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06-09-2011, 07:17 AM
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2 1sts
Tinordi
Weber
Leblanc
He ain't going nowhere, a 6'1 hard-working right handed super talented hometown center is kind of what we've been looking for the last 10, 15 years. Couturier and Leblanc were really good together in the WJC camp, those 2 would be legends with the Habs one day.

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06-09-2011, 07:18 AM
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So, if your PG...what do you possibly offer as we need a building piece at forward to go with Price in net and Subban at D.

Our 1st, a solid top line player and a top prospect or our 1st next year has to go...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=368297
Tambellini said the same thing last year...I'm sure it would take an overpayment to trade it. Given that there are no superstars in this year's draft it's not worth it. He'd probably want Subban plus our 1st.

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06-09-2011, 07:20 AM
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I'd try:

Ryder
Halak
1st and I'd throw in a second rounder too because I'm nice

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06-09-2011, 07:42 AM
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If you read the article right, he's actually saying he won't be trading the pick.

"Oh yeah, we're listening to offer, but it would take an offer so ridiculously good that you can't say no."

This is the definition of non-news....

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06-09-2011, 08:36 AM
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1st 2011
1st2012
Eller
Weber

for

Sean Couturier




I would do it anyday.....
It's a bit much for him, don't you think ?

I would love Couturier... he's exactly what we need. But 2 first rounders + Eller ?

This year first + Eller + Weber should be enough.

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06-09-2011, 08:45 AM
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It's a bit much for him, don't you think ?

I would love Couturier... he's exactly what we need. But 2 first rounders + Eller ?

This year first + Eller + Weber should be enough.
As much as I like Couturier, from what scouts are saying this year, I'm not even sure I'd trade eller, Weber plus a 1st. Couturier is close to a can't miss, but Eller has already shown flashes of top 6 ability plus has size, Weber has a good chance at being a 20 minute PDM and force on the PP plus with this being a deep draft, we should get a very good at asset #17(McNeil Bartschi Scheifele Beaulieu Klefblom).

IMHO that would be a bad trade for the Habs long term.

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06-09-2011, 08:47 AM
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No deal not involving Subban or Price would ever be considered.

It's a 1st overall. Not #5, #1. It costs ridiculously high to get, and basically their GM says 'I won't trade it unless you force me to'.

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06-09-2011, 08:50 AM
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The reason the cost of 1st overall is high is that a 1st overall can win you a stanley cup finals or close enough:

Crosby
Ovechkin
Tavares
Kane
Stamkos
etc.

Anyone of those guys would be worth:
1st rounder 2011
Lars Eller
Mike Cammalleri

or whatever.

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06-09-2011, 08:55 AM
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The reason the cost of 1st overall is high is that a 1st overall can win you a stanley cup finals or close enough:

Crosby
Ovechkin
Tavares
Kane
Stamkos
etc.

Anyone of those guys would be worth:
1st rounder 2011
Lars Eller
Mike Cammalleri

or whatever.
Any1 of those is worth quite more than that actually. Again, you don't trade for super-star talent without giving up super-star talent yourself, and the only thing we have close to it is Price and Subban, and since the goalie market is not that great you would have to give up Subban.

Something like 1st + Subban + Eller/Pacioretty + Plekanec/Cammalleri might land you one, but only in cases where the team HAS to get rid of him because he asked out or something. If they can afford to be greedy, we simply couldn't. You have to draft these kind of players, not trade for them, only time where trades happen is because the team just cannot resign them or have to trade them for whatever reason.

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06-09-2011, 09:00 AM
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I wouldn't even waste any time on the notion of trading up to the #1 pick. Will never happen (and shouldn't).

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Any1 of those is worth quite more than that actually. Again, you don't trade for super-star talent without giving up super-star talent yourself, and the only thing we have close to it is Price and Subban, and since the goalie market is not that great you would have to give up Subban.

Something like 1st + Subban + Eller/Pacioretty + Plekanec/Cammalleri might land you one, but only in cases where the team HAS to get rid of him because he asked out or something. If they can afford to be greedy, we simply couldn't. You have to draft these kind of players, not trade for them, only time where trades happen is because the team just cannot resign them or have to trade them for whatever reason.
That's the pseudo-realist's misconception.

Thornton, Richards, Heatlhy

None of them were traded for superstar talent.

Now I understand that those three situations differ from a 1st round pick, just saying, that rule of yours is so not set in stone. it's a league that goes on need, not pragmatic full value for every asset.

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06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
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Remember, sometimes the first overall pick gets you Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin, and sometimes you get Patrik Stefan or Roman Hamrlik.

Draft picks are bags of magic beans. They're important to have, but they work best in volume. Don't overvalue their importance over players already at the NHL level, especially young NHLers.

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06-09-2011, 09:52 AM
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Do not want the 1st overall....The price will be to high.

That said , if Couturier fall to 5th-6th overall ( RHN ,Larsson,Huberdeau,Landeskog,Hamliton ) , I would love to see PG make a push.
Agreed. That's what I would like to see. But the price would be steep too.

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06-09-2011, 10:09 AM
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Really, I don't think we have the assets Tambellini would be looking at, or if we do, Gauthier isn't think of dealing them : Young potential player with high potential (Subban) or established roster player (Cammy, Price...), plus some picks if needed. I think Tambellini is more looking to drop 2nd or 3rd overall to acquire a 2nd rounder at least, or another 1st round pick.

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He ain't going nowhere, a 6'1 hard-working right handed super talented hometown center is kind of what we've been looking for the last 10, 15 years. Couturier and Leblanc were really good together in the WJC camp, those 2 would be legends with the Habs one day.
Couturier isn't going 1st overall, so we don't need the Olier's pick.

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06-09-2011, 10:32 AM
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It would have to be something like:

1st, Leblanc, Kristo, Desharnais+

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It would have to be something like:

1st, Leblanc, Kristo, Desharnais+
Done.

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06-09-2011, 10:48 AM
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There's no way we work out a trade for the first pick, doubt we even try to.

Think of teams like St Louis, Columbus and LA they have many assets without hurting their current team and can pull such trades.

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Gomez, Weber and a 2nd?

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Since when are we rebuilding? I'd rather give up nothing and draft 17th...

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06-09-2011, 10:56 AM
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Done.
Maybe you didn't notice the +

I'd do it for that too

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No deal not involving Subban or Price would ever be considered.

It's a 1st overall. Not #5, #1. It costs ridiculously high to get, and basically their GM says 'I won't trade it unless you force me to'.
And that's why it won't happen!

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Couturier isn't going 1st overall, so we don't need the Olier's pick.
Yeah I know, but I would trade that package anywhere from 1st to 5th pick in order to get him.

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He ain't going nowhere, a 6'1 hard-working right handed super talented hometown center is kind of what we've been looking for the last 10, 15 years. Couturier and Leblanc were really good together in the WJC camp, those 2 would be legends with the Habs one day.
"Super talented" and "legends," really? This is why I'm worried about Leblanc. If folks don't lower their expectations, he is going to get some undeserved backlash from fans and media in a couple of years. His ceiling just isn't that high.

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"Super talented" and "legends," really? This is why I'm worried about Leblanc. If folks don't lower their expectations, he is going to get some undeserved backlash from fans and media in a couple of years. His ceiling just isn't that high.
No, but he is a player that is worth more to a team than the stats show. He's a guy that plays bigger than his size and that can score both skill goals and also the dirty ones by driving the net.

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