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06-07-2011, 08:40 PM
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OTT acquiring Top 5 pick while keeping #6

What would it take for OTT to acquire one of the top 5 picks in this year's draft? The goal is to do so without losing key players on the current roster and keeping our #6 draft pick. Blue chip prospects Cowen and Rundblad are also off limit.

So what's left you say? Well most of our current roster, most of the Binghamton Senators and the following draft picks:

- Pick #21 (1st round)
- Pick #35 (2nd round)
- Pick #48 (2nd round)
- Pick #59 (2nd round)
- Pick #65 (3rd round)

I think there's a pool of promising prospects and an abundance of picks to perhaps entice a team to trade away their top 5 pick to us... is there enough worthy assets here to get a deal done?

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06-07-2011, 08:42 PM
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So, you want a top 5 pick while giving up nothing of value ? Or quantity of ok-good players /picks ?

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No... Need high pick, quality prospects, or key players... You don't get something for nothing.

Thanks for giving the most blatant example of a lot of my junk for your key assets proposal.

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Cowen + 35th overall might take you into top five.

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Jason Spezza and Jared Cowen+ are the only way you will realistically get into the top-5.

EDIT: How could I forget Karlsson? LOL.

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What would it take for OTT to acquire one of the top 5 picks in this year's draft? The goal is to do so without losing key players on the current roster and keeping our #6 draft pick. Blue chip prospects Cowen and Rundblad are also off limit.

So what's left you say? Well most of our current roster, most of the Binghamton Senators and the following draft picks:

- Pick #21 (1st round)
- Pick #35 (2nd round)
- Pick #48 (2nd round)
- Pick #59 (2nd round)
- Pick #65 (3rd round)

I think there's a pool of promising prospects and an abundance of picks to perhaps entice a team to trade away their top 5 pick to us... is there enough worthy assets here to get a deal done?
No Cowen or Rundblad? Spezza and Karlsson presumably off-limits? Would you trade the sixth pick without getting Hall/Eberle/MPS/Hemsky in return?

Another trash-for-treasure proposal.

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What would it take for OTT to acquire one of the top 5 picks in this year's draft? The goal is to do so without losing key players on the current roster and keeping our #6 draft pick. Blue chip prospects Cowen and Rundblad are also off limit.

So what's left you say? Well most of our current roster, most of the Binghamton Senators and the following draft picks:

- Pick #21 (1st round)
- Pick #35 (2nd round)
- Pick #48 (2nd round)
- Pick #59 (2nd round)
- Pick #65 (3rd round)

I think there's a pool of promising prospects and an abundance of picks to perhaps entice a team to trade away their top 5 pick to us... is there enough worthy assets here to get a deal done?
We won't talk about Edmonton, Colorado, and Florida as they won't be trading their picks. New Jersey's top needs are a PMD and a top 6 center. The only two defense-men that would fill this would be Karlsson or maybe Rundblad. The only legitimate center would be Spezza and he is not getting traded. This means that New Jersey is out of the question as none of their needs would be filled.
Moving on to the Islanders, they also need defense and centers.

You simply can't get a top 5 pick and not give anything back in return of similar quality, it is just illogical.

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Cowen + 35th overall might take you into top five.
Thanks for making a fair proposal. Even though I listed Cowen as being off limit, I do realize that we could probably afford to let one of our highly prized D prospect go if it helps beef up our top 6 forward positions.

I would probably do that trade. Glad to see some people can actually see the valuable pieces we do have to offer.

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Two 6ths should get it done.

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#21, #35, Lehner, Riegan

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Jason Spezza and Jared Cowen+ are the only way you will realistically get into the top-5.

EDIT: How could I forget Karlsson? LOL.
are you on crack...

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EDIT: How could I forget Karlsson? LOL.
You were probably in the defensive end.

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No Cowen or Rundblad? Spezza and Karlsson presumably off-limits? Would you trade the sixth pick without getting Hall/Eberle/MPS/Hemsky in return?

Another trash-for-treasure proposal.
If you have the assets to offer me another 1st round pick, three 3rd round picks and perhaps a couple of farm team leading scorers, I'll definitely listen. Now if you do have all these assets, then make your offer for our 6th pick... I'll listen before calling your assets trash.

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So, you want a top 5 pick while giving up nothing of value ? Or quantity of ok-good players /picks ?
yeah that was my reaction

the OP wants to trade late round picks for a top 5 pick

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#21, #35, Lehner, Riegan
I'd do that trade.

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I'd do that trade.
Not after the beast of a playoffs Lehner's just had. A 5th overall pick is nice, but not worth giving up that many assets for.

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OTT 1st in 2012 + Wiercoch (sp?) could get it done, if a team is willing to bet on the Sens sucking next year

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OTT 1st in 2012 + Wiercoch (sp?) could get it done, if a team is willing to bet on the Sens sucking next year
Considering it's likely, and next years draft is looking really good, I wouldn't do that.

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We won't talk about Edmonton, Colorado, and Florida as they won't be trading their picks.
Never write off the Panthers trading away a lottery pick.

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Considering it's likely, and next years draft is looking really good, I wouldn't do that.
for good reason. The Sens are definitely trending to a re-build, and the 2012 draft looks really good. it would be more wise to keep what the Sens have and let things play themselves out. but the OP wanted a top 5 pick this year for nothing on the roster or Ottawa's top prospects, so thats the only way i could see it getting done

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Not after the beast of a playoffs Lehner's just had. A 5th overall pick is nice, but not worth giving up that many assets for.
Given that Anderson is signed long term, I think Lehner is expandable if it helps fill holes immediately in our top 6.

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Given that Anderson is signed long term, I think Lehner is expandable if it helps fill holes immediately in our top 6.
Anderson is signed for 4 years. It's obvious that management plans on Lehner replacing him. One/Two years as the starter for Bingo, 1 year as the backup and then full time starter by the 4th year.

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Thanks for making a fair proposal. Even though I listed Cowen as being off limit, I do realize that we could probably afford to let one of our highly prized D prospect go if it helps beef up our top 6 forward positions.

I would probably do that trade. Glad to see some people can actually see the valuable pieces we do have to offer.
You specifically said the 6th pick, blue-chip prospects such as Cowen and Rundblad, and key roster players were off-limits.

No high pick, not quality NHLer, and no blue chip prosepct. You're wondering why people are having trouble seeing valuable pieces available?

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If you have the assets to offer me another 1st round pick, three 3rd round picks and perhaps a couple of farm team leading scorers, I'll definitely listen. Now if you do have all these assets, then make your offer for our 6th pick... I'll listen before calling your assets trash.
With the #5 pick, you can be pretty sure of grabbing a prospect with significant upside and (relatively) little risk at a position of your choice, who will most likely end up your team's best prospect at some point with a very good shot at being a "key" roster player sometime beyond that.

You then promptly go on to list your team's top two prospects, all your "key" roster players, and the only pick you have where a team is likely to nab an equivalent prospect to the one they are giving up as being off limits.

Do you see why no team would do this?

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