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With a floor of $48 million, Florida must find a way to give $30mil to 9 players.

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06-21-2011, 03:03 PM
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What about trading for Carter?

Preferably Gudbranson and 3rd overall.

maybe someway you can get the 11th overall from COL.

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Yeah, trade Drury and any pick(slight consolation) to FL to help drop the floor $5 mil

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Campbell makes perfect sense. He's a very good player that gets underrated because of his contract.

I could also see Tallon going for contracts that have 2 or 3 years on them if he can squeeze a good asset out of it in the process.
Considering DT was the guy that signed soupy to begin with, this one actually makes a ton of sense. Ironically, it's chicago that might not want to off him anymore, as soupy was great for them the past year.

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Lets not forget if they ask about Gomez. the cap hit 7.3per for 3 years ( 21.9mil) remaining BUT they would only have to pay him 17.5mil That means they fix a big part of their floor and they save 4.4million in payrole after 3 years. Now if you are the owner of the Panthers, 4.4 million is NOT chump change. One more thing they can sure HOPE Gomez needs a long term injury rehab( insurance covered)

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You guys can have Brian Rolston. We're willing to accept future considerations.

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What about trading for Carter?

Preferably Gudbranson and 3rd overall.

maybe someway you can get the 11th overall from COL.
God NO!

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06-21-2011, 03:41 PM
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That's a very smart thing to do, offer him 8M a season, if he doesn't bite, who cares? You didn't lose anything in the process, if he accepts and LA doesn't match you get a franchise defensemen who many consider to be top 10 in the league right now.
You also lose 4 1sts

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06-21-2011, 04:30 PM
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You guys are welcome to Kris Versteeg.

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06-21-2011, 04:32 PM
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Luongo's family lives in Florida, I could see him him waiving his NTC to go back there. He wouldn't have to worry about playoff disappointments anymore.....
This is kind of dumb! Why are people bashing Luongo? He helped bring his team to the SC finals, game 7, is that not good enough? I don't see Luongo coming back to Fla because he has like a 10 year contract and we have Markstrom who is supposed to be our next Star goaltender, just doesn't make sense.

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06-21-2011, 04:45 PM
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If he actually wants to be competitve this season the only way is by taking bad contracts. Guys like Gomez and Campbell are vastly over-paid but also the main source of impact players that teams want to get rid off.

If he trades for good players with good contracts he gives up assets he can't afford to part with.

If he tries free-agency, while he has money to spend, so do other much more competitive teams now that the cap is at 64 million making Florida an undesirable location. And there aren't many impact free-agents out there that would help carry Florida out of the basement.

Just looking at the talent on the team signed for next year shows me a team that's positioned to be with Ottawa and Winnipeg in the bottom of the East. Those two teams, while otherwise the worst in the Eastern Conference, still have more talent than Florida. It would take great effort a probably mortgaging the future to reach the level of Toronto or Carolina, let alone Buffalo or New York to compete for a playoff spot. Their 1st rounder, Gudbranson and Markstrom may be ready to play, but probably won't be impact players in their NHL debut.


While Tallon might want to compete next year, he doesn't have the horses. If he tries to compete then I'm pre-emptively diagnosising him with Lowe/Burke syndrome, i.e. the crippling GM condition of thinking his team can compete when it can't. The sensible thing is to do what you can to acquire good assets to prepare to climb the standings later.
So... just for the sake of argument, **IF** Tallon signed Versteeg,Leino,Jovo, and an offersheet to Stamkos( and was successful) you don't think the Panthers would be competitive and more successful? IF the Cap did in fact increase,that is just more money for Tallon to spend to improve the roster and if anyone or anything would be able to bring in decent/better players to our organization I believe it is Tallon.
Also, I know the talk or thought of giving up 1st rounders for an RFA is very risky, I think for a player of Stamkos/Parise's caliber is well worth it. I don't put Kessel in that catagory and although we're missing out on those 1st rounders, we're aquiring top end talent that is relatively young and can help out our offense tremendously.

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06-21-2011, 04:47 PM
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Tallon would be wise to make a big backloaded offer sheet to any significant RFA - plays a couple of years in Florida, then is dealt to a bigger market if, by the time the real money kicks in, his salary is too big for Florida to handle. They get closer to the cap floor without killing their margins, become more competitive, and can recoup significant assets if the player is dealt.

Applies to UFAs as well, really.

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Islanders had 18 million to sign people I think but after signing restricted free agents and their UFA'd and Mark Eaton, Milian Jurcina, Konopka and bringing in James Wisniewski they got through.
They got through because they are still paying for Yashin

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Max performance bonuses on a bunch of UFAs (college kids) and you're there. Probably a loop hole though.

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If Florida trades for Drury, Gomez, Rolston, Redden, and Souray, without sending any salary back the other way, they will be just above the cap floor.



Drury - Gomez - Rolston
Redden - Souray

That is an all-star lineup if I've seen one! Unfortunately, it is not 2005.
Hahaha oh wow! A++ would read again!

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Sign a veteran free agent to a contact with some big, and maybe some unlikely to be achieved bonuses, for one year.

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06-22-2011, 11:16 AM
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I'm sending them my offer sheet as an undrafted free agent. I would be happy to get them to the floor.

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06-22-2011, 11:46 AM
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Because Drury has a long time injury and will be out for most if not all of next season, he wouldn't count against the cap. He'd have to be on LTIR.
LTIR doesn't remove you from the cap and you have to spend high enough in order to exercise it. In Florida he wouldn't be on LTIR because they wouldn't be high enough to implement it. The problem with trading Drury to Florida is that he's already hurt and he'd have to be accepted by Florida's insurance because they're the one's paying out the 80% of the player contract and I see no reason why they would knowing the player is hurt.


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I'm sending them my offer sheet as an undrafted free agent. I would be happy to get them to the floor.
There you go, performance bonuses to players who will never reach them and you're there without spending it. Great idea!

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They'll sign players off the UFA list.

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LTIR doesn't remove you from the cap and you have to spend high enough in order to exercise it. In Florida he wouldn't be on LTIR because they wouldn't be high enough to implement it.
Yup.

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The problem with trading Drury to Florida is that he's already hurt and he'd have to be accepted by Florida's insurance because they're the one's paying out the 80% of the player contract and I see no reason why they would knowing the player is hurt.
Virtually all injury insurance is under a group policy through the League - not individual teams. Other 3rd party insurance is prohibitively expensive.

Drury is covered under that plan with the Rangers and would continue to be covered if traded - as long as the new team elects coverage and premiums are kept current. The insurance does not cover all players or even necessarily full salaries - there is a per team limit on coverage and premiums are based on a %-age of total covered salaries.

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There you go, performance bonuses to players who will never reach them and you're there without spending it. Great idea!
An SPC with unreasonable/unrealistic Performance Bonuses solely intended to allow a team to reach the Lower Limit would likely be rejected as circumvention and/or expose the team to Article 26 sanctions.

Max or near max ELS Performance bonuses for high draft picks (Gudbranson and whoever they draft this year) would be perfectly acceptable. Those same bonuses for a 7th round projected 4th liner would likely be shot down.

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lol my bold perdiction is they get carter,Souray,and they will over pay a bottom 12 forward by 2 mil,and will take a stay at home defender for 3 mil over the tag.

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