i figured it would of went to cornwall on pembroke in the first place
It seems to be quite inregards to Cornwall haven't heard much and it appears this may be the year Brockville may fall back. It seems funny so many teams having prospect training camps so early seeing the season is still a few months away.
It seems to be quite inregards to Cornwall haven't heard much and it appears this may be the year Brockville may fall back. It seems funny so many teams having prospect training camps so early seeing the season is still a few months away.
Actually this is a sign of the times, these camps are a two fold - one is a revenue maker for smaller attendance market teams and the other or main reason is its now a competition to recruit players against USA teams. The ameriocan teams run there camps May in June so they know where they will play in the fall. Its forced teams to start camps a little earlier with the fear they may lose some canadian players and may not be able to recruit a few top end american players.
One team that should have several camps is Kanata, this has to be quite worrisome for the league and Kanata that they have lost some of their best players already and really their draft was nothing special in terms of top end players. My guess the league will do nothing until they see the product coming out of training camp, if it looks just okay they will make a move and quickly. This could be the 3rd time in 7 seasons the FPC was moved due to a franchise not capable of representing the league so i dont think Hockey Canada or the league will worry if they need to move.
If the Stallions arent ready expect the LumberKings to get the game, they put in a bid for this FPC and they just may get the award after their last 5 year historic run, looks good on both the league and HC.
I wasn't aware the FPC has been moved so often in the last 7 years. What teams lost the tournament? Was the decision made prior to the start of the season?
Actually this is a sign of the times, these camps are a two fold - one is a revenue maker for smaller attendance market teams and the other or main reason is its now a competition to recruit players against USA teams. The ameriocan teams run there camps May in June so they know where they will play in the fall. Its forced teams to start camps a little earlier with the fear they may lose some canadian players and may not be able to recruit a few top end american players.
One team that should have several camps is Kanata, this has to be quite worrisome for the league and Kanata that they have lost some of their best players already and really their draft was nothing special in terms of top end players. My guess the league will do nothing until they see the product coming out of training camp, if it looks just okay they will make a move and quickly. This could be the 3rd time in 7 seasons the FPC was moved due to a franchise not capable of representing the league so i dont think Hockey Canada or the league will worry if they need to move.
If the Stallions arent ready expect the LumberKings to get the game, they put in a bid for this FPC and they just may get the award after their last 5 year historic run, looks good on both the league and HC.
Let's all give Kanata a fair fighting chance to host the Cup. Let's wait and see what kind of team they ice. With teams like Kempt, SF, and Glouc. all rebuilding, I would suspect that Kanata would have a good chance of making playoffs. With a few deadline trades they could all of a sudden become a respectable team heading into playoffs. If not, I am sure the league has a plan in place. One idea would be for the losing team in finals to be the host team but still have tournament in Kanata. We have to see what teams have done over the summer. Which brings another topic. Who will be the surprise team? We know what Pemb and Cornwall will be like. Is this the year Nepean or CP moves into top three. B'ville loses alot. Hawksbury I think will be much improved. If CP could trade Stethem and Pascoal ( two first line guys) they obviously have filled those spots with better players. Goulet has not been sitting idle, I imagine he has bolstered his line up. Cumb could be a team to watch also. What do you guys think?
I wasn't aware the FPC has been moved so often in the last 7 years. What teams lost the tournament? Was the decision made prior to the start of the season?
i know when the colts got in awhile back ottawa was suppose to host it
look for either Dupuis or Philips to be shipped off to kanata as well.... i dont see sk keeping both of them happy together and kanata is truely missing a number one goalie to go in to fred page cup.
look for either Dupuis or Philips to be shipped off to kanata as well.... i dont see sk keeping both of them happy together and kanata is truely missing a number one goalie to go in to fred page cup.
After watching Phillips play last year I truely believe he should have a change to be the number one goalie, it that being said no one can takeaway what Dupius did it the finals. Phillips was a steady goalie when playing everyday and Dupius was shakey at times and let alot of weaks goals in. I think Phillips with more time playing everday has a higher level then Dupuis in the long run.
I wasn't aware the FPC has been moved so often in the last 7 years. What teams lost the tournament? Was the decision made prior to the start of the season?
Dont quote me on the teams or places as i just remember the changed venues. Prior to the Kings first cup, a CJHL team was supposed to host, they apparently did not have a strong team and the FPC was moved to Pembroke. That year the Kings were very strong but lost in the Finals. Then in 2008-2009 the 3rd cup for the Kings the FPC was in the Maritimes and a team that was in last was to host so the Dieppe Comandos hosted and PLK lost to Summerside in the semis.
What im saying is if they move again this year thats 3 times from 2005 to this upcoming season.
Having said this i agree with up-in-arms that give them a chance and the league will, but look how many posts are commenting on who is not coming back, coach of the year not coming back, forget about Dupuis or Phillips leaving. That wont happen especially if the Kings see na door to win the east again. So Kanata is definately in trouble and as they are finding out the players dont just show up.
The only way the Kings trade anyone is if they get lots more back and thats the only way they will give up these two, he will wait in his 5 phases of the season evaluate what they need and what they can live without.
I find it troubling that the FPC gets awarded to an organization that has the track record that Kanata has had since the current owner took over. There has been a regular turnover of both coaches and players, they have yet to prove that there is a clear plan in place to build a contender. In the end I hope they do since it will be great for the league.
That being said I do believe that they have a great group in place to organize the event (people like Tony House and Bob Thompson) will do a great job with the logistics. If I was a decision maker then I would propose that if the team does not either finish in the top 4 during the regular season or qualify for the league semi-finals that the two league finalists get the spots and that the Stallions still host it, they just may not be playing in it.
I find it troubling that the FPC gets awarded to an organization that has the track record that Kanata has had since the current owner took over. There has been a regular turnover of both coaches and players, they have yet to prove that there is a clear plan in place to build a contender. In the end I hope they do since it will be great for the league.
That being said I do believe that they have a great group in place to organize the event (people like Tony House and Bob Thompson) will do a great job with the logistics. If I was a decision maker then I would propose that if the team does not either finish in the top 4 during the regular season or qualify for the league semi-finals that the two league finalists get the spots and that the Stallions still host it, they just may not be playing in it.
I think it would great two see the two top teams playing in the fpc, it was great a couple of years ago when Pembroke and Brockville meet in the final after the year long battle they had. I think the cjhl has the chance to do that again if they had there tops teams being represented. I wish the best for Kanata but at this point it doesn't seem to be good.
look for either Dupuis or Philips to be shipped off to kanata as well.... i dont see sk keeping both of them happy together and kanata is truely missing a number one goalie to go in to fred page cup.
Look for an anouncment to come from SK on thursday. He just sent out a tweet.
Look for an anouncment to come from SK on thursday. He just sent out a tweet.
From what I see Milley has committed to PSU but from what I've been reading it's for 2012, looks to me SK is announcing the returms of Dupuis and Milley for next season. Milley would be a force to be recking with if he return, lets hope. It would be nice to hear of the other 7 players he has secured for the upcomming season aswell. Time will tell what the announcement will bring.
After watching Phillips play last year I truely believe he should have a change to be the number one goalie, it that being said no one can takeaway what Dupius did it the finals. Phillips was a steady goalie when playing everyday and Dupius was shakey at times and let alot of weaks goals in. I think Phillips with more time playing everday has a higher level then Dupuis in the long run.
You weren't at all the games Phillips played in then. He drops to his knees, raises his shoulders and turns his head. I am sure if we could see he probably closes his eyes as well. He needs work. From what I heard he wasn't the top tender at there camp last year. Greuhl wasn't either for that matter. A young local kid by the name of Matt Gagne, brother of Brandon Gagne, I heard put on quite the show at camp.
From what I see Milley has committed to PSU but from what I've been reading it's for 2012, looks to me SK is announcing the returms of Dupuis and Milley for next season. Milley would be a force to be recking with if he return, lets hope. It would be nice to hear of the other 7 players he has secured for the upcomming season aswell. Time will tell what the announcement will bring.
SK tweeted he had lunch on wednesday with Milley and supper with Dupuis. Time will tell.
You weren't at all the games Phillips played in then. He drops to his knees, raises his shoulders and turns his head. I am sure if we could see he probably closes his eyes as well. He needs work. From what I heard he wasn't the top tender at there camp last year. Greuhl wasn't either for that matter. A young local kid by the name of Matt Gagne, brother of Brandon Gagne, I heard put on quite the show at camp.
I haven't posted for quite a while but it seems to me that Phillips did prove himself (in taking the starting job from Gruel) right up until Dupuis arrived. A lot of that time the Kings were short many of the better players due to injuries when Phillips was the starter. Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't think he is a legit #1 as of right now but he has considerable potential. Yes, he's still raw but he can play in the league for two or three more years I believe.
You can't take a thing from Dupuis because he played his best when it mattered most. The question is: can he duplicate his performance in that one game over the course of 62 games?
As far as what S. Keefe will do next, well, look at the previous post. He met for supper with Dupuis which means Dupuis will get the choice of staying or leaving. In the end (next few weeks) I believe Dupuis will stay and Phillips will be moved. Phillips needs to develop and he won't be able to playing behind Dupuis. That said, Keefe could get a lot more for Dupuis than he could for Phillips if he put both goaltenders on the market. Time will tell. Keefe makes very few wrong decisions.
You weren't at all the games Phillips played in then. He drops to his knees, raises his shoulders and turns his head. I am sure if we could see he probably closes his eyes as well. He needs work. From what I heard he wasn't the top tender at there camp last year. Greuhl wasn't either for that matter. A young local kid by the name of Matt Gagne, brother of Brandon Gagne, I heard put on quite the show at camp.
To answer your question I was at all the home games and watch as much as I could of the aways games on-line. If you look at there stats Phillips are a little bit better and he didn't have the benefit as Dupius with having Miley,Just,Salituro,Peca and Reinhart for the majority of those games as Dupuis did. When going thru his stretch of games he was matching the number of Kourvarnis of the Colts. I like Dupuis, I just think in the long Phillips will be better.
GOALIES GP W L OTL SOL SO GA GAA SV SV%
Phillips, Jamie 33 25 6 0 1 6 66 2.13 691 .913
Dupuis, Francis 16 12 1 0 0 0 36 2.52 347 .906
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I think the same situation exists in brockville as well.... they can't keep both Betts and Gilbert.... betts deserves to be their go to guy. Look for Gilbert to be traded.
The word on the street is that Brockville has some good American prospects coming to the July camp, so it will be interesting to see what happens.
They have not really lost that much, when you look at what is returning.
Matheson also is off to the USHL next year now as well.
I think the same situation exists in brockville as well.... they can't keep both Betts and Gilbert.... betts deserves to be their go to guy. Look for Gilbert to be traded.
The word on the street is that Brockville has some good American prospects coming to the July camp, so it will be interesting to see what happens.
They have not really lost that much, when you look at what is returning.
Matheson also is off to the USHL next year now as well.
I agree with the goaltending situation in Brockville.
Although I think Brockville has lost a lot, the biggest loss is that of their coach, Todd Gill is a very good coach, not sure Hawkin's will be able to do as well, especially in his first season.
On the player front they lost their top defense, Wilson along with Robichaud and Collier. That only leave Dawson, Gingras and Strumas (who may nbot be returning). Up front they have lost their top 2 scorers in Dumond & Matheson.
No doubt they will have some good players in camp but the lure of playing for a former NHL player is gone so it may be tougher to get as many to committ as before.
MY bet is Brockville has a difficult time staying in the top 4.
Agree totally with Ottawa Guy. Not having Gill behind the bench might not be such a good drawing card. I'm sure Hawkins and Mayo are more than qualiried, but some parents just like their kids playing for that NHL guy. CCHL web page has Gingras committed to Maine for 2011. Is this correct does anyone know? I don't think B'ville will be bringing in any more US kids than anyone else. I heard half of CP's camp was from US, and I am sure there will be alot in Pemb and Corn. This is how these teams remain at the top every year.
Agree totally with Ottawa Guy. Not having Gill behind the bench might not be such a good drawing card. I'm sure Hawkins and Mayo are more than qualiried, but some parents just like their kids playing for that NHL guy. CCHL web page has Gingras committed to Maine for 2011. Is this correct does anyone know? I don't think B'ville will be bringing in any more US kids than anyone else. I heard half of CP's camp was from US, and I am sure there will be alot in Pemb and Corn. This is how these teams remain at the top every year.
I think that everyone has that concern now that Gilller is gone. Strumas does not look like he is returning, Robichaud is a loss- but Wilson isn't. He didn't look like much this past season. Having Dawson and Gingras back will be a good defence team to build around. Time for Skakum to step up and do what he is there to do as well. Dumond will be missed but Matheson had. A bit of a rocky season and was not consistent. Yes, leading scorer, but lots can step up to that.
As far as goalies go....the team has no confidence when playing in front of Gilbert. Gill gave him too many chances. It is a whole other team when Betts is in nets. Likely though, Hawkins will wait too long and everyone will already have a goalie and we will be stuck. It is not fair to Betts who plays a better game, to consistently perform, to be always overlooked for the lesser Gilbert.
It will be interesting for sure....Hawkins will need to run a tight ship to retain his position under the watchful eye of the Gills. Hopefully the boys didnt think this would be more lax with Gill gone.
To answer your question about Gingras- yes he will be back, the website has old info. He de-committed in February.
