including Zherdev, Leino, O'Donnell and Boynton ...

They will have to trade somebody with a big salary, like Carter for example

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06-07-2011, 07:17 PM
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You gotta admit though HomaridII, he is one heck of a player that Toronto would want or any team as a matter of fact. I loved the guy back then when he was in the Juniors and you say it yourself he's like one or two players away from cracking the Team Canada line-up. Joe Thornton also chocked came playoff time, look at how long it took him to finally have a good run. Thanks for the info on his own coach stating such things haha! Never heard of that before!

Question for you HomaridII and be objective. Plekanec or Carter as our first line center?

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06-07-2011, 07:23 PM
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You gotta admit though HomaridII, he is one heck of a player that Toronto would want or any team as a matter of fact. I loved the guy back then when he was in the Juniors and you say it yourself he's like one or two players away from cracking the Team Canada line-up. Joe Thornton also chocked came playoff time, look at how long it took him to finally have a good run. Thanks for the info on his own coach stating such things haha! Never heard of that before!

Question for you HomaridII and be objective. Plekanec or Carter as our first line center?
I do agree he is a hell of a player that anybody would want on their team .. if I was Burke I would be going after him hard.

As far as your question, I think Plekanec is one of the most underrated players in the league, his overall game is awesome and he has like every Montreal player, been playing a defense first system for years. Having said that, I would pick Carter as the no.1 Center, 35-40 goals, size ... etc.. yeah, he would be my no.1

Just saying .. look at his playoff record and its not really impressive, just keep that in mind .. Plekanec has 8 more pts for example than Carter in the same # of playoff games played.

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Just to take that a little further .. Carter is a +51 career regular season, -14 in his playoff career

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06-07-2011, 07:31 PM
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With Bryzgalov gone, Phoenix may go in a complete re build. What are the chances of getting Doan outta Phoenix. He is Carey s cousin. We got prospects and some cheap NHL players.

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I do agree he is a hell of a player that anybody would want on their team .. if I was Burke I would be going after him hard.

As far as your question, I think Plekanec is one of the most underrated players in the league, his overall game is awesome and he has like every Montreal player, been playing a defense first system for years. Having said that, I would pick Carter as the no.1 Center, 35-40 goals, size ... etc.. yeah, he would be my no.1

Just saying .. look at his playoff record and its not really impressive, just keep that in mind .. Plekanec has 8 more pts for example than Carter in the same # of playoff games played.
Carter uses his size like Penner does; in front of the net and in the corners, but doesn't use it to punish players.

Also, the flyers can just deal Hartnell instead.

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06-07-2011, 07:33 PM
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Yup did have a look at his playoff stats and you're absolutely right. And I don't need to add anything to your Plekanec comment, I 100% agree with you. He's been in our organization from the get-go and I hope he stays here the entire time. On the other hand, I hope Carter lands in the West somewhere, like Edmonton for example.
Time for Game 4 NBA playoffs! Go Mavs!

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06-07-2011, 07:37 PM
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Carter uses his size like Penner does; in front of the net and in the corners, but doesn't use it to punish players.

Also, the flyers can just deal Hartnell instead.
Hartnell will be harder to move. Very undisciplined and doesn t he have a NTC

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Hartnell will be harder to move. Very undisciplined and doesn t he have a NTC
Yup and it's a full NTC, too.

Hartnell, hits, fights, scores. Carter just scores. More than Hartnell obviously, but still.

If Carter is going to be dealt it will be out West unfortunately. I'd love him on the habs. As I'm sure all of you would, too.

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I'd love him too with the habs, but chances are slim if not none, so out West is actually pretty good.

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If Carter is going to be dealt it will be out West unfortunately. I'd love him on the habs. As I'm sure all of you would, too.
I'd love Carter the player, but not the contract.

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I'd love Carter the player, but not the contract.
It's long, granted, but he does score 30 goals a year.

If we somehow acquired him, throw him with Gio and Gomez. Gomes is bound to look great again, no ?

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I have Flyers at roughly $5-milion over the cap if they give Bryzgalov a deal in $6.25-million range and re-sign Leino. Someone has to move.

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It's long, granted, but he does score 30 goals a year.

If we somehow acquired him, throw him with Gio and Gomez. Gomes is bound to look great again, no ?
For sure, for a few seasons that would be great! I'd just be worried about when Carter hits 32 years old and still has 5 years left on that contract.

Richards, on the other hand, I'd be very interested in.

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Yup and it's a full NTC, too.

Hartnell, hits, fights, scores. Carter just scores. More than Hartnell obviously, but still.
The fact he has 2 years left on his deal is making him feel attractive to the Habs for me, doubt they want him, doubt he wants to come here, but he would obviously bring an element sorely lacking at the same production rate as Kostitsyn.

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I have Flyers at roughly $5-milion over the cap if they give Bryzgalov a deal in $6.25-million range and re-sign Leino. Someone has to move.
I don't think the flyers have any plans on re-signing Leino.

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For sure, for a few seasons that would be great! I'd just be worried about when Carter hits 32 years old and still has 5 years left on that contract.

Richards, on the other hand, I'd be very interested in.
Same here, but he's their captain and pretty much embodies what the flyers are. Also, at 32 Carter would be in his prime. Around 34- 35 is when you worry.

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The fact he has 2 years left on his deal is making him feel attractive to the Habs for me, doubt they want him, doubt he wants to come here, but he would obviously bring an element sorely lacking at the same production rate as Kostitsyn.
Pretty much. I think this team might have something against being physical.

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Reading Hartnell's wikipedia page is hilarious. I forgot about that time he threw at Malone on the breakaway lol.

Scott Hartnell

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**** Hartnell is slow but he's exactly what the Habs need.

I would trade Eller for Carter. Problem is finding a suitor for Gomez. But Carter/Plekanec as a 1-2 punch would be fantastic.

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just heard a report from a cbc Vancouver radio reporter in Boston for the series. He said (and I'm paraphrasing here) that Vancouver fans would wise not to wear their jersies to the game tomorrow of they value their lives. Apparently Boston fans get quite irate and "intimidating" after one of their players receives some of their own particular medicine.
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I have Flyers at roughly $5-milion over the cap if they give Bryzgalov a deal in $6.25-million range and re-sign Leino. Someone has to move.
Jeff Carter is the odd man out, lots of people are saying he will be moved to the Jackets if the Flyers can agree with Bryzgalov. I expect a nice couple of deals on draft evening

As for Bryzgalov, can't believe it took the Flyers 20 years to finally go get a solid goalie(if he signs) will be that much harder to beat them now

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