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06-08-2011, 11:15 PM
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couldn't disagree more. He showed a lot of heart this year and was not lazy. Is cammy lazy cuz he conserves energy so that he can intercept a pass and go to the right places? The last sentence. A little harsh.
Agreed. The dislike for Pouliot is often blown out of proportion.

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Sorry for the harshness, but despite all the excellent top tier tools he has, Pouliot lacks balls. He'd need his father ... who's dead. He's a mama's boy, as we've seen in the RDS people's magazine special with Miss Withensaw. The only advice I can tell him is to watch Scarface while he trains all summer (heck, I'd ask Ian Laperierre to mentor him). He's a nice kid that needs to learn to be meaner in the NHL aka in life. Grow a beard or something Benny and proove us all wrong. You had a good run with Gomez and Gio two years ago. Get a meaner mentally and listen to that song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhQ7...eature=related

About Pouliot's heart and Fish on the Sand. Let me remind you that the problem with Pouliot are his dumb offensive zone penalties. A lot more than lack of backchecking and hooking.


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06-09-2011, 01:03 AM
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There is a difference between playing smart and being lazy. Pouliot is lazy. He's too lazy to backcheck so he hooks or trips the guy down and puts the team at a disadvantage. He has all the physical tools to succeed, so the ONLY thing stopping from succeeding is his lack of heart and lazy attitude. It sickens me to the core knowing there are guys like Saku Koivu out there who wear their heart on their sleeve and make things happen despite obvious physical limitations, and then you see Pouliot with every advantage a player could ever ask for looking like he's in a wheelchair on the ice.
Your hyperbole is oozing out of every orifice.

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06-09-2011, 01:11 AM
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Your hyperbole is oozing out of every orifice.
If I'm guilty of anything its understatement.

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me too, i like the poor guy and i want him back, but the difference between him and ak is that has learned to not be a ****** in the offensive zone and to be reasonably good defensively.

pouliot hasn't. he will never get a proper shot at a top 6 as long as he keeps playing like ****. you just don't put defensive liabilities on the ice unless they can pot 30+ goals each season.

that said, he will learn, he's young and i have faith that he can at least become another ak: a solid 2nd/3rd line winger with top 3 upside that can pot 20-30 goals each season.

but that is IF he can get his **** together.

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06-09-2011, 01:15 AM
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He is lazy, selfish and is simply only in hockey to collect a paycheck. A disgrace to everybody who has ever played the game with pride.
hyperbolic much?

daigle was in it for the paycheck, not him. i don't believe he is lazy, i believe he is, at time, extremely stupid.

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06-09-2011, 03:34 AM
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hyperbolic much?

daigle was in it for the paycheck, not him. i don't believe he is lazy, i believe he is, at time, extremely stupid.
Daigle in his worst season was better than anything we have seen from Pouliot.

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Daigle in his worst season was better than anything we have seen from Pouliot.
ok...

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Mahn if Pouliot doesn't get it together but Latendresse notches big numbers in Minny next season this place will go nuts.

hope that does not happen -- Go Benoit!

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Career wise? Flop. He could've been so much better.
As a Hab? Misunderstood, he's been rather effective since showing up here. Not 4th overall former bluechip prospect effective, but still solid.

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Career wise? Flop. He could've been so much better.
As a Hab? Misunderstood, he's been rather effective since showing up here. Not 4th overall former bluechip prospect effective, but still solid.
Err, Jeffler, welcome and respect, but isn't a bit early to judge 'career'? Still I like you say 'here' part of the family I guess I'm a lot further from Montréal than you but I also use such language, cheers JLP

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Someone should tell Pouliot about these great inventions.

This new age weight lifting technique called the squat.
These new age balance devices: Stability Balls, Bosu Balls, Balance Boards.

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If I'm guilty of anything its understatement.
If that's understatement, you sure fooled me. You don't seem to be moderate in your opinions, so why did you understate? I'm curious to hear the unspoken parts, or are you having second thoughts about being taken for a total loon on this forum?

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06-09-2011, 12:15 PM
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I think Pouliot has all the tools to be a solid NHL player, he just doesn't have the desire. He's a big guy with a wicked shot that can score goals, but his skating is weak, he can't stand up and he doesn't give it everything he can as often as he should. He needs to get into better shape and become a better skater before he's going to make strides in the NHL....if he stays the way he is, he'll be in the AHL in no time.

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06-09-2011, 08:24 PM
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Err, Jeffler, welcome and respect, but isn't a bit early to judge 'career'? Still I like you say 'here' part of the family I guess I'm a lot further from Montréal than you but I also use such language, cheers JLP
Not a bit early at all. 4th overall picks tend to show significant stride by this age, he's a flop at this stage of his career no doubt compared to the expectations. He could still rebound...but at the moment, I'd go with flop.

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06-09-2011, 09:06 PM
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Very high expectations, the big stud francophone(franco ontarian) who can skate, shoot, hit and fight....What is realistic to expect from him at this stage? Only 14 goals!! The Sedins sisters were being run out of Vancover a couple of years ago. We should be patient. the guy obviously has confidence issues. Lets turn it down a couple of degrees....

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Flop.

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If that's understatement, you sure fooled me. You don't seem to be moderate in your opinions, so why did you understate? I'm curious to hear the unspoken parts, or are you having second thoughts about being taken for a total loon on this forum?
There are many things that can, and should be said about Benoit Pouliot, but I choose to hold them back.

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Someone should tell Pouliot about these great inventions.

This new age weight lifting technique called the squat.
These new age balance devices: Stability Balls, Bosu Balls, Balance Boards.
Catching medicine balls without losing your balance.Falling all over the ice when nobody touches you looks stupid,this is good to remember when on TV playing and they have replays to show everyone there!Grow a pair buddy!

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hes not a flop, the expectations are just too high, since he was drafted 4th overall, he's a run of the mill nhl player the kind of guy every team has 3 or 4 of. he's got great tools but doesnt have a clue how to put it all together, like a lesser version of Kostitsyn

Every team has players like that big strong good tools, but they just dont have the drive to put it all together

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Wow, you guys are being hard on Benny. I did not check but I bet some of you are praising the AK singing at the same time. Benny put up 30 points playing 3rd line minutes and not being allowed on the ice in the later stages of games. He also put up 4 game winners. I was hoping he would get 40 points this year but he did not get enough PP time. Balance will improve, as will his overall hockey sense. We should extend the same patience and courtesy that has been shown AK in all fairness. I agree he may require a mentor but it needs to be someone a vet from the top two lines, not a bottom six guy.
P.S Pouliot has never been a prolific scorer.

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06-10-2011, 09:01 AM
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He's terrible.

And you can just tell Jacques despises his style of play even more than his biggest haters on this board so I'll be absolutely stunned if he's brought back.

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While they are very different players, the hate-on for Pouliot right now very much reminds me of the hate-on for Andrei last off-season. And that worked out ok.

To me, Pouliot's biggest problem is himself. He worries about everything, doesn't have the confidence, etc. Those kind of problems go away with experience and age. I don't think the cost here is very high, so it is probably worth the gamble to keep him around. Its not like he had an awful overall season, and plenty of young players have had rough half-seasons before going on to a good career. I see no reason to give up on him, unless his salary demands are unrealistic.

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The message was clear during the playoffs. Pouliot is no longer part of this team.

He's gonna be traded for some pick (no better than a 2nd or 3rd).

What about Steve Bernier ? Florida just let him become UFA this week. He would not look bad on a 3rd line and he is a naturalo right shooter.

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While they are very different players, the hate-on for Pouliot right now very much reminds me of the hate-on for Andrei last off-season. And that worked out ok.

To me, Pouliot's biggest problem is himself. He worries about everything, doesn't have the confidence, etc. Those kind of problems go away with experience and age. I don't think the cost here is very high, so it is probably worth the gamble to keep him around. Its not like he had an awful overall season, and plenty of young players have had rough half-seasons before going on to a good career. I see no reason to give up on him, unless his salary demands are unrealistic.
At the end of the day this isn't preschool, NHL teams want wins and production, noyt have to babysit guys that lose their confidence every two weeks. Pouliot in order to be effective has to skate, drive the net and use his frame more. He won't make it as a checker or banger, so he has to play much like Pacioretty did last year...move his feet and a simpler game.

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