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06-18-2011, 03:58 PM
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Have we all gone stupid with this nonsense about hes better than our current roster. None of us have watched an abundance of KHL games he's going to be 40, he knows if he can handle the NHL Anymmore.

Can we stop reliving the past?

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06-18-2011, 04:06 PM
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See i've been told today that Jagr is going to be a point per game player, and that he is going to be awful.

I've found the correct answer more often than not lies between the two extremes. 45-60 points for Jagr this year. Closer to 60 on the Wings, closer to 45 on the Habs.

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Jagr better be motivated if he signs in Montreal.

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06-18-2011, 04:14 PM
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Why in the world would he go to Montreal? Why would he want to deal with that?

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3 possible reasons

1. He wants to play for the biggest, loudest fanbase in all of hockey.

2. He wants to play with Plekanec

3. Gomez is so damn funny he cant stand to be away from him any longer.

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3 possible reasons

1. He wants to play for the biggest, loudest fanbase in all of hockey.

2. He wants to play with Plekanec

3. Gomez is so damn funny he cant stand to be away from him any longer
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Il put my money on that one. lmao

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3. Gomez is so damn funny he cant stand to be away from him any longer.
HAHAHAHAH.

Epic post.


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06-18-2011, 04:35 PM
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HAHAHAHAH.

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Gagne or Jokinen are much better fits at this point.
How so?

And just so it's know, I do not want Jagr back though it would be pretty cool. I want MZA in the line-up personally.

Regarding those 2 players, however, I would rather have Jagr at 62 with an oxygen tank and a $10 million price tag per year......................for 10 years.

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Gagne or Jokinen are much better fits at this point.
Of course they are. We are the Rangers. We like to target individuals who become incompetent once they're a Ranger. Why even attempt to sign Jagr who had success in New York and who obviously can still have an impact. Makes no sense.

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06-18-2011, 04:54 PM
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I would be the first to admit that I would love to have Jagr back.

But while Jokinen or Gagne clearly aren't as good as Jagr is they:

1) Fill a void on the LW

2) Are younger

3) Are more realistic as possible replacements

Jagr is a RW'er, something this team really doesn't need right now. Yes he is better than Gagne and Jokinen, but those two fill more of a need for the team.

Jagr isn't coming back to the Rangers, we need to cut those ties. I want him back more than anything but we have to understand that it's over and done with.

I really don't see any circumstance where this happens. I know we can make it work cap wise but I just don't see Sather going back to that.

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06-18-2011, 05:14 PM
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I would be the first to admit that I would love to have Jagr back.

But while Jokinen or Gagne clearly aren't as good as Jagr is they:

1) Fill a void on the LW

2) Are younger

3) Are more realistic as possible replacements


Jagr is a RW'er, something this team really doesn't need right now. Yes he is better than Gagne and Jokinen, but those two fill more of a need for the team.

Jagr isn't coming back to the Rangers, we need to cut those ties. I want him back more than anything but we have to understand that it's over and done with.

I really don't see any circumstance where this happens. I know we can make it work cap wise but I just don't see Sather going back to that.
Of course very true, we definatly do not need another right winger...but the bold interests me. If this is the case and these truely are players we are targeting, why would we bother getting rid of Wolski just to replace him with, essentially, Wolski at a longer term, and in Gagne's case, only able to play about 50 games.

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06-18-2011, 05:18 PM
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See i've been told today that Jagr is going to be a point per game player, and that he is going to be awful.

I've found the correct answer more often than not lies between the two extremes. 45-60 points for Jagr this year. Closer to 60 on the Wings, closer to 45 on the Habs.
Jagr's getting more than 50 points.

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06-18-2011, 05:29 PM
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Of course very true, we definatly do not need another right winger...but the bold interests me. If this is the case and these truely are players we are targeting, why would we bother getting rid of Wolski just to replace him with, essentially, Wolski at a longer term, and in Gagne's case, only able to play about 50 games.
I'm not advocating those two players specifically.

I like Jokinen and the jury is still out on him, but I personally want nothing to do with Gagne.

My whole point of using those two as examples is because they are both top 6 forward LW'ers (aka what this team really needs), Jagr on the other hand, as great as he is, doesn't really fill a void.

Yes he adds more scoring, and causes teams to change their strategy, but his presence creates a log jam.

Unless someone like Gabby or Cally could play LW so our top 6 would be:

Dubinsky - Richards - Gaborik/Jagr
Gaborik/Callahan - Anisimov - Jagr

Then that would be deadly. But his presence creates more of a log jam then it does fill a need.

It's a shame because I would have loved for him to come back.

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Jagr would have absolutely no problem shifting to LW.

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06-18-2011, 06:05 PM
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Jagr would have absolutely no problem shifting to LW.
Didn't he **** about being switched to LW at one time when he was here?

Or am I mis-remembering that?

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As long as he still has the weight along the boards, 68 welcome back with open arms. Wonder how it'd work with Gaborik.

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I'm not advocating those two players specifically.

I like Jokinen and the jury is still out on him, but I personally want nothing to do with Gagne.

My whole point of using those two as examples is because they are both top 6 forward LW'ers (aka what this team really needs), Jagr on the other hand, as great as he is, doesn't really fill a void.

Yes he adds more scoring, and causes teams to change their strategy, but his presence creates a log jam.

Unless someone like Gabby or Cally could play LW so our top 6 would be:

Dubinsky - Richards - Gaborik/Jagr
Gaborik/Callahan - Anisimov - Jagr

Then that would be deadly. But his presence creates more of a log jam then it does fill a need.

It's a shame because I would have loved for him to come back.
Yeah for sure dude I understand the RW/LW argument. That doesn't change the Wolski situation and, on top of that, I've never really believed that wingers were so locked into their position, be it the left or right, but then again, at this level of hockey, I cannot comment. I only know that I played right and left winger consistently, but thats definetly not the NHL.

I guess what I'm really gettin at once I cut the BS is that I think things would work out if they got Jagr and yes, people would move around, but it would work....................in theory.

Again, like I said before, the time has passed and we should be looking younger in my opinion and not older, no matter how great Jagr probably still is.

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I'd love Jagr back for 2-3.5 mil. If he can put up 20-30-50 for us, that would be fantastic,

Our lineup would be scary

Christian Thomas-Brad Richards-Marian Gaborik
Brandon Dubinsky-Artem Anisimov-Jaromir Jagr
Derek Stepan-Brian Boyle-Ryan Callahan
Brandon Prust-Mike Rupp-Sean Avery

Marc Staal-Daniel Girardi
Ryan McDonagh-Michael Sauer
Tim Erixon-Michael Del Zotto
Pavel Valentenko

That is a cup contender right there. I think Thomas is ready as well. Taylor Hall had around the same #'s in his last OHL season that Thomas had this year. I think he can not only make the team, but put up 50-60 points. People will be shocked with this kid.

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If drury doesn't retire or allow himself to be bought out, i think that i read somewhere that we need to spend a lot to make use of drury's cap space. not really too sure, but if that's the case couldn't jagr be the perfect solution to this problem. here's a player that i imagine is really only looking for a one year pay day type of deal, and we'd be able to afford that.

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I'd love Jagr back for 2-3.5 mil. If he can put up 20-30-50 for us, that would be fantastic,

Our lineup would be scary

Christian Thomas-Brad Richards-Marian Gaborik
Brandon Dubinsky-Artem Anisimov-Jaromir Jagr
Derek Stepan-Brian Boyle-Ryan Callahan
Brandon Prust-Mike Rupp-Sean Avery

Marc Staal-Daniel Girardi
Ryan McDonagh-Michael Sauer
Tim Erixon-Michael Del Zotto
Pavel Valentenko

That is a cup contender right there. I think Thomas is ready as well. Taylor Hall had around the same #'s in his last OHL season that Thomas had this year. I think he can not only make the team, but put up 50-60 points. People will be shocked with this kid.
Thomas is a RW. He is also still tiny - let the kid go back to the OHL and bulk up some more.

Let's also not sign Rupp and keep Boyle on the 4th line, please.

I'm not sure how you see a cup contender there, unless this is in the future and all of those players reached their max potential already. There's a LOT of question marks in that line up.

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I guess Jags and Scotty had more chemistry than it looked like....

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If drury doesn't retire or allow himself to be bought out, i think that i read somewhere that we need to spend a lot to make use of drury's cap space. not really too sure, but if that's the case couldn't jagr be the perfect solution to this problem. here's a player that i imagine is really only looking for a one year pay day type of deal, and we'd be able to afford that.
Since Drury is going on LTIR, the Rangers can spend an extra 8 million on the cap this summe. LTIR rules are that a team can spend an extra 1 million to help replace the player and then his cap hit is eliminated from the roster. Plus with Redden and the summer cap, the Rangers can spend up to 68.5 million (if the cap is 62.2 mil for next year) So theoretically, we can be 13.5 million over the cap and have it not effect us in anyway. That 13.5 million is eliminated opening day when Redden is demoted and Drury goes to LTIR. We are then at the salary cap.

So the Rangers can actually spend more now with this situation. If Drury spends the entire season on the LTIR, we are rid of his cap hit next July and will never see him of his cap hit in NY again.

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Since Drury is going on LTIR, the Rangers can spend an extra 8 million on the cap this summe. LTIR rules are that a team can spend an extra 1 million to help replace the player and then his cap hit is eliminated from the roster. Plus with Redden and the summer cap, the Rangers can spend up to 68.5 million (if the cap is 62.2 mil for next year) So theoretically, we can be 13.5 million over the cap and have it not effect us in anyway. That 13.5 million is eliminated opening day when Redden is demoted and Drury goes to LTIR. We are then at the salary cap.

So the Rangers can actually spend more now with this situation. If Drury spends the entire season on the LTIR, we are rid of his cap hit next July and will never see him of his cap hit in NY again.
thx for clearing that up. i've read so much cap lingo the past day that i just can't keep it all down.

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I'm not sure how you see a cup contender there, unless this is in the future and all of those players reached their max potential already. There's a LOT of question marks in that line up.
In the salary cap age, every team has question marks.

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