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06-21-2011, 12:56 PM
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Will P.K. Subban go through a sophomore slump?

A lot of rookies go through a sophomore slump. Do you believe Subban will go through one? Or can he break the curse?

Will P.K. Subban go through a sophomore slump?

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One could say his slump was the bad stretch he had through the middle of last year.

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I was actually talking to a friend about this. I think he will have a disappointing season. Good start and then off the rails.

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A lot of rookies go through a sophomore slump. Do you believe Subban will go through one? Or can he break the curse?

Will P.K. Subban go through a sophomore slump?
I think he sort of did in October and November. Having Gill plus hopefully a healthy Markov and solid depth on the blueline should help us deal with any sophmore slump.

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He's got too much swag to hit a slump.

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IMO, many sophomore slumps are the result of players being relied on to play against tougher opposition than in their rookie seasons. See Bogosian in Atlanta this year, or Richards and Carter in 06-07. If the Habs want to protect Markov and Gorges to start the season, then yeah, I can definitely see an adjustment period for PK. I think he'll come out of it relatively smoothly, he's done well in stints against top competition already - but over a long stretch of games, with an aging Gill as his partner, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes through some rough patches.

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He already did. They benched him and everything. Not to say he wont have one or more slumps next year, but he had the most intense rookie experience possible (or close to) the year before last. In many ways his struggles last season were texbook sophmore adjustment IMO.

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Can't see it happening with PK. I don't necessarily expect a huge point production season but I expect he has a steady one, the guy is too good to slide backwards imo.

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He could go through one. However, knowing P.K., even if he's not getting the points up, he will still use his body and fight in the corners like he does all the time so it would definitely go unnoticed.

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I could see him having some defensive slumps but I don't think he'll struggle at all offensively.

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Too much of a character guy to have a slump. He's not a ***** here. He knows he has the whole city behind him. Mike Richards and Lecavalier will have even more difficulty playing against him next year.

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I could be wrong, but I just don't get the sense that he will. I have no doubt he (and every other player) will have some rough patches at times next year, but a Sophomore Slump suggests and overall underwhelming season and he just doesn't strike me as the type of person that will allow that to happen. Too much swag.

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slumps are for mortals

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I was actually talking to a friend about this. I think he will have a disappointing season. Good start and then off the rails.
I think opposite. Slow first half, killer second.

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with a healthy D line to start this year i just cant see him slumping .. kid has alot of drive and heart

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While it's possible, I just can't see Subban putting up lower numbers than last year with Markov beside him on the PP. I fully expect to see Subban continue to improve defensively, specifically on the little things as he matures and continues to learn on the job.

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His goal production could be hindered by not re-signing Wisniewski.

Teams overplaying the Wiz really opened up space for PK's shot. That being said, he could potentially have Markov feeding him the puck on the PP now. Historically Markov's needed a left handed shot on the receiving end for it to be really effective, but he's also never played with a d-man with as much raw talent as Subban.

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I dont think so

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I suspect a lot of "sophomore slumps" are due to rookie players being given more responsibility in their second years and naturally not doing as well with tougher assignments, even if they're not playing any worse per se.

In Subban's case, however, he can't get much tougher assignments than what he was getting at the end of the year.

Another leading cause of "sophomore slumps" is really good small samples during the rookie season, but Subban played plenty of minutes.

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I doubt it, he's played enough and knows how things work.

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Maybe. His sheer physical tools make it hard for him to slump really, add that with his edge and energy. I mean he had about maybe at the most, 10 bad games this year in his rookie season. This kid is a stud, I can't really see it happening.

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Play him with Markov and I'm pretty sure he won't.

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Tyler Myers, who i thought was for sure the type to avoid one had one. I wouldn't be surprised. hopefully not though, I think the Boston cup win has lit an extra fire under everyones arse...

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Tyler Myers, who i thought was for sure the type to avoid one had one. I wouldn't be surprised. hopefully not though, I think the Boston cup win has lit an extra fire under everyones arse...
Myers still ended up turning his season around to a certain degree though, he also lost his veteran defense partner to free agency and it clearly had an impact on him. Another reason why retaining Gill is a good depth move by the Habs, regardless of what his detractors might have to say he and Subban make a formidable pairing on the ice. Not saying they should play together, but atleast it's a card in our deck.

I, like many others around here think his "sophomore slump" actually occured in November/December of 2010. He had the best playoff performance from a rookie defenseman in a long time, and he had a quick start at the beginning of the year tallying 11 points in 22 games, not to mention like a +7 rating or something like that. He was on top of the world and EVERYONE was talking about him, then he hit his major slump and ended up riding the pine.

Not to repeat anyone in the thread, but usually sophmore slumps are related to increased responsibility (PK can't possibly take more, he was already our #1 in the second half), players learning your tendencies (which may indeed happen, but Subban is uber-talented and creative, he will easily adapt), and the other problem is complacency. I think that may have been the problem with him last season during his bad stretch, the bright lights we're on him and he got the image that he had made it.

He's been through the rough patch with the help of his team mates and coaching staff, he's responded in spades. We already know he is training hard this summer, various sightings in the gyms and his constant twitter updates to back that up. He isn't going into next season complacent.

I fully expect him to have "slumps", 5-6-7 games, just like any other player in the NHL has throughout the 82 game grind. As for an underwhelming season as a whole? I wouldn't bank on it.

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Hell no ...I mean were talking about pk.subban dude will be so pump up for next season with pacio and all the young core. #SWAG

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