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06-10-2011, 09:18 AM
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Beef , Can I post what I told you in private message, or no !! I know if I post what I told you, people will just say it is BS, but quite relevant to this thread imo !
Hey now...you can't get people's curiosity piqued like that...it has to be posted or at least PM'd to me. However, I will have to corroborate your sources with VanSciver first....

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Beef , Can I post what I told you in private message, or no !! I know if I post what I told you, people will just say it is BS, but quite relevant to this thread imo !
Hmm, I haven't gotten a PM. Go for it, though.

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Hey now...you can't get people's curiosity piqued like that...it has to be posted or at least PM'd to me. However, I will have to corroborate your sources with VanSciver first....
By sources do you mean Bill Meltzer?

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By sources do you mean Bill Meltzer?
Well yes he's the most obvious one but moreso these other nebulous legit sources....

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By sources do you mean Bill Meltzer?
Bill Meltzer and the Flyers press release.

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Hmm, I haven't gotten a PM. Go for it, though.
Last week you did, I just got back from Vegas. About the question I asked a certain NHL coach ?

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Last week you did, I just got back from Vegas. About the question I asked a certain NHL coach ?
post it or i'll kill you

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post it or i'll kill you
That could be intractable, but I'll let it slide because I'm in the same boat.

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Last week you did, I just got back from Vegas. About the question I asked a certain NHL coach ?
Yeah man, do it to it.

edit: you might want to post it soon, because apparently you might be murdered if you don't. Just a heads up.

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Tap Tap Tap....I'm waiting?

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Yeah man, do it to it.

edit: you might want to post it soon, because apparently you might be murdered if you don't. Just a heads up.

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Last Saturday I played in a local minor celebrity golf tourney, my celebrity was Curt Keilback, freaking awesome for any old Jets fan. On one of the holes there was a back log and the group waiting to tee off had Mike Keane and Scott Arniel in it. I played with Keane the year before so we had a quick conversation. Before any of these rumours I asked Arniel about Carter/Carle for picks to get space for a goalie.

His quick reply was as far as he knew Carter was 100% not available and when I joked that Carle sucked, his reply was he would take Carle in a second on his team and that he did not suck. He also thought our goalies would be Bryz/Bob. I forgot I asked him what he thought about Ericcson being released, but in my drunken stooper I forgot what he said

I was drunk, so he could of just been playing along, but the impression I got was that he was a big fan of Carle ?

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Good, trade him there for picks. We need them.

edit: WHAT GDK SAID. Perhaps you will be murdered anyways.

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You told another NHL coach that a player we're probably trying to trade sucks? C'mon, we're trying to get the 8th overall pick for him, man!

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Last Saturday I played in a local minor celebrity golf tourney, my celebrity was Curt Keilback, freaking awesome for any old Jets fan. On one of the holes there was a back log and the group waiting to tee off had Mike Keane and Scott Arniel in it. I played with Keane the year before so we had a quick conversation. Before any of these rumours I asked Arniel about Carter/Carle for picks to get space for a goalie.

His quick reply was as far as he knew Carter was 100% not available and when I joked that Carle sucked, his reply was he would take Carle in a second on his team and that he did not suck. He also thought our goalies would be Bryz/Bob. I forgot I asked him what he thought about Ericcson being released, but in my drunken stooper I forgot what he said

I was drunk, so he could of just been playing along, but the impression I got was that he was a big fan of Carle ?
so you ruined his trade value....

....i am going to kill you still.

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His quick reply was as far as he knew Carter was 100% not available and when I joked that Carle sucked, his reply was he would take Carle in a second on his team and that he did not suck. He also thought our goalies would be Bryz/Bob. I forgot I asked him what he thought about Ericcson being released, but in my drunken stooper I forgot what he said

I was drunk, so he could of just been playing along, but the impression I got was that he was a big fan of Carle ?
This source obviously sucks

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This source is on the money with Carle

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Last Saturday I played in a local minor celebrity golf tourney, my celebrity was Curt Keilback, freaking awesome for any old Jets fan. On one of the holes there was a back log and the group waiting to tee off had Mike Keane and Scott Arniel in it. I played with Keane the year before so we had a quick conversation. Before any of these rumours I asked Arniel about Carter/Carle for picks to get space for a goalie.

His quick reply was as far as he knew Carter was 100% not available and when I joked that Carle sucked, his reply was he would take Carle in a second on his team and that he did not suck. He also thought our goalies would be Bryz/Bob. I forgot I asked him what he thought about Ericcson being released, but in my drunken stooper I forgot what he said

I was drunk, so he could of just been playing along, but the impression I got was that he was a big fan of Carle ?
I actually like Carle. He doens't suck as much as people here say, he is just not spectacular like Timonen or Pronger and he makes $3.5 on a cap strapped team.

I would prefer to keep Carle, but something has to give. Carle and Versteeg would be something I am more willing to move then Carter, but Voracek and 8 overall? Well, that could work.

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I was drunk, so he could of just been playing along, but the impression I got was that he was a big fan of Carle ?
He probably read 3 lines of a Bill Meltzer article and took it as gospel.

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He probably read 3 lines of a Bill Meltzer article and took it as gospel.
That or he's really VanSciver in disguise.

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He probably read 3 lines of a Bill Meltzer article and took it as gospel.
I like Bill Meltzer and agree with him alot and he does sometimes make me reassess my positions but yes he is by no means infallible. I've seen him backtrack on some things..and some positions I don't agree with but obviously I'm just "some poster on a forum."

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That or he's really VanSciver in disguise.
Bill has too much integrity to engage in that kind of ballyhoo and Tom Foolery....

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Bill has too much integrity to engage in that kind of ballyhoo and Tom Foolery....
We can only hope.

But I was referencing Arniel.

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Hartnell for as dumb as he is, really seems to be very well liked in the dressing room. It would be a bad idea to remove a player like that. He's been here since the rebuild, he's been to the finals and was a key player in getting us there.

Hartnell on his game is one of the best players in the NHL for his money. Trading Carter however does make sense. I want a hell of a lot more than the 1st + voracek for him though. Another first, or another solid prospect at least.
Like I said, every trade has its cons. But if you're worried about disturbing the locker room, you're not going to trade Carter either.

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I take it all back...MELTZER YOU SUCK!

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Earlier this week, the Flyers shot down rumors about the club considering a deal that would send the 8th pick of the 2011 Entry Draft along with Jakub Voracek (a 2007 first-rounder) here in exchange for Jeff Carter. However, I would not be surprised if the Flyers wind up making some moves that end up providing the club with a pick in the first- and/or second round of the draft.

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Although there are never any guarantees with a prospect, it is not hard to project Larsson as a number two defenseman in the NHL with franchise player potential if the offensive production emerges. On the flip side, I would be very hesitant to trade Carter (or Mike Richards) to try to move up to one of the top two picks of the draft, and that's probably what it would take.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...61011/45/36313

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I take it all back...MELTZER YOU SUCK!

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...61011/45/36313
He's pretty spot on with everything though.

He also noted that we're probably going to be getting a pick in the first two rounds, something I mentioned in my HF Draft Preview that should be up as soon as the draft previews start going up.

I can't imagine not having a pick in the first two rounds this year. We have to move a top 6 forward and/or a top 4 defenseman to fit a goalie. At some point that player (those players) are going to get a return befitting what he is (they are).

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