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06-11-2011, 01:57 AM
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Cgy Minny

could the flames land a guy like Latendresse from the WILD for a Stajan & 2nd Rounder.......... or would they want more.?


Alex Tanguay ($2.999m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.270m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m)
Rene Bourque ($3.333m) / Daymond Langkow ($4.500m) / Guillaume Latendresse ($2.500m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Olli Jokinen ($3.000m) / David Moss ($1.300m)
Niklas Hagman ($3.000m) / Lance Bouma ($0.693m) / Tom Kostopoulos ($0.916m)
Tim Jackman ($0.550m)

Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Robyn Regehr ($4.020m)
Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / Brett Carson ($0.575m)
Cory Sarich ($3.600m) / T.J. Brodie ($0.741m)
Christopher Breen ($0.543m)

Miikka Kiprusoff ($5.833m) / Henrik Karlsson ($0.650m)

CAP PAYROLL: $60,419,160

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From this thread in the Trades forum:

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Holy crap, Pens fans are nearly as delusional as Leafs fans.

This trade boils down to a late 1st rounder for the Wild's top goal scoring talent - and the Wild are already dying for goal scorers.

Big, big no from the Wild.
Sounds like unless we're unloading a guy capable of 30 goals - so basically Iginla or Bourque - we're not getting Latendresse. And from a Flames perspective, Latendresse isn't even close to the value of Iginla or Bourque. So no, Stajan and a 2nd wouldn't work at all.

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Stajan has negative trade value. He is terribly overpaid and nobody would take him off us even if we offered them a first round pick just to take his salary.

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Stajan has negative trade value. He is terribly overpaid and nobody would take him off us even if we offered them a first round pick just to take his salary.
Ok, we get it. Everyone on the Flames has negative trade value. The team is a mess in every way possible. Now stop posting. Go back to your canuck board

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Stajan and a second won't get anyone's great player. Stajan by himself can not be moved for value, he could only be moved for another unwanted salary. That's the very definition of negative value.


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Don't like a thread? Stay out of it. Don't like a poster? Click the username and then click 'Add to Ignore List.'

As for the original deal, it'll never happen. We would have to add big time.

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Very doubtful, the Wild will not want to take Stajan's cap hit especially since he is a 3rd liner. We would have to add quite a bit.

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Pretty suprised that everyone thinks Minny won't do it by I personally wouldn't do it from a Flames point of view. As much as Stajan struggled Latandresse is just as bad. He almost did have a 30 goal season but lacks dedication and effort, plus he comes into training camp 30 lbs overweight basically the next wellwood. I would keep Stajan over him let alone giving up a 2nd rounder.

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What would you guys think about a trade of Stajan and Kotalik for Souray are a 5th rounder? Would it work?

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What would you guys think about a trade of Stajan and Kotalik for Souray are a 5th rounder? Would it work?
its realistic

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its realistic
Souray only has one year left on a five year, twenty-seven million dollar contact.

Stajan has three years left on a deal that pays him 3.5 million per year.

Not sure why Edmonton would be at all interested.

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Souray only has one year left on a five year, twenty-seven million dollar contact.

Stajan has three years left on a deal that pays him 3.5 million per year.

Not sure why Edmonton would be at all interested.
Because Stajan would be an upgrade from some of the centers they have now. Put him on line 2 for a year or two and then buy him out if they need to. Then with Kotalik he only has the one year and can be let go. So the Oilers will get a center that has potential but hasnt shown it in the west. And also a RW that can help out for a year and maybe onward.

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06-12-2011, 11:23 PM
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Because Stajan would be an upgrade from some of the centers they have now. Put him on line 2 for a year or two and then buy him out if they need to. Then with Kotalik he only has the one year and can be let go. So the Oilers will get a center that has potential but hasnt shown it in the west. And also a RW that can help out for a year and maybe onward.
When's the last time the Oilers bought anyone out? This isn't fantasy hockey, this is real money.

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To the OP, that deal may of worked when Latendresse was with the Habs (and Stajan with the Leafs). But the Wild won't do that deal now. Their GM seems fairly conservative and would not trade a good player from their roster unless the value makes sense for their team. I think Feaster tried to get Kobasew at last years deadline and was obviously unsucessful. You wouldn't think his value would be that high, but it was obviously to steep for Feaster to pull the trigger.

I think a more realistic proposal may be something like Sarich and Moss for Latendresse and 2nd rounder.

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06-13-2011, 12:03 AM
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I think a more realistic proposal may be something like Sarich and Moss for Latendresse and 2nd rounder.
No this is not realistic neither.

Sarich is not worth a 2nd because of his salary.

Moss is definitely not worth Latendresse.

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Because Stajan would be an upgrade from some of the centers they have now. Put him on line 2 for a year or two and then buy him out if they need to. So the Oilers will get a center that has potential but hasnt shown it in the west.
Stajan has potential?

That's new even to his mom.

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No this is not realistic neither.

Sarich is not worth a 2nd because of his salary.

Moss is definitely not worth Latendresse.
Go and check your facts before you post. Look at what teams are actually paying for d-man similar to Sarich. IMO he is worth a minimum of a 2nd round pick. And Moss actually has lots of value to alot of teams, he is a gritty 20 goal scorer that makes under 1.5 million. If you look at what a player like Moore gets traded for (usually a 2nd rounder), I actually think there may be 1 or 2 teams that would even trade a "late" first round pick for Moss based soley on his production and cap hit. You just cannot find players like that who are available.

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I actually think there may be 1 or 2 teams that would even trade a "late" first round pick for Moss based soley on his production and cap hit. You just cannot find players like that who are available.
Even I have a hard time believing that something like that would be possible. I can see where you're coming from, but late 1st would be more useful in a package rather than being sent straight up.

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Even I have a hard time believing that something like that would be possible. I can see where you're coming from, but late 1st would be more useful in a package rather than being sent straight up.
I know it sounds crazy, but here's how I justify it. I think Moss >>> Moore. Almost every year Moore gets traded for a 2nd round pick lol. In 2010, Montreal traded a mid 2nd round pick to Florida for Moore. If a team like the Flyers has to trade 1 or 2 forwards to clear cap space and say loses 30-35 goals in doing so, they are going to need replace that. The chances of them signing such a forward in FA at that price are going to be next to nil unless you take a gamble on a project player (ie. Zherdev). So for a team being on the cusp of winning the Cup, they may be willing to part with a late 1st for someone like Moss.

However I acknowledge I am being extremely optimisitic.

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