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06-12-2011, 09:32 AM
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Thats not what I said. At all.

I said they dont/wont make an official press release about NOT SIGNING A PROSPECT - I've yet to see one here.
Gordie Clark publicly stated they won't be signing him this summer, he will be going back to BC, and they support his decision.

It was in the paper.

That's official enough for me.

This isn't like the Erixon situation where they'll lose his rights if he doesn't sign this summer. And its so he can get his college degree. It's not like a European player refusing to come over seas. So it's not an embarrassing situation for the organization.

Hopefully he gets a lot of course work done this summer and he doesn't feel he needs to go back for his senior year. Hopefully he gets his degree sometime next summer and this won't be an issue.

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06-12-2011, 09:38 AM
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I was just re-iterating my compact with our readers. Each writer is different and handles the job differently.

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06-12-2011, 09:39 AM
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I was just re-iterating my compact with our readers. Each writer is different and handles the job differently.

We appreciate everything you do Leslie.

Don't let my questioning the report feel like we don't appreciate your work.

People should always question everything. It's how we learn and how we get confirmation.

By the way, any updates on who or when the Rangers were going to invite those draft eligible players to New York?

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06-12-2011, 09:50 AM
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We appreciate everything you do Leslie.

Don't let my questioning the report feel like we don't appreciate your work.

People should always question everything. It's how we learn and how we get confirmation.

By the way, any updates on who or when the Rangers were going to invite those draft eligible players to New York?
Unfortunately, I have no info on who they are inviting to test with them in New York.

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Unfortunately, I have no info on who they are inviting to test with them in New York.
Thanks.

Will they even release that information? Or will it be some kind of off limits thing to media and outsiders?

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06-12-2011, 09:57 AM
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Thanks.

Will they even release that information? Or will it be some kind of off limits thing to media and outsiders?
Thus far, it has been off-limits. For the first time this season, Ottawa has invited the media to come watch. But most teams are really quiet about it. This year particularly since there are so many possibilities at number 15 (perhaps 20 guys, or more). So I don't expect the Rangers to want to tip off other teams as to the five or six players they have called in.

Not true for where Ottawa will draft, because the prospects that could be taken at that spot are pretty well-known.

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Thus far, it has been off-limits. For the first time this season, Ottawa has invited the media to come watch. But most teams are really quiet about it. This year particularly since there are so many possibilities at number 15 (perhaps 20 guys, or more). So I don't expect the Rangers to want to tip off other teams as to the five or six players they have called in.

Not true for where Ottawa will draft, because the prospects that could be taken at that spot are pretty well-known.
Thanks again.

It kind of sucks we are kept in the dark about these things. Even though it's for good reason. Still, seeing behind the scenes happenings is interesting. Or if they released that information after the draft.

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06-12-2011, 10:22 AM
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Wonder if Kreider will actually be able to finish his degree by next year, seems like that might be what he's going for. Wants to finish college before turning pro but wants to accelerate the process.

Also, if he somehow graduated next year, would the Rangers still have an extra year to hold onto his rights or does the clock start ticking and they have to sign him by that August?

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Wonder if Kreider will actually be able to finish his degree by next year, seems like that might be what he's going for. Wants to finish college before turning pro but wants to accelerate the process.

Also, if he somehow graduated next year, would the Rangers still have an extra year to hold onto his rights or does the clock start ticking and they have to sign him by that August?
College basketball players graduating in 3 years and going pro isn't unheard of. Off the top of my head, I know Emeka Okafor and Jay Williams did it.

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06-12-2011, 10:30 AM
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He's a bust of a pick anyways, would be shocked to see him as a 2nd line player.

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He's a bust of a pick anyways, would be shocked to see him as a 2nd line player.
Thanks for the assessment, Gordie. Move along.

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if he can graduate next year than i guess he should stay put. really wanted to see him in a rangers uniform though.

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He's a bust of a pick anyways, would be shocked to see him as a 2nd line player.
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I think he was joking.

I hope.

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Ugh, great.

I'd be happier if he just went to the CHL at this point.

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Wonder if Kreider will actually be able to finish his degree by next year, seems like that might be what he's going for. Wants to finish college before turning pro but wants to accelerate the process.

Also, if he somehow graduated next year, would the Rangers still have an extra year to hold onto his rights or does the clock start ticking and they have to sign him by that August?
I got my B.S. in Chem in three years without summer school...It can be done though you have to load on the hours.

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Care to elaborate?
He has the raw tools, but if his coaches aren't using him in key situation, that's not a good sign.

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06-12-2011, 11:19 AM
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As to the Rangers rights to Kreider, it should fall under 8.6(c)(ii) of the CBA (which BTW, I should keep open on my desktop, I am referring to it so much). If a player becomes a bona fide college student within a year of his being drafted, and then leaves college before his graduating class (which should include graduating early), then the drafting team has his rights until the fourth June 1 after the player is drafted. No offer need be made before then to keep his rights.

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06-12-2011, 11:22 AM
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Last time we draft a player going the NCAA route..

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****ing great.
That is my reaction too.

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Last time we draft a player going the NCAA route..
smdh....Education>>>>hockey

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I mean, I can understand him wanting to stay in college. I just think (and I believe the organization thinks this, too) AHL hockey will help him more.

If he doesn't dominate this year at the college level I will be EXTREMELY disappointed.

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smdh....Education>>>>hockey
We drafted him in the first round the play hockey and he can get his education after his hockey career. People have done it. It's not a matter of education over hockey.

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Fan ****ing tastic.

I hope you light the NCAA up kid, because if you don't, your career could be in jeopardy. This isn't as safe a move as he may think.

At least we know he'll be done with school after this year, and signing his contract ASAP next May.

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We drafted him in the first round the play hockey and he can get his education after his hockey career. People have done it. It's not a matter of education over hockey.
and what's wrong with getting an education now?

also the kid has a say in what he does...just because he was drafted in the first round doesn't mean he has to finish school early..the Rangers own his rights they don't OWN him

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