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06-11-2011, 08:51 AM
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Hah! Myers+Ennis gets you Malkin, not the #1 in another weak draft with no superstar... In your dreams.
This just in, super scout FreddieBisco says there is no Superstar in this draft and that it is Weak. Bob McKenzie says different as the majority of scouts he asked said they would take RNH over Seguin if had the chance.

That does not matter though, because HF poster Freddie Bisco says that is not true.

Hmmmm who to believe, scouts or HF poster Freddie Bisco, tough one.

Not only that, HF super scout Freddie Bisco says this is ANOTHER weak draft implying that last year was weak as well. Very interesting as last years draft was one of the best of recent years.

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06-11-2011, 08:54 AM
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"useful players" isn't going to get you the first overall pick.

If nobody offers the Oilers a high-end player for the pick, they'll keep it and use it to try to draft one.

So who, other than Myers, do the Sabres have that fits the bill? Miller, of course, but he'll be a UFA by the time the Oilers are ready to compete. So who else, if not Myers?
That has nothing to do with what he posted, which was a reply to my post, which was a commentary on the general trend of all trade threads involving Buffalo to degenerate into the other team asking for Myers regardless of how many times it is made clear he is not available or how many other valuable pieces are offered. The fact is that the other pieces can get a deal done, but for some reason everyone just obsesses over the one or two best pieces.

In any case I agree that EDM and BUF make lousy trade partners in this respect, I was just shedding light on a general trend in threads, of which this thread is just one.

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such a brutal offer

think more of something along the lines of Myers and your first or Ennis, Kassian 1st and 2nd

People don't trade 1st overall picks for spare parts and yes you always overpay. now if you had the 3rd or 4th pick then maybe that offer wowuld work out.
First of all the OP is not a brutal offer, as Buffalo should decline. Those are three of our best prospects, and the pick is good enough for at least one of McNeil, Koko, or Grimaldi.

As per bolded, that is a joke. Earlier in the thread a Sabres fan said he might consider Myers for Hall, Eberle, 1st overall 2011, and your 1st next year. Personally I would still turn it down. As has been said 10000 times, Myers is not available.

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That has nothing to do with what he posted, which was a reply to my post, which was a commentary on the general trend of all trade threads involving Buffalo to degenerate into the other team asking for Myers regardless of how many times it is made clear he is not available or how many other valuable pieces are offered. The fact is that the other pieces can get a deal done, but for some reason everyone just obsesses over the one or two best pieces.

In any case I agree that EDM and BUF make lousy trade partners in this respect, I was just shedding light on a general trend in threads, of which this thread is just one.



First of all the OP is not a brutal offer, as Buffalo should decline. Those are three of our best prospects, and the pick is good enough for at least one of McNeil, Koko, or Grimaldi.

As per bolded, you vastly misjudge the value. Earlier in the thread a Sabres fan said he might consider Myers for Hall, Eberle, 1st overall 2011, and your 1st next year. Personally I would still turn it down. As has been said 10000 times, Myers is not available.
The OP is a horrid offer. Myers not available? Either is the 1st overall, end of conversation. We are not trading the 1st overall for trash.

Wait.... Did you just say you would turn down a trade of Hall, Eberle, 2011 1st overall and 2012 1st for Tyler freaking Myers? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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The OP is a horrid offer. Myers not available? Either is the 1st overall, end of conversation. We are not trading the 1st overall for trash.

Wait.... Did you just say you would turn down a trade of Hall, Eberle, 2011 1st overall and 2012 1st for Tyler freaking Myers? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

This board is pure ****.
Oh be quiet, the point is that hes not available. That means no matter what you offer the answer is still no. Get it?

Also the items in the OP are not trash. Those are two future top-4 Dmen, and a 2/3C, not to mention the 16th. Buffalo would decline the OP if it were offered from EDM.

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Oh be quiet, the point is that hes not available. That means no matter what you offer the answer is still no. Get it?
Same with the 1st overall unless it is Myers++

Get it?

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Same with the 1st overall unless it is Myers++

Get it?
The point is if you wanted Myers you need to add to the 1st, not the other way around. Get it?

Oh wait, Myers is still not available. The answer is still no.

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The point is if you wanted Myers you need to add to the 1st, not the other way around. Get it?

Oh wait, Myers is still not available. The answer is still no.
I do not think you understand... OP is a Buffalo fan. If he wants 1st overall he is STARTING with Myers and adding onto it. Do not want to do that? Then no 1st overall.

Does that compute, son?

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I do not think you understand... OP is a Buffalo fan. If he wants 1st overall he is STARTING with Myers and adding onto it. Do not want to do that? Then no 1st overall.

Does that compute, son?
Buffalo will not trade Myers under any circumstances. The OP offered a deal that was more than fair using other pieces. Edmonton obsessed over Myers thats fine, but the thread is basically now Edmonton asking for Myers. No one really thinks Buffalo is interested in acquiring the 1st anyways, but if EDM wants Myers they are starting with the 1st and adding... well, it doesn't matter, since the answer is still no. This is not difficult to understand. You'll catch on eventually.

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Buffalo will not trade Myers under any circumstances. The OP offered a deal that was more than fair using other pieces. Edmonton obsessed over Myers thats fine, but the thread is basically now Edmonton asking for Myers. No one really thinks Buffalo is interested in acquiring the 1st anyways, but if EDM wants Myers they are starting with the 1st and adding... well, it doesn't matter, since the answer is still no. This is not difficult to understand. You'll catch on eventually.
EDM does not need 2/3C as the have Gagner/Horcoff?cogs/Pitlick/lander
they also do not need 4/5 d-men as they have gilbert/smid/petry/tuebert/plante/peckham

they need a Number 1c or 1D so unless one of those is coming back dont expect to receive the 1st overall pick

Edm has good depth it just needs superstars now so no need to trade a potential 1c or 1d for potential 2nd/3rd line players

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EDM does not need 2/3C as the have Gagner/Horcoff?cogs/Pitlick/lander
they also do not need 4/5 d-men as they have gilbert/smid/petry/tuebert/plante/peckham

they need a Number 1c or 1D so unless one of those is coming back dont expect to receive the 1st overall pick

Edm has good depth it just needs superstars now so no need to trade a potential 1c or 1d for potential 2nd/3rd line players
Good, then you can keep the 1st and we'll keep Myers /thread.

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Good, then you can keep the 1st and we'll keep Myers /thread.
its annoying enough reading HF Mobile...but I'm glad after 7 pages you finally understand that Edmonton has enough "potential" 2/3 line centres and 3/4/5 defenseman. You wouldn't be able to trade current pluggers for a current superstar so why would "potential" pluggers get a "potential" superstar?

Edmonton will be keeping first overall, and Buffalo can keep all their "potential" pluggers

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Oh be quiet, the point is that hes not available. That means no matter what you offer the answer is still no. Get it?

Also the items in the OP are not trash. Those are two future top-4 Dmen, and a 2/3C, not to mention the 16th. Buffalo would decline the OP if it were offered from EDM.
Your insane man. Hall, Eberle, first overall and next years pick for myers and you wouldnt do it. i would kill Tambellini if he ever approached such craziness. Im worried if you are sane turning down such an offer (even though it would never happen)

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Good, then you can keep the 1st and we'll keep Myers /thread.
So were you just trolling the other poster or did it legitimately take this long to get it. That one guy said we only want elite talent like 8 times and you just kept ignoring it (not to mention pages 1-7 all having the same message from oiler fans),now another guy says the exact same thing its /thread

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Okay, that has nothing to do with the point I was making the poster who I quoted.
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That has nothing to do with what he posted, which was a reply to my post, which was a commentary on the general trend of all trade threads involving Buffalo to degenerate into the other team asking for Myers regardless of how many times it is made clear he is not available or how many other valuable pieces are offered. The fact is that the other pieces can get a deal done, but for some reason everyone just obsesses over the one or two best pieces.
No, the other pieces couldn't get a deal done. Not this deal.

I don't know and don't really care about the history of Buffalo Sabres trade proposals on this board. Maybe there's a thousand other proposals where Tyler Myers gets dragged in unfairly. But in this case, Myers is literally the only thing the Sabres could offer to pry that pick away from the Oilers. It's a building-block for this franchise and it won't be moved unless there's a cornerstone piece in return.

Would love to acquire Pysyk or Adams or McNabb. Just not at the expense of the chance to acquire a franchise player. You want to talk some swap of prospects, or maybe a guy like Hemsky or Gagner? That'd be super. But the #1 pick is not available for any quality-for-quantity deal.

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I don't think there is anything that buffalo could pry it away with. maybe myers but then whats the point?

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So were you just trolling the other poster or did it legitimately take this long to get it. That one guy said we only want elite talent like 8 times and you just kept ignoring it (not to mention pages 1-7 all having the same message from oiler fans),now another guy says the exact same thing its /thread
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its annoying enough reading HF Mobile...but I'm glad after 7 pages you finally understand that Edmonton has enough "potential" 2/3 line centres and 3/4/5 defenseman. You wouldn't be able to trade current pluggers for a current superstar so why would "potential" pluggers get a "potential" superstar?

Edmonton will be keeping first overall, and Buffalo can keep all their "potential" pluggers
One Sabre fan (the OP, not me) suggested a deal for the 1st overall. Fair or not, after that there was a parade of Oiler fans demanding Myers. This thread has taken seven pages for Oiler fans to realize that hes not available.

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