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06-20-2011, 06:26 AM
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The cap is suppose to be 64mill for next season

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TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
I'm told the upper limit of the 2011-12 NHL salary cap will be $64 million. The lower limit, or floor, will be $48 million.


What does this mean for the Habs. They could probably re-sign all Markov, Gorges, and Wisniewski.

They could possibly even look at Cole and Kopecky for free agents.

I would like to see this:

Cammalleri(6) Plekanec(5) Cole(3)
Pacioretty(1.5) Gomez(7.3) Gionta(5)
Kostitsyn(3.25) Eller(1.27) Kopecky(2.2)
Moen(1.5) White(650k) Darche(700k)

Desharnais(700k)

Markov(5) Emelin(987k)
Gill(2.25) Subban(875k)
Gorges(2.25) Wisniewski(4.9)

Spacek(3.83)/ Weber(800k)

Price(2.75)
Conklin(1.2)

Salary Cap - 64mill
Team Salary - 62.9mill

Cap Space - 1.1mill

With Gill, Spacek, Moen coming off the books after next season. That would be 7.58mill in cap space to give Price and Subban their raises. The cap could possibly going up again next season.


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TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
I'm told the upper limit of the 2011-12 NHL salary cap will be $64 million. The lower limit, or floor, will be $48 million.


What does this mean for the Habs. They could probably re-sign all Markov, Gorges, and Wisniewski.

They could possibly even look at Cole and Kopecky for free agents.
I posted this a month ago based on Philippe Cantin's article from La Presse. Its been discussed at large.

Just look at all the Habs next year threads, they were done with such a cap as we knew this info a month ago.

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That's about a mil or two more than the general consensus I think.

Good news for the big spenders. I'd throw that mil or two at the Wizard of Niewsky

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I think if the salary cap is going up that much, we should have a defense core of:

Markov - Wisniewski
Gill - Subban
Gorges - Yemelin

Spacek traded or put on waivers, Weber as the 7th defenseman or 13th forward.

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06-20-2011, 06:46 AM
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That's about a mil or two more than the general consensus I think.

Good news for the big spenders. I'd throw that mil or two at the Wizard of Niewsky
So would I. Bring back the Wiz, Pierre.

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06-20-2011, 07:39 AM
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We cand keep Wiz now, I believe?

We can't forget too that after next season there is the 3.6 and 1.5 mils that belong to Spacek and Moen coming off the books, give that money to Wiz and we're fine!

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Floor at 48 could be good for us!

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No matter how high the cap goes, if our GM can't grow a pair and actually take risks on the UFA/trade market, we'll not be any better than last season. Once again, it would not even surprise me the slightest if he opted to sign Pouliot and Hamrlik, bring back the exact same group as last season, add a Belanger and call it an offseason. That's how stupid and desillusional he is. I wish we had a critic management capable of bringing improvements to the weaknesses of our team. But I'm not holding my breath. I'm waiting for some more excuses, once again.

I expect we'll be wasting all of our cap space on the same group of players as last season, even if they're aging, getting slower and weaker for the most part on defense, and even if we are depending on two headcases for our scoring.

Don't ask yourselves why Boston did win the Cup. Thomas sure helped, but when you have Peverley, Seguin and Ryder for secondary scoring, and Krejci, Bergeron, Recchi, Horton, Lucic and Marchand on your top-6, you're on a whole other level than a team having guys like Pouliot, Kostitsyn and Gomez as primary scorers.

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06-20-2011, 07:49 AM
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going on cap geek ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

man that cap floor is gonna be hard to get to for a team like Florida (given they are rebuilfing again)


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Damn those players make a lot of dough.

$50 000 in critical home repairs or emergency medical bills is like pocket change to them.

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I vote the mods give out infractions to the next person who says we should waive Spacek and put him in the minors. Spacek counts on the cap no matter what, please people, understand that concept before you post.

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Yes, please stop posting that we'll waive or trade Spacek...its not happening. Besides he's on the hook for one more year only. Next year, you can give most of his salary to Price and some to Subban.

Coming off the books next year:
Spacek- 3.83 million
Laraque buy out- 500k
Hal Gill (if we don't need him anymore..)- 2.25 million

That's 6.58 million

Give 3 million to Carey Price, so 2.75 (he's making now) + 3 million...5.75 per year should get it done for 5 years. Give most of the rest to PK Subban 5 years at 18-20 million.

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I vote the mods give out infractions to the next person who says we should waive Spacek and put him in the minors. Spacek counts on the cap no matter what, please people, understand that concept before you post.
You're correct but you'd still have to put Spacek in the minors in order to play your top 6 defensemen. He wouldn't get a chance to play so meh, send him down, so he gets playing time.

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I vote the mods give out infractions to the next person who says we should waive Spacek and put him in the minors. Spacek counts on the cap no matter what, please people, understand that concept before you post.
If we could sign a defense corps of:

Markov-Gorges
Gill-Subban
Hamrlik-Wisniewski
Emelin-Weber...

Then I would cheerfully waive Spacek and put him in the minors. Although it would be nice if some team opted to pluck him on waivers before he reached the minors. But if not, that's a pretty good #9 guy to be able to call on when the inevitable string of injuries hits. We wouldn't have to trade our draft picks for Sopels and Maras.

Still leaves us $3.2M to top up some of those d-salaries and add the extra forward, etc.

Waiving Spacek and sending him to the minors is still a valid option, even with his cap hit still counting, and many of us have been saying that for awhile. So no automatic infractions for those who propose it.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Max Pacioretty ($1.000m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Andrei Kostitsyn ($3.250m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m)
Mathieu Darche ($0.700m) / Lars Eller ($1.270m) / Ryan White ($0.550m)
Tom Pyatt ($0.550m) / David Desharnais ($0.600m) / Travis Moen ($1.500m)

DEFENSEMEN
Jaroslav Spacek ($3.833m) / P.K. Subban ($0.875m)
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Alexei Yemelin ($0.984m)
Hal Gill ($2.250m) / Yannick Weber ($0.600m)
Roman Hamrlik ($2.500m) / Josh Gorges ($2.400m)
/ James Wisniewski ($4.500m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($2.750m) / Alex Auld ($1.000m)

BUYOUTS: Georges Laraque ($0.500m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,720,509; BONUSES: $400,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,279,491

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Why would we need 9 top 6 defencemen...?

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going on cap geek ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

man that cap floor is gonna be hard to get to for a team like Florida (given they are rebuilfing again)
Gomez to Florida?? Won't be the first time that has been suggested on boards. Only question is who would be brought in to replace him?

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The Wiz made that cap go up. With his magic hat and all.

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The Wiz made that cap go up. With his magic hat and all.

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Gomez to Florida?? Won't be the first time that has been suggested on boards. Only question is who would be brought in to replace him?
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This will fuel the people that want to trade Gomez and Spacek.

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If the salary cap continues to go up, are they going to have to raise the value of rookie contracts at some point? (Not really sure how this part of the biz works)

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No excuses now not to retain both Markov and Wisniewski.

Make it happen Gauthier.

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Our Defense will be explosive. We will have 3 offensive D-Men. Imagine with Berger coming to MTL in 2 years or so. Creating traffic in front of the net with point shots from Subban,Markov and Wiz.

HELLO CUP

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The higher the salary floor gets, the easier it will be to move guys who's cap hit is substantially larger than their actual salary, especially if they can actually contribute on the ice. My theory has been that Gomez becomes tradeable by the deadline next season, this only makes me all the more hopeful. Not that we'd get anything at all in return, and also as terrible as he's been, top-6 centers are hard to come by and even his craptacular effort would be fairly hard to replace.

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If we could sign a defense corps of:

Markov-Gorges
Gill-Subban
Hamrlik-Wisniewski
Emelin-Weber...

Then I would cheerfully waive Spacek and put him in the minors. Although it would be nice if some team opted to pluck him on waivers before he reached the minors. But if not, that's a pretty good #9 guy to be able to call on when the inevitable string of injuries hits. We wouldn't have to trade our draft picks for Sopels and Maras.

Still leaves us $3.2M to top up some of those d-salaries and add the extra forward, etc.

Waiving Spacek and sending him to the minors is still a valid option, even with his cap hit still counting, and many of us have been saying that for awhile. So no automatic infractions for those who propose it.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Max Pacioretty ($1.000m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Andrei Kostitsyn ($3.250m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m)
Mathieu Darche ($0.700m) / Lars Eller ($1.270m) / Ryan White ($0.550m)
Tom Pyatt ($0.550m) / David Desharnais ($0.600m) / Travis Moen ($1.500m)

DEFENSEMEN
Jaroslav Spacek ($3.833m) / P.K. Subban ($0.875m)
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Alexei Yemelin ($0.984m)
Hal Gill ($2.250m) / Yannick Weber ($0.600m)
Roman Hamrlik ($2.500m) / Josh Gorges ($2.400m)
/ James Wisniewski ($4.500m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($2.750m) / Alex Auld ($1.000m)

BUYOUTS: Georges Laraque ($0.500m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,720,509; BONUSES: $400,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,279,491
Awful offense...

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