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06-15-2011, 10:58 AM
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2011 NHL Entry Draft in Minnesota, 7 PM ET. ALL DRAFT TALK HERE

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With most teams trying to unload draft picks in the first round it speaks volumes about the players available in the top end (#1-#10).There is no guarantees with these picks, teams could end up with a lemon for their efforts.Better to try and get a trade for established players and let someone else draft try picking the player that will dominate the NHL in a few short years.

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With most teams trying to unload draft picks in the first round it speaks volumes about the players available in the top end (#1-#10).There is no guarantees with these picks, teams could end up with a lemon for their efforts.Better to try and get a trade for established players and let someone else draft try picking the player that will dominate the NHL in a few short years.
I think it has more to do with teams feeling the need to start putting up Ws more than anything.

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I think it has more to do with teams feeling the need to start putting up Ws more than anything.
Looking at the teams whose picks seem to be in play, you could be right.

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With most teams trying to unload draft picks in the first round it speaks volumes about the players available in the top end (#1-#10).There is no guarantees with these picks, teams could end up with a lemon for their efforts.Better to try and get a trade for established players and let someone else draft try picking the player that will dominate the NHL in a few short years.
We hear the same thing every year. It only makes sense for top 5 teams to see what they can get by trade, at the end of the day nothing big gets done because the teams at the bottom need top young players more than the other 20-25 teams not picking early.

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Or it could indicate that these teams, since they've been drafting high in recent years, are stacked with talented youth with potential and are in dire need of some veteran presence. Were I the GM of Edmonton, NYI or Columbus, I'd dangle my pick as well.

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No, it's these teams what good young talent with NHL experience already.

If you're a good team already just wanting to build your pool, then you keep your first as that's what you'll get.

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Using the ranking of THW http://thehockeywriters.com/2011nhld...nkings-top210/

If the Habs didn't move any picks they would get:

17-Rocco Grimaldi, C, USHL
77-Travis Ewanyk, LW, WHL
112-Max Shalunov, LW, KHL
137-Dillon Simpson, D, NCAA
167-Carter Sandlak, LW, OHL
197-Matt McNeely, G, USHL

I like that draft.

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Using the ranking of THW http://thehockeywriters.com/2011nhld...nkings-top210/

If the Habs didn't move any picks they would get:

17-Rocco Grimaldi, C, USHL
77-Travis Ewanyk, LW, WHL
112-Max Shalunov, LW, KHL
137-Dillon Simpson, D, NCAA
167-Carter Sandlak, LW, OHL
197-Matt McNeely, G, USHL

I like that draft.
Solid first 4 picks. Not crazy about the last 2, but that's a crapshoot.

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Here's the E-Mac report on Grimaldi

http://hockeyspy.blogspot.com/search...cco%20Grimaldi

"My take is that it will require a pretty confident and competent general manager to take Rocco Grimaldi as their first pick in the draft"

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If the Habs didn't move any picks they would get:

17-77-112-137-167-197-

Shouldn't it be 17th, 78th, 113th, 138th, 168th and 198th? There's an extra pick in the 2nd round which should bump everyone after 49th overall down one.

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Solid first 4 picks. Not crazy about the last 2, but that's a crapshoot.


Not sure if Craig Simpson as a Habs hockey dad is a good thing.

Shalunov seems like a pick they wouldn't make at this point.

Colin Sullivan was still on the board when they took Sandlak

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Shouldn't it be 17th, 78th, 113th, 138th, 168th and 198th? There's an extra pick in the 2nd round which should bump everyone after 49th overall down one.
But then NJD forfeits a pick in the 3rd.

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Not sure if Craig Simpson as a Habs hockey dad is a good thing.

Shalunov seems like a pick they wouldn't make at this point.

Colin Sullivan was still on the board when they took Sandlak
Pretty sure if Sullivan is still available at #137 the Habs will take him. They've gone "public" saying they liked him

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But then NJD forfeits a pick in the 3rd.
interesting, what's that for, the Kovalchuk contract?

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interesting, what's that for, the Kovalchuk contract?
Yes. They also have to forfeit a 1st round pick next year IIRC.

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Yes. They also have to forfeit a 1st round pick next year IIRC.
Yes & no. They have to forfeit a 1st round pick in 1 of the next 4 years.

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Yes & no. They have to forfeit a 1st round pick in 1 of the next 4 years.
Ah, that's right. I knew I was forgetting something

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Solid first 4 picks. Not crazy about the last 2, but that's a crapshoot.
Matt McNeely has some real interesting tools for a goaltender. But you can never tell with that position.

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What do you guys think of Anton Zlobin? 93 born/6ft/187lb with the Cataractes.
23g/45p in his full rookie season in NA.

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I am interested if anyone knows much about Ty Rattie. I realize he isn't big and he was on a stacked line. But it seems like he has some great hands and great hockey sense. Does anyone have any more input?

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What do you guys think of Anton Zlobin? 93 born/6ft/187lb with the Cataractes.
23g/45p in his full rookie season in NA.
Saw him play 3 times this season, and well, I had to look at him to even notice he was on the ice, has pretty good hands and a good shot, other then that, a big meh... I wonder if he will get drafted at all...

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I am interested if anyone knows much about Ty Rattie. I realize he isn't big and he was on a stacked line. But it seems like he has some great hands and great hockey sense. Does anyone have any more input?
Red Line touts him as the guy who makes Bartschi look good.

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Did anyone have any viewings of Marek Tvrdon? Played on a line with Cunningham and hab's Gallagher for 12 games before getting injured for the rest of the season. Any word on what's up with him?

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Saw him play 3 times this season, and well, I had to look at him to even notice he was on the ice, has pretty good hands and a good shot, other then that, a big meh... I wonder if he will get drafted at all...
No way. He's gotta be picked up early in the 3rd round.

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