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06-21-2011, 02:37 PM
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Dean Lombardi

Ok so i am trying to get a better understanding of what everyone things of DL.

Do you think he is the GM that can lead us to the cup?

What do you think of the job he has done do far.

I know him not being abble to land the big fish has been an issue but wanted to visit that he has done and not done since he has been here.


2006

2006 NHL DRAFT

11 Jonathan Bernier
17 Trevor Lewis
48 Joey Ryan
74 Jeff Zatkoff
86 Bud Holloway
114 Niclas Andersen
134 David Meckler
144 Martin Nolet
164 Constantin Braun

2006 Signings

Alyn McCauley 29 Signed 3 years
Rob Blake 36 Signed 2 years $12M
Scott Thornton 35 Signed 2 years $3M
Brian Willsie 28 Signed 2 years

FA that Summer.

Martin Havlat 25 Signed Chicago (via trade) 3 years $18M
Alex Tanguay 26 Signed Calgary (via trade) 3 years $15.75M
Jason Arnott 31 Signed Nashville 5 years $22.5M
Zdeno Chara 29 Signed Boston 5 years $37.5M
Ed Jovanovski 30 Signed Phoenix 5 years $32.5M
Marc Savard 28 Signed Boston 4 years $20M
Pavel Kubina 29 Signed Toronto 4 years $20M
Joffrey Lupul 22 Signed Edmonton 3 years 20 million ( Ristricted FA )

2006 Trade

To Minnesota Wild

Pavol Demitra

To Los Angeles Kings

Patrick O'Sullivan
1st round pick in 2006
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To Vancouver Canucks

2nd round pick in 2007
Conditional pick in 2009

To Los Angeles Kings

Dan Cloutier
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To Carolina Hurricanes

Tim Gleason
Eric Belanger

To Los Angeles Kings

Jack Johnson
Oleg Tverdovsky
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To Calgary Flames

Craig Conroy

To Los Angeles Kings

Jamie Lundmark
4th round pick in 2007
2nd round pick in 2008
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To New York Rangers

Sean Avery
John Seymour

To Los Angeles Kings

Jason Ward
Marc-Andre Cliche
Jan Marek
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To Vancouver Canucks

Brent Sopel

To Los Angeles Kings

2nd round pick in 2007
4th round pick in 2007
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To Dallas Stars

Mattias Norstrom
Konstantin Pushkarev
3rd round pick in 2007
4th round pick in 2007

To Los Angeles Kings

Jaroslav Modry
2nd round pick in 2007
3rd round pick in 2007
1st round pick in 2008


2007

2007 NHL Draft

4 Thomas Hickey
52 Oscar Moller
61 Wayne Simmonds
82 Bryan Cameron
95 Alec Martinez
109 Dwight King
124 Linden Rowat
137 Joshua Turnbull
184 Josh Kidd
188 Matt Fillier

2007 Signings

Kyle Calder, LW 28 Signed 2 years $5.5 million
Ladislav Nagy, LW 28 Siged 1 year $3.75 million
Michal Handzus, C 30 Signed 4 years $16 million
Tom Preissing, D 31 Signed 4 years $11 million
Brad Stuart, D 27 Signed 1 year $3.5 million


FA that summer..

Sheldon Souray, D 30 Signed Oilers 5 years $27 million
Michael Nylander, C 34 Signed Capitals 4 years $19.5 million
Todd Bertuzzi, RW 32 Signed Ducks 2 years $8 million
Ryan Smyth, F 31 Signed Avalanche 5 years $31.25 million
Jason Blake, F 33 Signed Maple Leafs 5 years $20 million
Scott Gomez, C 27 Signed Rangers 7 years $51.5 million
Chris Drury, C 30 Signed Rangers 5 years $35.25 million
Brian Rafalski, D 33 Signed Red Wings 5 years $30 million
Daniel Briere, C 29 Signed Flyers 8 years $52 million

Trades

To Redwings - Brad Stuart
To Kings - 2nd round pick & 2009 4th round pick

To Flyers - Jaroslav Modry
To Kings - 3rd round pick

2008

2008 Draft

2 Drew Doughty
13 Colten Teubert
32 Vyacheslav Voynov
63 Robbie Czarnik
74 Andrew Campbell
88 Geordie Wudrick
123 Andrei Loktionov
153 Justin Azevedo
183 Garrett Roe

FA Signed

NONE

FA That Summer

Pavol Demitra LW Canucks 2 years 8M
Rob Blake D Sharks 1 year 5M
Marian Hossa RW Redwings 1 year 7.5M
Wade Redden D Rangers 6 years 39M
Brian Campbell D Blackhawks 8 years 57M

2008 TRADES

To Los Angeles Kings

17th pick in 2008
2nd round pick in 2009

To Calgary Flames

Mike Cammalleri
2nd round pick in 2008
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To Los Angeles Kings

Jarret Stoll
Matt Greene

To Edmonton Oilers

Lubomir Visnovsky
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To Los Angeles Kings

Denis Gauthier
2nd round pick in 2010

To Philadelphia Flyers

Patrik Hersley
Ned Lukacevic
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2009

2009 NHL Draft

5 Brayden Schenn
35 Kyle Clifford
84 Nicolas Deslauriers
95 Jean-Francois Berube
96 Linden Vey
126 David Kolomatis
156 Michael Pelech
179 Brandon Kozun
186 Jordan Nolan
198 Nic Dowd

2009 Signings

D Rob Scuderi, 4 years, $13.6M

FA That Summer

Nik Antropov C 31 Signed Atlanta 4 years 16M
Francois Beauchemin D 31 Signed Toronto 3 Years $11M
Mike Cammalleri LW 29 Signed Montreal 5 years $30M
Marian Gaborik RW 29 Signed NY Rangers 5 years $37.5M
Brian Gionta RW 32 Signed Montreal 5 years $25M
Martin Havlat LW 30 Signed Minnesota 6 years $30M
Marian Hossa RW 32 Signed Chicago 12 years $62.8M

2009 Trades

To New York Rangers

Brian Boyle

To Los Angeles Kings

3rd-round pick in 2010
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To Colorado Avalanche

Kyle Quincey
Tom Preissing
5th-round pick in 2010

To Los Angeles Kings
Ryan Smyth
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To Tampa Bay Lightning

Teddy Purcell
3rd-round pick in 2010

To Los Angeles Kings

Jeff Halpern
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2010 NHL DRAFT

15 Derek Fobort
47 Tyler Toffoli
70 Jordan Weal
148 Kevin Gravel
158 Maxim Kitsyn

2010 Signings

Willie Mitchell D 34 Signed 2 years 8M
Alexei Ponikarovsky LW 31 Signed 1 year $3.2M

FA That Summer

Sergei Gonchar D 37 Signed Ottawa 3 years $16.5M
Jaroslav Halak G 26 Signed St. Louis 4 years $15M
Dan Hamhuis D 28 Signed Vancouver 6 years $27M
Olli Jokinen C 32 Signed Calgary 2 years $6M
Paul Martin D 30 Signed Pittsburgh 5 years $25M
Anton Volchenkov D 29 Signed New Jersey 6 years $25.5M
Ilya Kocalchuk LW 28 Signed New Jersey 15 years 100 million


2010 Trades

To Boston Bruins

Future Considerations

To Los Angeles Kings

Marco Sturm
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To Edmonton Oilers

Colten Teubert
1st-round pick in 2011
Conditional 3rd-round pick in 2012

To Los Angeles Kings

Dustin Penner



OK I know I probably misses a lot but what do you think of his moves and the moves he did not make?

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I think DL can lead us to a cup, I don't think TM can, I think DL not realizing that might be the end of him too.

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Drafting: A
Player Development: B-
Contract Re-signings: A
Free Agency: D
Coaching Staff: C
Trades: B

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Drafting: A
Player Development: B-
Contract Re-signings: A
Free Agency: D
Coaching Staff: C
Trades: B
Pretty spot on

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Drafting: A
Player Development: B-
Contract Re-signings: A
Free Agency: D
Coaching Staff: C
Trades: B

When it comes to FA I think its a D based on the players he didn't sign like Drury, Gomez and so on. Would be an F when it comes to ability to sign FA

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When it comes to FA I think its a D based on the players he didn't sign like Drury, Gomez and so on. Would be an F when it comes to ability to sign FA
Just like the best trades are sometimes the best ones you don't make, sometimes the best UFA's are the ones you don't sign. With the exception of Chara, to whom the Kings made the highest offer but who wanted to stay in the East, which UFA has made a real big difference to his club? Hossa, arguably, who did not want to come to LA because he wanted to go to a 100 point team. Who else? Cammalleri, maybe. Differing opinions on whether he wanted to stay here. I am far from convinced that high-priced UFAs, as a general rule, make a big difference in the long run. I'd give Lombardi a C in that department.

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When it comes to FA I think its a D based on the players he didn't sign like Drury, Gomez and so on. Would be an F when it comes to ability to sign FA
Well, he did sign some players that have helped us like Mitchell, Stuart, Scuderi and Handzus. It was a D- then I decided on just a D, we have signed a lot of B-D list players, most not panning out very well, but sought after by a few teams at the time. He loses most points on the fact that he has never signed an A list player and 90% of his free agent signings never pan out correctly, but he has signed players that had reasonable expectations to pan out. The problem is that the only position he is willing to overpay for is defense.

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Dean Lombardi

Trades: B (Greene and Stoll was good, getting Smyth essentially on waivers via Quincey was excellent)
Free Agents/Other Deals: D (Ugh. Preissing, McCauley, Thornton, the extension for Cloutier, the Cammalleri and Blake departure fiascos)
Drafts/Farm System: B (Doughty was basically dropped in his lap, but Simmonds was a genuinely good pick, and the farm system has received the appropriate shot in the arm from the team losing in mass quantities and from trading established players for draft picks)
Press/Interviews: D (A seemingly engaging man, his self-congratulation and irresponsibility with his comments have become almost unbearable)
Results: F (None yet. This could change after the end of the season)

TOTAL: C-
... So, a year and a half later - has anything changed?

Trades: B (grade went down with the Purcell deal but back up with the Penner deal)
Free Agents/Other Deals: D+ (Mitchell improves his grade, Ponikarovsky doesn't, losing Frolov doesn't either)
Drafts/Farm System: B- (nobody from the farm system made any real impact in 10-11, except for Bernier - and Bernier's impact was a year later than it should have been and on the minimal side to boot)
Cap Management: B (Dean's conservative approach has always helped him in this category)
Press/Interviews: D- (yeah, stay classy Dean)
Results: D (team declined from last season to this, but they DID make the playoffs again, so I suppose that's something)

Overall, he's still about a C-.

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Just looking at the big picture from the team we had when DL took over to the team we have now I give him an A. And this doesn't even take the prospect cupboard into consideration:

End of 05-06 Season Roster before DL was hired in summer of 2006:

Player Name Birthdate Age Pos. GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
17 Lubomir Visnovsky1976-08-11 29 D 80 17 50 67 50 7 -- -- -- -- --
22 Craig Conroy 1971-09-04 33 C 78 22 44 66 78 13 -- -- -- -- --
38 Pavol Demitra 1974-11-29 30 C 58 25 37 62 42 21 -- -- -- -- --
13 Mike Cammalleri 1982-06-08 23 C 80 26 29 55 50 -14 -- -- -- -- --
24 Alexander Frolov 1982-06-19 23 L 69 21 33 54 40 17 -- -- -- -- --
7 Derek Armstrong 1973-04-23 32 C 62 13 28 41 46 -2 -- -- -- -- --
6 Joe Corvo 1977-06-20 28 D 81 14 26 40 38 16 -- -- -- -- --
19 Sean Avery 1980-04-10 25 L 75 15 24 39 257 -5 -- -- -- -- --
25 Eric Belanger 1977-12-16 27 C 65 17 20 37 62 -5 -- -- -- -- --
23 Dustin Brown 1984-11-04 20 R 79 14 14 28 80 -10 -- -- -- -- --
14 Mattias Norstrom 1972-01-02 33 D 77 4 23 27 58 -3 -- -- -- -- --
20 Luc Robitaille 1966-02-17 39 L 65 15 9 24 52 -6 -- -- -- -- --
97 Jeremy Roenick 1970-01-17 35 C 58 9 13 22 36 -5 -- -- -- -- --
29 Tom Kostopoulos 1979-01-24 26 R 76 8 14 22 100 -8 -- -- -- -- --
42 Tim Gleason 1983-01-29 22 D 78 2 19 21 77 0 -- -- -- -- --
10 Nathan Dempsey 1974-07-14 31 D 53 2 11 13 48 0 -- -- -- -- --
15 Jeff Cowan 1976-09-27 28 L 46 8 1 9 73 -8 -- -- -- -- --
43 Mike Weaver 1978-05-02 27 D 53 0 9 9 14 -3 -- -- -- -- --
37 Mark Parrish 1977-02-02 28 R 19 5 3 8 4 -9 -- -- -- -- --
3 Aaron Miller 1971-08-11 34 D 56 0 8 8 27 -6 -- -- -- -- --
53 Jeff Giuliano 1979-06-26 26 L 48 3 4 7 26 0 -- -- -- -- --
57 George Parros 1979-12-29 25 R 55 2 3 5 138 1 -- -- -- -- --
31 Mathieu Garon 1978-01-09 27 G 63 0 3 3 8 0 -- -- -- -- --
37 Denis Grebeshkov 1983-10-11 21 D 8 0 2 2 12 -4 -- -- -- -- --
48 Petr Kanko 1984-02-07 21 L 10 1 0 1 0 1 -- -- -- -- --
9Konstantin Pushkarev1985-02-12 20 R 1 0 1 1 0 0 -- -- -- -- --3
5 Brent Sopel 1977-01-07 28 D 11 0 1 1 6 -4 -- -- -- -- --
40 Matt Ryan 1983-11-12 21 C 12 0 1 1 2 -4 -- -- -- -- --
35 Jason Labarbera 1980-01-18 25 G 29 0 1 1 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
45 Adam Hauser 1980-05-27 25 G 1 0 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
49 Ryan Flinn 1980-04-20 25 L 2 0 0 0 5 0 -- -- -- -- --
56 Connor James 1982-08-25 23 C 2 0 0 0 0 -1 -- -- -- -- --
2 Richard Petiot 1982-08-20 23 D 2 0 0 0 2 -2 -- -- -- -- --
51 Jeff Tambellini 1984-04-13 21 L 4 0 0 0 2 -1 -- -- -- -- --
39 Noah Clarke 1979-06-11 26 L 5 0 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
77 Ken Belanger 1974-05-14 31 L 5 0 0 0 7 -1 -- -- -- -- --
Totals 243 431 674 1440
Goalies
Player Name GP Min GA GAA W L T Svs Pct EN SO
Jason Labarbera 29 1433 69 2.89 11 9 2 619 0.9 5 1
Mathieu Garon 63 3446 185 3.22 31 26 3 1553 0.894 4 4
Adam Hauser 1 51 6 7.08 18 0.75 0 0


End of 2010-2011 season roster:


Player Name Birthdate Age Pos. GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
Anze Kopitar 1987-08-24 23 C 75 25 48 73 20 25 -- -- -- -- --
Dustin Brown 1984-11-04 25 R 82 28 29 57 67 17 6 1 1 2 6
Justin Williams 1981-10-04 28 R 73 22 35 57 59 14 6 3 1 4 2
Ryan Smyth 1976-02-21 34 L 82 23 24 47 35 -1 6 2 3 5 0
Jarret Stoll 1982-06-24 28 C 82 20 23 43 42 -6 5 0 3 3 0
Jack Johnson 1987-01-13 23 D 82 5 37 42 44 -21 6 1 4 5 0
Drew Doughty 1989-12-08 20 D 76 11 29 40 68 13 6 2 2 4 8
Wayne Simmonds 1988-08-26 22 R 80 14 16 30 75 -2 6 1 2 3 20
Michal Handzus 1977-03-11 33 C 82 12 18 30 20 -5 6 1 1 2 0
Brad Richardson 1985-02-04 25 C 68 7 12 19 47 -13 6 2 3 5 2
Alec Martinez 1987-07-26 23 D 60 5 11 16 18 11 6 0 1 1 2
Alexei Ponikarovsky1980-04-09 30 L 61 5 10 15 36 1 4 1 0 1 0
Rob Scuderi 1978-12-30 31 D 82 2 13 15 16 1 6 0 2 2 0
Kyle Clifford 1991-01-13 19 L 76 7 7 14 141 -10 6 3 2 5 7
Trevor Lewis 1987-01-08 23 C 72 3 10 13 6 -11 6 1 3 4 2
Matt Greene 1983-05-13 27 D 71 2 9 11 70 3 6 0 0 0 14
Willie Mitchell 1977-04-23 33 D 57 5 5 10 21 4 6 1 1 2 4
Marco Sturm 1978-09-08 31 C 17 4 5 9 17 6 -- -- -- -- --
Andrei Loktionov 1990-05-30 20 C 19 4 3 7 2 2 -- -- -- -- --
Dustin Penner 1982-09-28 27 F 19 2 4 6 2 0 6 1 1 2 4
Davis Drewiske 1984-11-22 25 D 38 0 5 5 19 -1 -- -- -- -- --
Scott Parse 1984-09-05 25 R 5 1 3 4 0 5 2 0 0 0 0
Oscar Moller 1989-01-22 21 C 13 1 3 4 2 -1 1 0 0 0 0
Peter Harrold 1983-06-08 27 D 19 1 3 4 4 3 -- -- -- -- --
Kevin Westgarth 1984-02-07 26 F 56 0 3 3 105 -6 6 0 2 2 14
Brayden Schenn 1991-08-22 19 C 8 0 2 2 0 -1 -- -- -- -- --
Jonathan Quick 1986-01-21 24 G 61 0 2 2 0 0 6 0 0 0 0
Jake Muzzin 1989-02-21 21 D 11 0 1 1 0 -2 -- -- -- -- --
John Zeiler 1982-11-21 27 C 4 0 0 0 0 -1 -- -- -- -- --
Dwight King 1989-07-05 21 C 6 0 0 0 2 -2 -- -- -- -- --
Jonathan Bernier 1988-08-07 22 G 25 0 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
Totals 209 370 579 938
Goalies
Player Name GP Min GA GAA W L T Svs Pct EN SO
Jonathan Quick 61 3591 134 2.24 35 22 3 1497 0.918 4 6
Jonathan Bernier 25 1378 57 2.48 11 8 3 595 0.913 1 3

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... So, a year and a half later - has anything changed?

Trades: B (grade went down with the Purcell deal but back up with the Penner deal)
Free Agents/Other Deals: D+ (Mitchell improves his grade, Ponikarovsky doesn't, losing Frolov doesn't either)
Drafts/Farm System: B- (nobody from the farm system made any real impact in 10-11, except for Bernier - and Bernier's impact was a year later than it should have been and on the minimal side to boot)
Cap Management: B (Dean's conservative approach has always helped him in this category)
Press/Interviews: D- (yeah, stay classy Dean)
Results: D (team declined from last season to this, but they DID make the playoffs again, so I suppose that's something)

Overall, he's still about a C-.
Um, shouldn't losing Frolov who missed most of the season and is now playing in the KHL, improve his grade? You mistakenly put that it didn't.

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Um, shouldn't losing Frolov who missed most of the season and is now playing in the KHL, improve his grade? You mistakenly put that it didn't.
... Lombardi had every opportunity to re-up Frolov at a reduced price and couldn't/wouldn't do it. The fact that he happened to get injured has nothing to do with it. I still maintain that a healthy Frolov would have helped the Kings within the style of play that they employ, and if he were signed here last year would probably not have been so quick to head to the KHL. Frolov is still a good player.

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Drafts/Farm System: B- (nobody from the farm system made any real impact in 10-11, except for Bernier - and Bernier's impact was a year later than it should have been and on the minimal side to boot)
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So nice of you to totally disregard Clifford, Lewis ad Martinez.

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So nice of you to totally disregard Clifford, Lewis ad Martinez.
And Muzzin****er.

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Why exactly was Dean let go in San Jose?

Didn't he have a lot to do with building that team?
Did they just get tired of waiting?

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Why exactly was Dean let go in San Jose?

Didn't he have a lot to do with building that team?
Did they just get tired of waiting?
I think the main reason was contract holdouts and disputes with players. That and the team had a one year hiccup where they didn't qualify for the playoffs, he was fired, and then they were 1st and 2nd in the Pacific every year since...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Lombardi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Sharks_seasons

He was hired 1996.
He was fired in 2003.

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So nice of you to totally disregard Clifford, Lewis ad Martinez.
... Fair enough; Martinez did have an impact for sure. Clifford and Lewis did some very good things at times in the playoffs, but overall their impact throughout the season was minimal and they have a way to go.

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I didn't realize the Kings didn't sign any Free agents in 2008

what was that all about?

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I didn't realize the Kings didn't sign any Free agents in 2008

what was that all about?
We acquired the players we needed through trade instead. Stoll and Greene and to a much much lesser extent Gauthier. It was also the year Blake snubbed us. Again.

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... Fair enough; Martinez did have an impact for sure. Clifford and Lewis did some very good things at times in the playoffs, but overall their impact throughout the season was minimal and they have a way to go.
While both Clifford and Lewis stepped up their games big time in the playoffs, I think they both had significant impacts on the season overall. Clifford set a physical tone and stood up for his teammates regularly. He showed us why Westgarth is essentially pointless.

Lewis established himself as a solid NHL player and was a big part of the PK through much of the season.

Either way, I think these three plus Bernier make Lombardi's grade for development/farm system an easy A.

had Parse been healthy, that grade could have been even better.

Also, in regards to your score for free agency this year, I think Murray is mostly responsible for Poni's lack of production. DL signed us a good replacement for Frolov, who Murray then preceded to stick on the 4th line for much of the season. Also, you say injury doesn't factor in with Frolov negatively, but you are knocking Poni at the same time for injury because he got injured just when he started getting in a groove with the team, came back and was relegated quickly when he didn't immediately start playing as well as he was when he went down with injury. Poni hustled his ass off and played pretty well, but he wasn't used properly in my opinion.

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DL would also have to account for Crawford and Murray

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DL would also have to account for Crawford and Murray
Duh, but that's it's own category. Even though one could easily argue it's the most important one.

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While both Clifford and Lewis stepped up their games big time in the playoffs, I think they both had significant impacts on the season overall. Clifford set a physical tone and stood up for his teammates regularly.
... Guys who play 9-11 minutes a game aren't impact players. Especially in the case of Clifford and Lewis, who I guess had - what? 25 or so points and a -22 combined or something? I'm not saying they're useless players, because they aren't. But I don't see where they had a significant impact or that the Kings would have not been able to withstand the loss of either one of them for a significant amount of time. They might develop into better players in the next few years; in fact, it's almost a certainty that they will with experience. But as of right now, they have a ways to go.

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Either way, I think these three plus Bernier make Lombardi's grade for development/farm system an easy A.
... OK, who on the roster have the Kings developed under Lombardi's watch, up to this point? Doughty, Simmonds, Johnson, Quick, Parse, Martinez, Bernier, Lewis, and Clifford. That's an above-average group. I suppose your mileage may vary on this one. I think a B grade is fair. If Loktionov turns out to be good, if Schenn turns out to be good, if Muzzin or whoever else turns out to be good ... then OK, he gets closer to an A. We'll see.

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Also, in regards to your score for free agency this year, I think Murray is mostly responsible for Poni's lack of production. DL signed us a good replacement for Frolov, who Murray then preceded to stick on the 4th line for much of the season. Also, you say injury doesn't factor in with Frolov negatively, but you are knocking Poni at the same time for injury because he got injured just when he started getting in a groove with the team, came back and was relegated quickly when he didn't immediately start playing as well as he was when he went down with injury. Poni hustled his ass off and played pretty well, but he wasn't used properly in my opinion.
... Well, the category for "head coach" is arguably the most important, as you've said. But that factors into just about every category I listed, right? Player development, overall results, trades, free agents ... all of those are dependent in some way upon how the players involved are used by the coach and how each of them perform for him. I just felt it would be redundant to list a category that has an effect on almost every other category anyway.

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Well he is a not too bad as GM.

He just have a strange love for players without any hockey sense.
He tries to build a hard working instead a winning spirit.

And of course there is the strange relationship to the coaching staff who would be fired on every other team after 4 month.
Why Kompon still ha sa job and is even defended by Lombardi is far beyond me.

IMO Lombardi has to watch out that these monkeys don't take him with them when the mob is chasing them out of town

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Well he is a not too bad as GM.


And of course there is the strange relationship to the coaching staff who would be fired on every other team after 4 month.
Why Kompon still ha sa job and is even defended by Lombardi is far beyond me.

He is still here? I thought he would be fired as soon as the season was over.

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He is still here? I thought he would be fired as soon as the season was over.
From what i know he is still here.

If anyone has other informations please help me out here.

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