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06-15-2011, 04:45 PM
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another variation on 9th overall

Some posts about trading 15th for 9th abound.
Would prefer to deal keeping the 15th, then with option to deal both 9th + 15th to move up.

Girardi has more established value, which NYR can replace from deep D base we must exploit.

Girardi,
NYR 2nds in 2012 AND in 2013
and 2 freebies Bourque, rights to Gilroy

for 9th overall (Boston from Toronto)
and Bruins first rounder in 2012 or 2013, Boston's choice...

Feedback....


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06-15-2011, 04:49 PM
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Some posts about trading 15th for 9th abound.
Would prefer to deal keeping the 15th, then with option to deal both 9th + 15th to move up.

Girardi has more established value, which NYR can replace from deep D base we must exploit.

Girardi,
NYR 2nds in 2012 AND in 2013
and 2 freebies Bourque, rights to Gilroy

for 15th overall (Boston from Toronto)
and Bruins first rounder in 2012 or 2013, Boston's choice...

Feedback....
I think I read this wrong.

Girardi, Rangers 2nd round picks in 2012 and 2013 plus Bourque and Gilroys rights

FOR

THE 15TH OVERALL PICK
Bruins 1st rounder in 2012 or 2013?

Ummm WE HAVE THE 15TH PICK. You mean the 9TH PICK?

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06-15-2011, 04:58 PM
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No. You don't give up a big part of your defensive corps for an unproven player. Just do BPA at #15.

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I would rather keep Girardi than move up the six spots.

I'm not sure why posters are looking to dump Girardi, he is 1/2 of our top D.

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I think I read this wrong.

Girardi, Rangers 2nd round picks in 2012 and 2013 plus Bourque and Gilroys rights

FOR

THE 15TH OVERALL PICK
Bruins 1st rounder in 2012 or 2013?

Ummm WE HAVE THE 15TH PICK. You mean the 9TH PICK?
Thank you, yes.
My error, corrected.

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I would rather keep Girardi than move up the six spots.

I'm not sure why posters are looking to dump Girardi, he is 1/2 of our top D.
I've been thinking the same thing, especially given how well he performed against the Caps in our playoff series.. it's a little silly. Players like Girardi don't grow on trees, we're lucky to have him.

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Thank you, yes.
My error, corrected.
When you're trade proposal is getting so intertwined you're confusing yourself, it's not a good idea. Nor is it a good idea when you're dealing with picks 2 and 3 years ahead.

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Dan Girardi is a very valuable asset. Trading him to move up a few spots in a wek draft doesn't make too much sense to me, especially considering that in each of the past what 3 drafts there were fallers that nobody really saw coming.

I think that's a really bad idea and the team should stay put at 15. There should still be a pretty good prospect there at that point. Maybe a better one that many of us think!

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I think the OP was stating we would make that trade and end up with the 9th and 15th overall.

As much as i would like to have two picks in the top 15, it really is piss poor asset managment giving up Girardi for a pick. If we are trading Girardi it better be in a bigger package for a top line forward

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I think the OP was stating we would make that trade and end up with the 9th and 15th overall.

As much as i would like to have two picks in the top 15, it really is piss poor asset managment giving up Girardi for a pick. If we are trading Girardi it better be in a bigger package for a top line forward
Trading Girardi for a pick would be very Milbury of Sather.

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Trading Girardi for a pick is awful asset management.

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Man, I don't understand the Girardi thing. Why do so many people include him in trade proposals? I understand that we have an excellent crop of young defenseman, but who is going to step up and cover for the 25 minutes per night that Danny plays? And realize that Girardi, despite his penchant for hits and blocking shots, has only missed two games in four years. That's almost unheard of for any defenseman in this age, let alone one that plays like Girardi.

Girardi has more value to us than what he would fetch in a trade. For us, playing with Marc Staal, they're a shutdown tandem that we can throw out there against anyone in the league. AND he's on a reasonable contract! Quit trying to move him. Maybe in another two years when the younger defenseman are pushing for a spot on the top pair, but not now. As I said, he's more valuable to us than he is on the trade market.

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Not interested in trading Girardi unless it's for a top 3 pick...not the 9th overall selection who will have all kinds of question marks. If we're going to include Dan in a deal it will be for a proven player who will help us now...not for a guy who may or may not help us 2 or 3 years down the road.

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This is terrible on so many levels

First off youre trading girardi who has proven he is a top pair dman and had an unbelievable playoffs.

and were getting the 9th pick in a weak draft

and we have a great history of great top 10 selections right

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Not only are these proposals bad, they are always inaccurate. Please just stop.

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There is no way Girardi gets moved just to slide up 6 spots in the draft.

I think even though the player we get may not be as good as the one available at #9 we could still get a very good player at #15.

To trade a shut down d-man for an unproven prospect makes no sense.

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There is no way Girardi gets moved just to slide up 6 spots in the draft.

I think even though the player we get may not be as good as the one available at #9 we could still get a very good player at #15.

To trade a shut down d-man for an unproven prospect makes no sense.
Completely agreed.

And congrats on shedding the Rebecca label, Rebecca.

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Completely agreed.

And congrats on shedding the Rebecca label, Rebecca.
Thanks Emma,

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Thanks Emma,
Can I get a cliff notes explanation on what is going on here lol

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So we trade a top pair NHL D man for a guy that's never played an NHL game.....

What'd I miss here?

No thanks. For that I'd rather have a very nice prospect that we will get at 15th overall.

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Some posts about trading 15th for 9th abound.
Would prefer to deal keeping the 15th, then with option to deal both 9th + 15th to move up.

Girardi has more established value, which NYR can replace from deep D base we must exploit.

Girardi,
NYR 2nds in 2012 AND in 2013
and 2 freebies Bourque, rights to Gilroy

for 9th overall (Boston from Toronto)
and Bruins first rounder in 2012 or 2013, Boston's choice...

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WHy in gods name do you include Girardi in a deal to move up a few spots and claim another 1st. That's horrific. An established 1st line player for 6 spots and a 1st? Oh and you're throwing in 2 2nds AND a prospect.

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I agree with everyone that says we shouldn't trade girardi. We aren't in a position where we can move him...but for the sake of argument lets say we are willing to move girardi...

i think boston would laugh at that offer. for girardi, 2 2nds and other crap you are getting the 9th overall pick AND a 1st rounder in 2012 which is said to be a very good draft?? That offer is probably not enough for the #9 pick by itself.

5 of the 6 bruins blueliners that just won the cup are still under contract next year. they don't need help on defense. why would they overpay for girardi like that?

this type of deal has a better chance of working with columbus at #8 cause they are desparate for blueliners and aren't run as well as boston lol.

Also i'll add that if we did pickup the 8th or 9th pick, I don't think i'd trade that pick and the 15th to move up. I think i'd stay there and hope to land 2 of the guys we are hoping to get at 15.

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