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08-24-2005, 03:33 PM
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New uncertainties with Owen Nolan--mojo radio reports

The following quote was gleaned from the mojoradio website.

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What happens if Owen Nolan is healthy come October 5th and his case hasn't been heard by an arbitraitor? From what I hear, he plays for the Leafs and any salary they pay him does not go against the salary cap. Doesn't seem to make sense, what happens if Nolan gets injured again? Quite the interesting situation.
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http://www.mojoradio.com/news/toronto_sports.cfm?cat=7428218912&rem=16470&red=80 121823aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=toronto_sports.cfm

The first and only words that come to mind when reading that announcement are "Holy Mackinaw"

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How the hell is he going to be healthy by October 5th?

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You've seen the last of Owen Nolan in a Leafs jersey.

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The following quote was gleaned from the mojoradio website.

Here is the link.

http://www.mojoradio.com/news/toronto_sports.cfm?cat=7428218912&rem=16470&red=80 121823aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=toronto_sports.cfm

The first and only words that come to mind when reading that announcement are "Holy Mackinaw"
They filed buy-out papers with the league.

Chain - yank - chain.

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The Leafs could definitely use a healthy Owen Nolan right now (if Lindros or O'Neill can play LW).

Nolan can be the scoring winger the Leafs so drastically need.

But I agree, after this injury squabble, Nolan's done as a Leaf.

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How the hell is he going to be healthy by October 5th?
Common sense and logic would seem to suggest that you have a greater chance of winning the lotto 649 on back to back Saturdays than of Owen Nolan ever playing another game let alone a shift for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

However, it is interesting to note that John Ferguson Jr. was quoted in the media today "I don't know" in response to a question from Joe Bowen regarding the future of Owen Nolan. That question was asked last night at the welcome back for the season ticket holders at the ACC.

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Asked just how much the Owen Nolan contract dispute was going to cost the team, Ferguson replied: "Not a cent," then, showing his lawyerly side, he added: "Frankly, we don't know where it goes from here."
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1124833812338&call_pag eid=1044442959412&col=1044442957278

Combine that information along with the fact that Mojo Radio isn't about to report something without having done it's research.

I think a more likely scenario would be that Nolan is recovered sometime before the end of the 2005-2006 season and before an arbitrator hearing has taken place. What happens then?

Nolan will not "officially" be an UFA until after the arbitrator hearings. So it's not just a matter of who cares.

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They filed buy-out papers with the league.

Chain - yank - chain.
Ferguson was quoted as having said a few weeks ago that the organization was under the belief that Maple Leafs didn't have to buy Nolan out because the option on his contract was void due to his injury. They feel they don't owe him a penny in buyout money or otherwise.

I'll look for the link on this. I believe it was on Mojo Radio as well.

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Combine that information along with the fact that Mojo Radio isn't about to report something without having done it's research.

Nolan will not "officially" be an UFA until after the arbitrator hearings. So it's not just a matter of who cares.
It has been reported the Leafs have an agreement with the league that it won't count against the cap regardless.

You are giving way too much credit to Mojo...

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Combine that information along with the fact that Mojo Radio isn't about to report something without having done it's research.
. . .


Thanks. That was the best thing I've read today. But seriously, I'm sure any station that would choose a name like "mojo" is very
reputable.

But seriously (really this time), we should all reserve comment on the Nolan situation until it actually resolves itself. Who knows? But I'm not worried about it. . .

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can owen nolano play in a wheelchair?

chiquita hot hot hot rumor - ponikarovskio for luongo


food for thought senoir - mojo espanol 1450

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The Leafs could definitely use a healthy Owen Nolan right now (if Lindros or O'Neill can play LW).

Nolan can be the scoring winger the Leafs so drastically need.

But I agree, after this injury squabble, Nolan's done as a Leaf.

Nolan is done. Injury or no injury. He went to seed in the layoff. His body is falling apart. I would rather have Sly's girlfriend from Rocky 1 on Sundin's wing.

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There's no way that Nolan will be healthy by then. And if he was, you can expect the case to be accelerated through to the arbitrator to avoid this problem.

The chances of Nolan suiting up and playing for the Leafs under these circumstances are zero. Too much legal stuff for that to happen.

Btw, the station isn't called Mojo anymore. They switched the name to 640 Toronto quite a while back.

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Nolan is done. Injury or no injury. He went to seed in the layoff. His body is falling apart. I would rather have Sly's girlfriend from Rocky 1 on Sundin's wing.
This just out. Sly's girlfriend's career stats. 213 goals, 345 assists and 5236 penalty minutes. Link to hockeydb.com not available at this time.

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Btw, the station isn't called Mojo anymore. They switched the name to 640 Toronto quite a while back.
Pity. It seemed to suit them.

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A)He just had surgery
B)We already filed buy out papers. It would be nice if Mojo knew what they were talking about once and awhile.

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Thanks. That was the best thing I've read today. But seriously, I'm sure any station that would choose a name like "mojo" is very
reputable.

But seriously (really this time), we should all reserve comment on the Nolan situation until it actually resolves itself. Who knows? But I'm not worried about it. . .
The name Mojo is a little much. And if they switched back to 640 Toronto that's good but they still haven't changed the name of their website.

Seriously, what makes them a non reputable source? Living in California I only read what they post on their website.

Hopefully this isn't too far off topic for this thread. But for those of you who have been around this forum for a while and live in Toronto, what sources in the media do you consider reputable?

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. . . Seriously, what makes them a non reputable source? Living in California I only read what they post on their website.
Well, you caught me.

I was mostly being silly. I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to Mojo because I found it obnoxious when I lived in Toronto.



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Hopefully this isn't too far off topic for this thread. But for those of you who have been around this forum for a while and live in Toronto, what sources in the media do you consider reputable?
Most of the major media source are reliable for concrete news items, such as so-and-so has signed. For scoops about who is talking to who behind the scenes, I trust Bob Mackenzie mainly because he is very cautious about what he reports.

For getting obscure facts correct, such as minute details of the CBA etc, I find almost everyone wildly unreliable (sometimes they're right, sometimes they're not, so therefore unreliable).

For analysis (of lineups and games) I find most of the Toronto-centric media to be hampered by cynicism and certainly no better than the better posters on these boards.

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God damnit Owen get over it man you'll never be a Leaf again.

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This was on the 640AM website
http://www.mojoradio.com/news/toronto_sports.cfm?cat=7428109912&rem=16679&red=80 110923aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=toronto_sports.cfm

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I contacted Owen Nolan's representatives yesterday about the recovery progress of Owen Nolan, and I received a "no comment" from the folks in Calgary. I wonder why the big secret? Now I don't know if I should send a get well soon card to Nolan, because for all we know he could be jogging up a storm by now, squatting a couple of hundred pounds. I was just trying to show that I care, pass the tissues.
We all know he will never play for the Maple Leafs again. But he keeps making the news.

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They filed buy-out papers with the league.

Chain - yank - chain.
I've never heard, or read anything that says that the Leafs have ever filed any buy-out papers ...in fact, i've only heard the exact opposite from JFJ ...that the Leafs were not buying out anyone.

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B)We already filed buy out papers. It would be nice if Mojo knew what they were talking about once and awhile.
Who is this "We"? ...I've read all the press releases, and listened to the interviews with mapleleafs management and never have i heard/seen anything about buy-out papers
...show me a source if you can, but you wont be able to find something legitimate since that doesnt exist.

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I've never heard, or read anything that says that the Leafs have ever filed any buy-out papers ...in fact, i've only heard the exact opposite from JFJ ...that the Leafs were not buying out anyone.
Not that I am disputing you ..

But last week JFJ was interviewed live on Leafs Lunch .. He directly said that they have covered themselves by filing buyout papers and the league has reassured them that NO matter of the out come of the case filed by Nolan the Leafs will not be effected cap wise by the result ..

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I've never heard, or read anything that says that the Leafs have ever filed any buy-out papers ...in fact, i've only heard the exact opposite from JFJ ...that the Leafs were not buying out anyone.
I heard they filed the necessary paperwork to buy him out, but since everything is on hold the league has said he doesn't count against the cap regardless (if he wins his case they buy him out at either 2/3 of this year or perhaps all of last year and (2/3 of this year or 100% of this year), but, if he loses his case no need to buy him out).

Regardless he won't count against the cap, but MLSE could be out some cash.

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Not that I am disputing you ..

But last week JFJ was interviewed live on Leafs Lunch .. He directly said that they have covered themselves by filing buyout papers and the league has reassured them that NO matter of the out come of the case filed by Nolan the Leafs will not be effected cap wise by the result ..
Was actually week before last. And the link proving it has been deleted. AM640 (mojo radio) has deleted the links to the "leafs updates" for that week which usually contain the leafs lunch recaps as well.

But Mess is correct. I read it online that Ferguson believes that the leafs have no obligation to Nolan since they think his option is void. But it was reported in the press that they have a deal with the league that if they are wrong about their position (i.e. they lose arbitration hearing) then they will be allowed to buy out Nolan without it counting against the cap.

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