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06-21-2011, 02:34 PM
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Rangers are without a plan coming into the draft

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/

Very good read.

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Even the Rangers have no clue who to pick in this cluster****

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“So many of us use that,” Clark said. “It’s not deep and what I mean by it is there are not difference makers or impact players at positions. I would say everybody has the first seven or eight guys. Everybody probably has the same guys but it might be in different orders. If Edmonton thinks they need an offensive defenseman it’s not a situation where you’re going, ‘Oh, my God, what a mistake not taking Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.’ Somewhere after seven, eight guys, you might not get that impact player. You’re going to get some good NHLers. You may just not get an impact guy at the position.”
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Even the Rangers have no clue who to pick in this cluster****
Well, more likely they have a ranking, but are unsure who will fall where, and they don't have one guy they REALLY want like they did last year

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The player whose name would give Rosen fits to say is the player the Rangers should draft.

Do it for the lulz.

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Great quote.
IB someone says how this draft is not bad.

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IB someone says how this draft is not bad.
I agree. Its terrible. The funniest thing though is I read an article the other day about how it could be comparable to the 03 draft.

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I think they counted wrong.

It's more comparable to the '99 draft.

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I agree. Its terrible. The funniest thing though is I read an article the other day about how it could be comparable to the 03 draft.
Hahaha, I read that too...

I'd be thrilled if that turned out to be the case, but given our track record - the last thing I want is a 2003 repeat.

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I agree. Its terrible. The funniest thing though is I read an article the other day about how it could be comparable to the 03 draft.
So we'll draft a fat kid?

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IB someone says how this draft is not bad.
So the draft is bad, but at #15 we're looking at Tyler Biggs, who in your own words, has 55-60 point upside and serious mean streak?

There's a serious difference between "bad" and "lacking depth." This one is the latter, and that's pretty clearly what Clark said in his quote. I'm not sure why you're so hellbent on blurring the line between the two.

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I agree. Its terrible. The funniest thing though is I read an article the other day about how it could be comparable to the 03 draft.
That's next year's.

This is a terrible draft, which is why I'm so glad we got a top 10 pick in Erixon for 2 2nd's. Hoping for someone who can just score goals this year. I wouldn't be unhappy if they went off the board for Puempel at all

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I am cool with them trading down for more picks later on

1st for late first, 2nd ,4th for example

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I am cool with them trading down for more picks later on

1st for late first, 2nd ,4th for example
I was thinking the same thing, but if the draft is as bad as its being made out to be maybe were better off trading the pick for a player.

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“So many of us use that,” Clark said. “It’s not deep and what I mean by it is there are not difference makers or impact players at positions. I would say everybody has the first seven or eight guys. Everybody probably has the same guys but it might be in different orders. If Edmonton thinks they need an offensive defenseman it’s not a situation where you’re going, ‘Oh, my God, what a mistake not taking Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.’ Somewhere after seven, eight guys, you might not get that impact player. You’re going to get some good NHLers. You may just not get an impact guy at the position.”

Wait, you mean Gordie Clark agrees with my crazy, crazy thoughts that we are highly unlikely to pull an impact player at #15 in a weak draft where the fall-off happens at #7-8... at least not unless we go high-risk, high-reward for someone who fell out of the top 7-8 because he was injured or small?

You mean he realizes that McNeill is likely to be another Malhotra and not another Getzlaf or even another Dubinsky? Did he forget to check in with the experts on this forum?


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This is an okay draft but I hope to god they draft Grimaldi or Nieto. TSN has the Rangers drafting Armia, no thanks korpikoski v2.0 in my eyes.

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HF predicts the Rangers to grab Biggs at the 15th spot.

Don't really know how happy I am with that.

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George McPhee wasen't very excited about this years crop either. Seems to be the theme of this class.

Gotta wonder if any of these guys are playing dirty pool. Downplaying the caliber of it's prospects, maing other GM;s think that they are going a different route then grabbing ther guy people thought they passed on?

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I agree. Its terrible. The funniest thing though is I read an article the other day about how it could be comparable to the 03 draft.
Burke said that. One of the Leafs fans (mod maybe?) has it as his quote.

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Burke said that. One of the Leafs fans (mod maybe?) has it as his quote.
No wonder why he has so many picks this year

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HF predicts the Rangers to grab Biggs at the 15th spot.
Great, so we get another Prust.

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So the draft is bad, but at #15 we're looking at Tyler Biggs, who in your own words, has 55-60 point upside and serious mean streak?

There's a serious difference between "bad" and "lacking depth." This one is the latter, and that's pretty clearly what Clark said in his quote. I'm not sure why you're so hellbent on blurring the line between the two.

His 55-60 point upside is an absolute maximum if he exceeds all expectations. More realistically, we are looking at someone who will score 20-30 points per season or even less than that on the 4th line.

If Biggs becomes as good as Prust, we should be happy.

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Great, so we get another Prust.
Might be the best we can hope for at 15 and no 2d or 3d rounders. But look at it this way, McDonagh was a top pick if I remember correctly and Erixon would probably be a top 10 this year. So if we end up with a younger bigger Prust, I'd be happy as we seem to have got a lot of great talent from pretty middle of the road draft positions through crafty asset management.

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as long as they know they're not gonna pick another defenseman, then idc that they don't really have plans atm

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