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06-17-2011, 10:25 PM
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Rangers have not taken any RFA's to arbitration

Despite earlier reports that the Rangers would file for arbitration against one of their RFA's to get a 2nd buy-out period, they will not.

According to Zipay, no RFA's have been taken to arbitration.

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NYR did not take any of its key eligible RFAs (Dubi, Callahan, Boyle Sauer) to arbitation
Now he left out Anisimov, but I think he just forgot him, I think Anisimov fits into the "key RFAs" category.

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Pretty sure RB said Artie is not arb eligible.

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Pretty sure RB said Artie is not arb eligible.
Yes, this is true

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Pretty sure RB said Artie is not arb eligible.
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Good news.

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stevezipay Steve Zipay
Correct RT @nyrs_rangers: @stevezipay The Rangers have a 2nd club elected deadline of July 6 if the players don't file by July 5
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so there will be another potential opportunity to trigger the 2nd buyout window.

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Good news.
not saying its bad news but not sure what is good about it either...filing for arbitration protects against offer sheets, it guarantees a player will be signed one way or another, it opens a 2nd buyout window...and you can still negotiate a contract and avoid ever making it to the hearing

negatives are that arbitration would likely mean a shorter deal and hearings often result in players and team hating each other lol

i don't think i'd call it good or bad...

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You could read it as the Rangers anticipating that deals will get done with minimal acrimony.

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That's what I assumed.

They anticipated a deal getting done rather quickly and they didn't feel the threat of an off sheet.

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You could read it as the Rangers anticipating that deals will get done with minimal acrimony.
Which is nice to hear.

They may have already come to an agreement with some of our RFAs and informed them of the Drury/Richards situation as well. Wouldn't surprise me if we didn't see Callahan/Dubi's contract until camp so we can fit in Richards.

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You could read it as the Rangers anticipating that deals will get done with minimal acrimony.
well thats definitely a positive spin on it...hopefully thats the reason.

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Yeah, just being optimistic. For once.

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Steve Zipperhead with his mind numbing analysis

The Rangers will get a 2nd chance to file for club elected salary arbitration on July 6. Teams have 2 chances.

Those players have until July 5 to file for arbitration. If they are not signed by then,chances are really good that all of the arb eligible players will file.

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Later of June 15
or 48 hours after conclusion of
Stanley Cup Finals
Moratorium on New SPCs Begins
First Buy-Out Period Begins
Deadline for First Club-Elected Salary Arbitration
Notification (5:00 p.m. New York time)
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July 5 Deadline for Player-Elected Salary Arbitration
Notification (5:00 p.m. New York time)

July 6 Deadline for Second Club-Elected Salary Arbitration
Notification (5:00 p.m. New York time)

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not gonna lie not sure what this means,lol.............For a guy like Gilroy when do they decide if they are offering a contract or letting him become a UFA?

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not gonna lie not sure what this means,lol.............For a guy like Gilroy when do they decide if they are offering a contract or letting him become a UFA?
It means nothing. The real deadline is July 6th. If unsigned, they will file then.

Regarding Gilroy -- he becomes a UFA if the Rangers don't offer a qualifying offer. The deadline for qualifying offers is "no later than 5:00pm on June 25th or the first Monday after the Entry Draft of the final year of a Player's SPC." CBA Article 10(a)(ii). In this case, that would be June 27th at 5:00pm.

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There seems to be some confusion out there. RangerBoy has it right. The important dates are July 5th and 6th.

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not saying its bad news but not sure what is good about it either...filing for arbitration protects against offer sheets, it guarantees a player will be signed one way or another, it opens a 2nd buyout window...and you can still negotiate a contract and avoid ever making it to the hearing

negatives are that arbitration would likely mean a shorter deal and hearings often result in players and team hating each other lol

i don't think i'd call it good or bad...
Neither the team nor the athlete want to go to arbitration. The arbitrator is a neutral party who probably knows nothing about hockey. The team will tell more 'negative' things to the arbitrator to make the salary as low as possible, and no player wants to hear the bad things about his game. The player always wants his salary higher, which could frustrate the team he is employed by.

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06-18-2011, 09:34 AM
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We can all hope against hope that no one offer sheets Cally or Dubi.

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So with the cap being tight for the summer do most think Gilroy will become a UFA for sure?

They need every penny so why not just roll with Staal, Girarid, McD, Sauer, DZ, Erixon, Valentenko

Also as mentioned not al of the guys are on the summer cap for the full hit

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I can't remember when a team has ever elected in June to take a player to arbitration in late July. Usually teams wait until July. Why doesn't Lou just sign Parise already? The Devils ownership group gave Kovalchuk $100M which was $20M more than LA offered but they're playing games with Parise.

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We can all hope against hope that no one offer sheets Cally or Dubi.
I agree, we certainly can't afford to lose either one of them.

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So with the cap being tight for the summer do most think Gilroy will become a UFA for sure?

They need every penny so why not just roll with Staal, Girarid, McD, Sauer, DZ, Erixon, Valentenko

Also as mentioned not al of the guys are on the summer cap for the full hit


No I don't think he becomes UFA. He has trade value beyond what some here give credit for. It would be terrible asset management to let him walk.

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I wrote a blog entry on all the ins and outs of arbitration. I think it will answer all the questions. It can be found here. http://hfrangersblog.com/2011/06/18/...k-arbitration/

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No I don't think he becomes UFA. He has trade value beyond what some here give credit for. It would be terrible asset management to let him walk.

Then the Rangers would have to trade him before he needs to be qualified, and what team is going to qualify him at $2.1 million, or trade for him knowing that if they don't come to an agreement with him, he will become a UFA. He doesn't have value because of those two factors.

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I can't remember when a team has ever elected in June to take a player to arbitration in late July. Usually teams wait until July. Why doesn't Lou just sign Parise already? The Devils ownership group gave Kovalchuk $100M which was $20M more than LA offered but they're playing games with Parise.
Filing for Arb by Lou is strictly a protection maneuver. It gives him time (until August, effectively, when arb. hearings get scheduled) to reach an agreement with Parise. During that period, he can't entertain an offer sheet from another club.

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