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06-10-2011, 08:38 AM
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700k...not bad i would have thought 600k but he's earned it.
I expected him to go for the million. He pretty much scored at a .5 pace last season, you rarely see guys of that production get less than 1M. Great deal from Gauthier.

Gauthier has done a good job so far. I would have given Gill a little less, but I can live with that signing.
Looking forward to seeing how much Gorges will be inked for. I'd be surprised if Markov gets more than his previous deal, but Gorges should get a raise.

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Darche did what was asked of him and scored some big goals for us. I don't mind him on the bottom lines.

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I figured we'd have to give him at least 900k, great signing, happy he is back.

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I can't say that i hate Darche, but, with all those signing, we will still have that soft team nex year...

That's sad.

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This guy does a great job, good signing. Our only player who has been kinda effective infront of the net lol

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I can't say that i hate Darche, but, with all those signing, we will still have that soft team nex year...

That's sad.
Darche is not soft... you're confusing softiness with fighting and nastiness... two very different things.

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3rd-4th line veteran that can still put up some points and has great leadership for 700k is a great signing. He'll likely start on the 3rd line, but I'm hoping he'll be on the 4th by the end of the year and not on one of the first 2! I just wish that younger players with more upside pass him by, but he's a fine substitute for when 3rd liners are struggling.

I feel that one thing the organization is doing well this time compared to the Higgins-Ryder-Komisarek era is that they're signing great mentors to lead our youth. Subban, Price, Eller, Pacioretty have great models in the organization with Plekanec, Gill, Gionta, Darche, hopefully Markov. Guys that have great work ethic, follow what the coach ask, and don't create unnecessary drama or seem to have huge mood swings.

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I can't say that i hate Darche, but, with all those signing, we will still have that soft team nex year...

That's sad.
You can't predict the future and Darche is anything but "soft".

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I can't say that i hate Darche, but, with all those signing, we will still have that soft team nex year...

That's sad.
Darche is exactly what we need and doesn't shy away from contact and going to the front of the net, hopefully Gauthier can add a big player or two but Darche isn't "soft"

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06-10-2011, 08:47 AM
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I can't say that i hate Darche, but, with all those signing, we will still have that soft team nex year...

That's sad.
"All those signings"? You mean Diaz who may or may not make the team?

Yemelin is the opposite of soft. Kostitsyn may be inconsistent, but definitely not soft.
And Darche, not the big time physical presence, but at least goes to the net - and after all, may not be more than a reserve forward.

I don't see how this really means anything for next year. We had/have lots of bodies under contract. Some could still be moved out (e.g. Pouliot, Spacek...) and replaced with bigger presences.

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06-10-2011, 08:47 AM
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I don't mind him on the 2nd PP, he brings size in front of the net and decent hands enough to finish. How is that a bad thing?
It's a bad thing because it means our top 6 is lacking.
You want Gomez, Gionta, Plek, Cammy, AK, MaxPac, DD, Eller, (maybe another offensive UFA), to be on the PP, not Darche.

He was a good temporary fix last season because the rest of the guys had their struggles and our PP wasn't working. He did a commendable job there, but I don't think people should expect him there.

Nothing is guaranteed to Darche. We might have a very tight 4th line so Darche may very well end up being the 13th forward. If we sign an UFA (Jagr or whoever else as long as it's a top 6-9 player), then I believe our top 9 will be Plek-Cammy-Gionta-MaxPac-Gomez-UFA-Eller-AK-DD. That means our bottom line will be battled out with Moen, Darche, White, Pyatt, and perhaps another UFA (defensive/faceoff specialist).

I don't think Darche will score at the same pace as last year, nor do I wish to see him get the same opportunities as it would be mean that our team isn't doing too well (him on PP and top lines).

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Can someone bring up the tread of last year when we inked him for a year. The reactions were not the same

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06-10-2011, 08:49 AM
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Good!

that is a good value. he earned a slight raise. he can get the job done, adds depth grit, and drive to the net. I like.


PG having a pretty good off season so far!
Sign Emelin=wow
sign Diaz= nice find
sign Gill to reasonable deal= solid
Sign Akost 1 yr same money = good
sign Darche 1 yr slight raise= solid

2 solid signing in 2 days! now lets see what he has planned for this weekned!

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06-10-2011, 08:51 AM
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Darche is exactly what we need and doesn't shy away from contact and going to the front of the net, hopefully Gauthier can add a big player or two but Darche isn't "soft"
Add them where? There's no place left to add some grit. You now have Darche, White, Moen and possibly Pouliot to play on the 4th line.

I don't want goons but in the end, we have to get tougher.

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I liked Darche in his role last year.

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I can't say that i hate Darche, but, with all those signing, we will still have that soft team nex year...

That's sad.
What the heck is it with people and softness??
I'm even hearing things now that Vancouver is soft. Anybody outside Boston and Philly, not soft?...

Also, we signed Diaz who should start in the AHL, Emelin who's very aggressive and don't mind dropping the gloves, Darche and Gill may not be fighters, but they will clear the net and get involve in every scrum. AK lead our team in hits.

You want us to resemble the Bruins?? I don't. At all.

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Can someone bring up the tread of last year when we inked him for a year. The reactions were not the same
I admit I wasn't pleased last year. I felt we should have signed an aging vet that could step onto the top 6 in case of injuries. Someone we could have gotten for about 1M. It was getting more annoying as we saw our top 6 struggle throughout the start.
But Darche has done a commendable job, so I have no choice but to say I was wrong and welcome him back as a Habs.

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06-10-2011, 08:55 AM
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It's a good signing and similar to the Gill signing. The Habs get a guy who works when he is on the ice, doesn't complain when he is on the bench and is probably pretty good in the dressng room. It also means the Habs don't have to rush in a young prospect before he is ready.

PG is slowly, methodically building out the team.

Over the next couple of weeks it will be interesting to see how he puts on the final touches.

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Can someone bring up the tread of last year when we inked him for a year. The reactions were not the same
Hahahah you're right! I know that last year when we signed him I didn't like it, but the guy just had an awesome season (Even tho he did get injured) and seemed really popular within the young guns, because he gives them alot of advice.

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I admit I wasn't pleased last year. I felt we should have signed an aging vet that could step onto the top 6 in case of injuries. Someone we could have gotten for about 1M. It was getting more annoying as we saw our top 6 struggle throughout the start.
But Darche has done a commendable job, so I have no choice but to say I was wrong and welcome him back as a Habs.
Sounds like Darche to me. Hate having him in the top 6 for a long stretch, but he can do a fine fill-in job if really needed. And hopefully a guy like Palushaj is now ready to step in should there be a longer term injury later on in the season.

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Add them where? There's no place left to add some grit. You now have Darche, White, Moen and possibly Pouliot to play on the 4th line.

I don't want goons but in the end, we have to get tougher.
Maybe a trade, there is no guarantee Pouliot will be back and White as much as we pencil him in there is nothing guaranteed for him as well

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What the heck is it with people and softness??
I'm even hearing things now that Vancouver is soft. Anybody outside Boston and Philly, not soft?...

Also, we signed Diaz who should start in the AHL, Emelin who's very aggressive and don't mind dropping the gloves, Darche and Gill may not be fighters, but they will clear the net and get involve in every scrum. AK lead our team in hits.

You want us to resemble the Bruins?? I don't. At all.
Yes and No if that's a possible answer

Take a guy like Horton who was available last off season, playing with Plekanec he would have been perfect, scores, hits and fights.

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06-10-2011, 09:02 AM
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Add them where? There's no place left to add some grit. You now have Darche, White, Moen and possibly Pouliot to play on the 4th line.

I don't want goons but in the end, we have to get tougher.
Of the 4 names you mention, White and Moen are physical players willing to drop the gloves, Darche is at least willing to go to the net (and can in a pinch sit as a 13th forward anyway), and Pouliot may or may not be back.

It's also not a given that we will find a new top 6 forward on the market. That may create another bottom 6 hole. OR the top 6 forward we do find could be a tougher player like an Erik Cole.

Agreed, right now we lack size and physicality in our top 6. But in the bottom 6, you only have Desharnais as a not physical guy (Eller does not shy away from taking the body either), so there is plenty of room to toughen the team up.

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1st unhappy poster I guess, do not like the signing at all. At some point, we are going to have to stop with the "pushing a veteran for a spot" mentality and give our prospects achance to fight for a spot between them...

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1st unhappy poster I guess, do not like the signing at all. At some point, we are going to have to stop with the "pushing a veteran for a spot" mentality and give our prospects achance to fight for a spot between them...
If a prospect can't get over the Darche hurdle to win a spot in the line-up, he's not ready for the show.

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06-10-2011, 09:07 AM
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1st unhappy poster I guess, do not like the signing at all. At some point, we are going to have to stop with the "pushing a veteran for a spot" mentality and give our prospects achance to fight for a spot between them...
Which prospect(s) exactly do you see fighting for Darche's job in Montreal? We don't have anyone ready to begin the year in such a role. By mid-season, you may have Palushaj, and if he's deserving, they will find him room as they did for Pacioretty. He looked like he still had quite a bit of work to do in his call-up last year, and he isn't really a bottom 6 type of player anyway (maybe on an offensive third line some day...).

But right now... there is no one ready to step in. This year, a guy like Darche is needed. Next year the story may be different, as Palushaj, Leblanc, Engqvist, Avtsin, and maybe even Conboy and/or Kristo (though likely to start in Hamilton) could all be NHL-ready.

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Looks like Gauthier is ready to bring back the exact same team as last year. Too bad.

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