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06-09-2011, 01:17 PM
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Versteeg and Carle for Gudbranson
Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please.

Pronger - Gudbranson
Timonen - Coburn
Meszaros - Gustafsson
Bartulis

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06-09-2011, 01:44 PM
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I wonder how many 1st and 2nd rounders we should to Steeger+Carle to get Gud...

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06-09-2011, 01:49 PM
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Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please.

Pronger - Gudbranson
Timonen - Coburn
Meszaros - Gustafsson
Bartulis
Pronger (50GP projected)/Meszaros - Gudbranson
Timonen (if stays healthy enough as well)- Coburn
Bartulis - Gustafsson (Yikes!)

Doesn't look as great when your 2 D anchors are long in the tooth and have health issues with Pronger's being the most suspect.

I'm kind of ageeing I'm not so sure it's good this year to thin ourselves out on D..best to do it at forward but maybe the right trade(s) can mitigate most of the issues.

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Pronger (50GP projected)
I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but I think Pronger plays 70 to 75 games this year. Last season was the first time in seven seasons that he played less than 66 games. I know he's older, but he's also exceptionally conditioned. I think with the fact that the Flyers are four deep with defensemen (Coburn, Carle, Timonen and Meszaros), Pronger really doesn't need to play 25 to 30 minutes a night anymore to be effective. As well, if he misses 20 to 25 games, it's not a devastating loss to be without him.

As for the back surgery Pronger had, he had it in May, so you've got June, July and August to heal up and September and October to work himself back into shape. There's plenty of time for Pronger to heal up. I really think he'll be in the lineup come opening night.

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06-09-2011, 01:58 PM
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Pronger (50GP projected)/Meszaros - Gudbranson
Timonen (if stays healthy enough as well)- Coburn
Bartulis - Gustafsson (Yikes!)

Doesn't look as great when your 2 D anchors are long in the tooth and have health issues with Pronger's being the most suspect.

I'm kind of ageeing I'm not so sure it's good this year to thin ourselves out on D..best to do it at forward but maybe the right trade(s) can mitigate most of the issues.
Without Pronger, Carle is probably as bad a choice as we can make.

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06-09-2011, 02:01 PM
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Versteeg + Carle for Gudbranson

I can dream, right?
That'd be so sweeeeet... *sigh*

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06-09-2011, 02:04 PM
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Pronger (50GP projected)/Meszaros - Gudbranson
Timonen (if stays healthy enough as well)- Coburn
Bartulis - Gustafsson (Yikes!)

Doesn't look as great when your 2 D anchors are long in the tooth and have health issues with Pronger's being the most suspect.

I'm kind of ageeing I'm not so sure it's good this year to thin ourselves out on D..best to do it at forward but maybe the right trade(s) can mitigate most of the issues.
Eh, dont know why Gustafsson on the 3rd pairing is yikes... Im pretty sure he will fight for that 6th d-man and probably get it. Time to trust a phantom or two.

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06-09-2011, 02:06 PM
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carter + versteeg + carle
for
gudbranson + repik + 2011 1st + 2012 2nd

boom. there's my dream.

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06-09-2011, 02:07 PM
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Actually, taking a look at things, I wouldn't be opposed if a guy like Drew Shore and a draft pick (preferably a 2nd round pick) came back for Versteeg. I think Shore would be a nice fit in Philadelphia and the 2nd would certainly help in restocking the prospect pipeline. Shore has good size, good hands, is physical and would be ready in about two more years (people forget that he just turned 20 this year - a year in the minors and then bring him up to the pros after that). I'm starting to like the idea of Drew Shore being a Flyer more and more.....

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06-09-2011, 02:09 PM
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carter + versteeg + carle
for
gudbranson + repik + 2011 1st + 2012 2nd

boom. there's my dream.
Soo....

Carter + Versteeg + Carle

for

Gudbranson + Repik + Landeskog/Larsson + 2nd 2012

I could live with that.

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Eh, dont know why Gustafsson on the 3rd pairing is yikes... Im pretty sure he will fight for that 6th d-man and probably get it. Time to trust a phantom or two.
I agree. Honestly, I think we'll trade Carle and our defense will look like this:

Pronger - Mesz
Timonen - Coburn
O'Donnell - Gustafsson


O'Donnell still has the capability to play in the top 4 if Pronger isn't ready or gets hurt during the season. It isn't idea but it is do'able.

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06-09-2011, 02:19 PM
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maybe homer does a genius move and eats it on the versteeg trade, moves him with shelley and walker for some draft picks and or a character player and bam!

eliminate those 3 guys we have 6 mill of cap space, thats a bryzgalov.

what if we traded Hartnell? i dont know what it is about him... but i hate him at 4.2 mill a year

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I have Gudbranson on my HUT. He is soooo good, but thats a game lol. But I would do

Versteeg + Carle

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Gudbranson and maybe a 2nd 3rd round pick

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06-09-2011, 02:27 PM
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i think we'd be lucky to get the bran-man for carle and versteeg straight up, let alone getting an additional pick.

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i think we'd be lucky to get the bran-man for carle and versteeg straight up, let alone getting an additional pick.
Pretty much this.

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I have Gudbranson on my HUT. He is soooo good, but thats a game lol. But I would do

Versteeg + Carle

for

Gudbranson and maybe a 2nd 3rd round pick
Yes. I doubt Florida would go for this though, unless they really are on bad terms with Gudbranson.

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maybe homer does a genius move and eats it on the versteeg trade, moves him with shelley and walker for some draft picks and or a character player and bam!

eliminate those 3 guys we have 6 mill of cap space, thats a bryzgalov.

what if we traded Hartnell? i dont know what it is about him... but i hate him at 4.2 mill a year
Or just waive Shelley and Walker (and Leighton), stick them in the AHL, and get something of value for Versteeg.

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06-09-2011, 02:33 PM
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Id trade my left nut for Gudbranson for Versteeg. I was thoroughly unimpressed by him

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Soo....

Carter + Versteeg + Carle

for

Gudbranson + Repik + Landeskog/Larsson + 2nd 2012

I could live with that.
The thought of having Larsson and Gudbranson ready to take over for timmo and Prongs is too good to pass up. Yeah we are giving up the only proven player in the deal but id do it in a heart beat.

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The thought of having Larsson and Gudbranson ready to take over for timmo and Prongs is too good to pass up. Yeah we are giving up the only proven player in the deal but id do it in a heart beat.
Yeah, and we can also forget about winning anytime soon.

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Yeah, and we can also forget about winning anytime soon.
But we'd still have our core of forwards to go with Larsson and Gudbranson.

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i'm surprised that people undervalue steeg and carle so much.

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i'm surprised that people undervalue steeg and carle so much.
I think the same way. Especially when people talk about how bad steeg was this year even though he was playing with a ****ing torn abdominal muscle.

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i'm surprised that people undervalue steeg and carle so much.
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I think the same way. Especially when people talk about how bad steeg was this year even though he was playing with a ****ing torn abdominal muscle.
I disagree.

I actually want to move Carle because I think he DOES have value. (I'm of the opinion that Carle, Hartnell, and Versteeg are really the only options to be moved, as they aren't critical and they make substantial money.) Versteeg had a rough year, and therefore would probably not fetch what we had paid to get him, which, imo, makes it unlikely he's the one to go.

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