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06-20-2011, 10:55 AM
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We shouldn't be signing any d-men for more than (let's say) $2M a year. In reality it should be less. We need to spend money on scoring forwards!!! Erhoff is the least of what this team needs.

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06-20-2011, 11:02 AM
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We could do worse, but we could also do a whole lot better...

If he comes on a crapingly cheap contract then he's welcome..if not...NeXT....

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06-20-2011, 11:09 AM
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I like Ehrhoff and think he was playing with an injury in the finals because that was not the norm for him. I wouldn't pay the price he'll likely still get on the open market, but I would definitely take him if he were on a good contract.

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06-20-2011, 11:12 AM
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Jesus. We have so many dmen in the pipeline that we are going to be forced to trade some of them at some point... We can't score goals on a consistent basis.

Need to get more D?

No.

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06-20-2011, 11:30 AM
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i want erhoff in nyr.

so you guys dot wabt the sedins in the team
only cuz the sucked in the SCF?
The Sedins are great point producers who are unable to take their game to the next level. So if all the sedins do is help get you home ice advantage then i'll pass.

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06-20-2011, 11:35 AM
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I don't know if I'd call him a bum but that's just me. A decent player who got fluffed up by playing on talented teams. Not a fit in NY because he's more of a secondary player and he'd be asked to play a primary role. Another square peg in round hole situation.

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06-20-2011, 12:08 PM
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Our D-core is fine, Focus on offense

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06-20-2011, 01:07 PM
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We have very limited cap space and our forward problems are much more severe than any issues on our defense, especially on the left side.

We don't need to waste cap space to create excess on LD when we are so lacking up front.

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06-20-2011, 04:52 PM
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I am going to pass as well.

If you asked me a couple of weeks ago I would say most definitely.

But watching him in the Finals, coupled with the price tag he is going to command, we'd be smart to spend that money elsewhere.

Ehrhoff is a good player, very inconsistent and his defense is suspect at times.

He is probably a PP guy mainly at best.

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06-20-2011, 06:13 PM
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van fans blame ehrhoff for their bad D in the final series.

do not want.
Vancouver has the best PP in the NHL. Huge difference between their standpoint and ours.

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06-20-2011, 06:14 PM
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Our D-core is fine, Focus on offense
I am focusing on offense. Ehrhoff puts up 50 points. We haven't had a 50 point Dman since Leetch.

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06-20-2011, 06:16 PM
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I am focusing on offense. Ehrhoff puts up 50 points. We haven't had a 50 point Dman since Leetch.
But he would be the defensive whipping boy around here.

Remember how we could always predict before the play ever happened when Rosy would pinch and get caught flat-footed?

I would be like that all over again, the only difference is Ehrhoff has more offensive skill.

He would strictly be a offensive defensemen, and at the price of 5-5.5/year year it is not worth it.

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06-20-2011, 06:17 PM
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I understand the argument about risk/money. What I don't understand is some people saying we don't need him. An offensive defensemen has been our biggest demand for 8 years now.

In what conceivable way does Ehrhoff possibly not fit our demands? I just don't see it at all

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06-20-2011, 06:19 PM
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Just for the record, Ehrhoff played with a pretty injured shoulder in the finals, which is why he looked worse than he usually did. I'm pretty sure every defenseman the Canucks had, sans Sami Salo, had some type of injury.

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06-20-2011, 06:20 PM
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But he would be the defensive whipping boy around here.

Remember how we could always predict before the play ever happened when Rosy would pinch and get caught flat-footed?

I would be like that all over again, the only difference is Ehrhoff has more offensive skill.

He would strictly be a offensive defensemen, and at the price of 5-5.5/year year it is not worth it.
I honestly thought Rozsival was worth it it when he was putting up close to 40 points. The problem with Rozsival in my opinion is that his offense went, not his defense. I think the whole name of the position is misleading and I don't think a defensemen necessarily has to be great defensively. It's a two way position just like every other position. We already have Staal, Girardi, McD, and Sauer to go the way of defense. Ehrhoff could go the way of offense. It's complementing our weaknesses, that's why it's a team sport.

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I understand the argument about risk/money. What I don't understand is some people saying we don't need him. An offensive defensemen has been our biggest demand for 8 years now.

In what conceivable way does Ehrhoff possibly not fit our demands? I just don't see it at all
Because we'd be more willing to fork out that kind of money if he wasn't so one dimensional.

He is exactly what we need, a offensive defensemen who is good on the PP, but it always comes back to price, and at the price it would take to get him, we are still not sure what kind of offensive ability he can consistently bring.

Is he stats a product of playing with a powerhouse team? (because he really wasn't as good in SJ)

Or is he actually a really good offensive defensemen.

I think the jury is still out.

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06-20-2011, 06:24 PM
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Because we'd be more willing to fork out that kind of money if he wasn't so one dimensional.

He is exactly what we need, a offensive defensemen who is good on the PP, but it always comes back to price, and at the price it would take to get him, we are still not sure what kind of offensive ability he can consistently bring.

Is he stats a product of playing with a powerhouse team? (because he really wasn't as good in SJ)

Or is he actually a really good offensive defensemen.

I think the jury is still out.
Right but you're talking about price. I understand the price issue. I'm just saying he fits a need on this team. Whether or not you're willing to pay his price tag to fill that need is your prerogative, but he would fill a need.

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06-20-2011, 06:26 PM
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Right but you're talking about price. I understand the price issue. I'm just saying he fits a need on this team. Whether or not you're willing to pay his price tag to fill that need is your prerogative, but he would fill a need.
But as I also said I'm not really sure if he fills a need.

He was a good player in SJ, but a very good player in VAN.

So is he really the great offensive d-men we all think he is or is he just the product of a good team.

I'm not sure how effective he would be with us, because we aren't as good as VAN yet.

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06-20-2011, 06:39 PM
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he's gonna make too much $$ for too many years for it to make sense for us with drury still counting against the cap. we need to spend the $$ on forward upgrades

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06-20-2011, 07:13 PM
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he's gonna make too much $$ for too many years for it to make sense for us with drury still counting against the cap. we need to spend the $$ on forward upgrades
God I hope not

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06-20-2011, 07:17 PM
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God I hope not
there is no hope about it. he's hurt and we can't buy him out according to brooks. he is on the cap until the season starts and he can go on LTIR

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06-20-2011, 07:18 PM
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there is no hope about it. he's hurt and we can't buy him out according to brooks. he is on the cap until the season starts and he can go on LTIR
Well if this team has any hope of being in the Richards hunt something has to be done about Drury.

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Well if this team has any hope of being in the Richards hunt something has to be done about Drury.
You really need to read the Drury thread, or the cap thread.

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You really need to read the Drury thread, or the cap thread.
or any other thread LOL

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Even if it fits, I'm still leery of bringing in an 8 mil while we're unsure of a 7.5 mil in dead weight.

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