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06-20-2011, 01:19 AM
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If Frolik wants a sniff over $2.2, he can find someone to offer sheet him.

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I don't know about getting Versteeg back. Brouwer shouldn't be ahead of Smith on the depth chart. The end of the season showed who could step up and make TK's line better. That'd be sweet if Frolik would take that. I had him at that exact salary a few times, but it might be a hair low considering how high the cap is now.

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06-20-2011, 01:21 AM
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do not want versteeg back.
Why?

He is proven 45-55 pts LW option who can play solid defense

LW FA market is not that strong and Steeger is proven in Hawks system. We know what we will get from Versteeg. A sometimes streaky winger who can also be moved to our 3rd line with Bolland if Bickell continues to develop or if Frolik finds his offensive game next year

It gives us options

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06-20-2011, 01:22 AM
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If Frolik wants a sniff over $2.2, he can find someone to offer sheet him.
I guess. Who replaces him?

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Why?

He is proven 45-55 pts LW option who can play solid defense

LW FA market is not that strong and Steeger is proven in Hawks system
I wouldn't mind Steeger back if it didn't cost us too much. I would throw him with Bolland though - they had nice chemistry in the 2010 playoffs. Also it might not hurt to try Bickell with kaner and toews. If he can play with the heart and physical presence he showed in the playoffs, he would add a lot to that line.

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RFAs have little leverage and they carry a compensation cost for the offer sheet signing team, so their asking price goes up by much less than the cap %-wise. UFAs eat up much of the rise.

Frolik either wants to re-sign with the Hawks or he doesn't

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06-20-2011, 01:25 AM
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I wouldn't mind Steeger back if it didn't cost us too much. I would throw him with Bolland though - they had nice chemistry in the 2010 playoffs. Also it might not hurt to try Bickell with kaner and toews. If he can play with the heart and physical presence he showed in the playoffs, he would add a lot to that line.
I would love to continue to see a Bickell-Bolland-Frolik line.

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06-20-2011, 01:25 AM
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Why?

He is proven 45-55 pts LW option who can play solid defense

LW FA market is not that strong and Steeger is proven in Hawks system. We know what we will get from Versteeg. A sometimes streaky winger who can also be moved to our 3rd line with Bolland if Bickell continues to develop or if Frolik finds his offensive game next year

It gives us options
There's a reason he wasn't a priority before, why he got traded from toronto, and why he's likely going to be the first person the flyers dump. He tries to play at a higher level than he is capable. Constantly stickhandling, ugh, I hated watching him. He's like patrick kane with 1/3rd the ability but 4/3rds the audacity.

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Please make a play for Brooks Laich. I would love that. Maybe he'd take $3.8 million if Bowman could convince him he's a missing piece.

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I guess. Who replaces him?
Who cares? He has no leverage. I don't care what he did in Florida because he showed little since he's been here. Setoguchi got $1.8 after a 30 goal season. Even $2 mil is pushing it for Frolik.

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Please make a play for Brooks Laich. I would love that. Maybe he'd take $3.8 million if Bowman could convince him he's a missing piece.
Guys in their prime do not take 1 year deals. These guys want big money for extended periods of time.

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06-20-2011, 01:31 AM
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Please make a play for Brooks Laich. I would love that. Maybe he'd take $3.8 million if Bowman could convince him he's a missing piece.
I like Laich () but at 3.8, we could spend our money better elsewhere.

If we have the money to sign sign two great bottom 6 centers, I don't really think it'll matter as much if Bolland is our 2nd line center. He's got a bit of a scoring touch and with Hossa and Frolik/Bickell on his wings, I think he could do quite a bit. If not, no loss... put Sharp as our 2nd line center and try to find a trade to bring in a top 6 LW at the deadline.

The rest of that money could go towards re-upping Frolik, Campoli and filling out our bottom 6. With Laich on our roster, we could potentially face the same dread we did last year with our bottom 6 players.

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06-20-2011, 01:31 AM
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Offseason plan:

-Re-sign Frolik at $2.2 million per
-Re-sign Hendry at $600K
-Re-sign Johnson at $500K
-Sign Laich at $3.8 million per or sign Higgins at $2 million per and Reasoner at $1.8 million per
-Sign Fiddler or Belanger at $1.2 million per (only if we get Laich)
-Sign Asham at $830K
-Trade a 2nd and Danis-Pepin for Weaver

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06-20-2011, 01:36 AM
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Offseason plan:


-Re-sign Hendry at $600K
I don't see the point in resigning this guy again. I'd sooner try some other cheap 7th dman.

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06-20-2011, 01:39 AM
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I don't know who else will be available that cheap on the UFA market unless we'll roll with Scott.

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06-20-2011, 01:40 AM
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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m)
Ben Smith ($0.812m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.541m) / Chris Higgins ($2.000m) / Michael Frolik ($2.200m)
Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Marty Reasoner ($1.800m) / Arron Asham ($0.830m)
Ryan Johnson ($0.500m)

DEFENSEMEN
Duncan Keith ($5.538m) / Brent Seabrook ($5.800m)
Brian Campbell ($7.142m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Nick Leddy ($1.116m) / Chris Campoli ($1.600m)
John Scott ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Corey Crawford ($2.666m) / Alexander Salak ($0.612m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,223,837; BONUSES: $730,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $776,163

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I don't see the point in resigning this guy again. I'd sooner try some other cheap 7th dman.
A few reasons:

-He's played here as a #6 defenseman in the past and played just fine in limited ice time. Even in the playoffs, he didn't look overly fantastic or terrible.
-He's coming off an injury that required surgery and he could likely be re-signed cheaper than other 7th d-men. To add to that, he hasn't put up more than a handful of points here.
-He's been used as a forward as well, and hasn't done half bad there. Not your ideal 4th liner and certainly not someone you'd want to see there for more than a few games... but he's versatile.
-He knows our system and hasn't complained about being scratched often. He knows his role and fills it well
-He's young(ish) and is in very good shape. Our trainers rank our players' fitness at the beginning of every season... Hendry ranked 1st (before Keith) last year.

In short, he's a good 7th defenseman who will come cheap, knows our team and system and will handle his role like a professional. Sure we could sign a legit #5/6 defenseman and keep them as our 7th and bolster great defensive depth... but that will affect our roster elsewhere.

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A few reasons:

-He's played here as a #6 defenseman in the past and played just fine in limited ice time. Even in the playoffs, he didn't look overly fantastic or terrible.
-He's coming off an injury that required surgery and he could likely be re-signed cheaper than other 7th d-men. To add to that, he hasn't put up more than a handful of points here.
-He's been used as a forward as well, and hasn't done half bad there. Not your ideal 4th liner and certainly not someone you'd want to see there for more than a few games... but he's versatile.
-He knows our system and hasn't complained about being scratched often. He knows his role and fills it well
-He's young(ish) and is in very good shape. Our trainers rank our players' fitness at the beginning of every season... Hendry ranked 1st (before Keith) last year.

In short, he's a good 7th defenseman who will come cheap, knows our team and system and will handle his role like a professional. Sure we could sign a legit #5/6 defenseman and keep them as our 7th and bolster great defensive depth... but that will affect our roster elsewhere.

Where do you find a list like this?

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Where do you find a list like this?
I didn't see the actual list, but I do remember reading in an article that Hendry was ranked first... to my surprise, before Keith. I'll try to find it for you.

Edit: "11:19 am: At the training Q&A panel, strength and conditioning coach Paul Goodman says that every year, the coaching staff ranks the fitness of the entire team, and those rankings are made public. Last year’s winner for fittest Blackhawk? Jordan Hendry. Against guys like Duncan Keith and Jonathan Toews, that’s saying something."

from http://nhlblackhawks.wordpress.com/2...ks-convention/

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There's a reason he wasn't a priority before, why he got traded from toronto, and why he's likely going to be the first person the flyers dump. He tries to play at a higher level than he is capable. Constantly stickhandling, ugh, I hated watching him. He's like patrick kane with 1/3rd the ability but 4/3rds the audacity.
Hm, I loved watching him.

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With the cap floor rising I think the realistic possibilities of Campbell being traded open up.

If the team actually wants to move Campbell, teams like Florida that need to add a lot (in Florida's case, ~$30M) in payroll could be willing to take on Campbell's hit.

After all Campbell is still a good player, just paid a lot for a long time. A high salary/cap hit like his could help Florida reach their goal, they're trying to make the floor after all.


It's still not likely, just more realistic than before. Just saying.

That said with the extra cap room I think it's better to hang on to Campbell. In a few years with higher caps his cap hit will hardly be as bad as it seemingly is now.

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1. We don't need to move Campbell.

2. He has a NTC.

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Like BWC previously mentioned, now that Bowman knows what the cap ceiling is, expect him to start reasonable negotiating and hopefully get some deals done soon.

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Bowman better get Sharp signed.

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Give him a raise just over $1 million.

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