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06-22-2011, 04:02 PM
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And Kemba Walker, on the same floor

Hate to say it, but I think he'll be the steal of this draft. All the hating towards this kid about his attitude and his size is crazy. The dude is want the Raps need.

Do you really want to take a chance at a big guy?
I don't think there have been many concerns about his attitude. He's said to be a great team guy and a leader in the room and on the court.

I think the main concerns are his size, and passing ability which I think have been way overblown.

I was watching a preview show on NBA TV the other night, and they were just gushing over Kemba. They said he could turn out to be the best PG in the draft, has huge upside, and is probably the most NBA ready prospect in the entire draft.

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^^ He is. I've seen him in the NCAA tourney, very clutch player. He'd be a good improvement.

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http://twitter.com/#!/DraftExpress/s...45726025977858

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Not sure I quite believe this yet, but Minnesota is apparently telling NBA teams that they are taking Enes Kanter #2 over Derrick Williams.
16 minutes ago via Seesmic Desktop
hmm, makes sense considering Minnesota is already set at the 3 and 4 with Beasley and Love.

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
2. Minnesota - Enes Kanter
3. Utah - Derrick Williams
4. Cleveland - Jonas Valanciunas
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight

Is what would likely go down if this is true.

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06-22-2011, 04:53 PM
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sick... hopefully there are solid Centers next year too though, and knight actually becomes a pg! maybe we can make a trade for calderon for darko?

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06-22-2011, 04:55 PM
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The interesting question with all the rumours is do we entertain moving the pick for Tony Parker.

I know its just rumour but an interesting thought. Usually in the NBA, where there is smoke there is fire.

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hmm, makes sense considering Minnesota is already set at the 3 and 4 with Beasley and Love.

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
2. Minnesota - Enes Kanter
3. Utah - Derrick Williams
4. Cleveland - Jonas Valanciunas
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight

Is what would likely go down if this is true.
Damn, there would be a decent chance Williams could fall to us if Cleveland wasn't ahead of us. There is no way he slides past that.

All I am hoping for is Utah picking Knight and that would give us Williams or Valanciunas (likely Val).

Dropping out of that 3rd spot looks so big now.

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06-22-2011, 05:08 PM
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would rather end up with knight over val, a skinny muscle-less center who can't play in the NBA for two years...

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would rather end up with knight over val, a skinny muscle-less center who can't play in the NBA for two years...
I'd still want Walker.

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This video convinced me, I want Kemba.
Kemba is going to be a steal. His ability to take his game to a whole new level in the moments where it is needed the most is a quality I love.

If we don't draft Kemba or Knight I will seriously rage. Especially if it's Biyombo. I am in the mentality of "Build from the point" and I see this as an opportunity to do so.

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To be honest, I don't expect Kemba to be more than a 6-man in the NBA. His style is suited to that off the bench, combo guard that is fairly common. NCAA success isn't all that significant in my opinion, since the game is so different in how it is played.

I like Kemba, I like what he brings but he wont be the answer for a starting PG long term. Although I think he could be a beast off the bench in the future

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To be honest, I don't expect Kemba to be more than a 6-man in the NBA. His style is suited to that off the bench, combo guard that is fairly common. NCAA success isn't all that significant in my opinion, since the game is so different in how it is played.

I like Kemba, I like what he brings but he wont be the answer for a starting PG long term. Although I think he could be a beast off the bench in the future
I disagree but I think he can and will become a starter in the NBA. But that's my own opinion.

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To be honest, I don't expect Kemba to be more than a 6-man in the NBA. His style is suited to that off the bench, combo guard that is fairly common. NCAA success isn't all that significant in my opinion, since the game is so different in how it is played.

I like Kemba, I like what he brings but he wont be the answer for a starting PG long term. Although I think he could be a beast off the bench in the future
From what I seen on the video and keeping in mind the video is a collection of his good successful plays and does not include his failures(thanks for that btw). If I were to compare him with sayyyy Derozan I would say this as Derozan has become a good (not great..yet) scorer. So if he can compare favorably to Derozan than he will be a good and possibly real good player. First the good...I think he is quicker has a higher basketball IQ and is very confident. I think shooting the ball is a wash as far as I can tell. He appears to have better instincts and feel for the game. The bad... I don't think he jumps as well as Derozan and I don't think he is as atheletic but I don't think it will relegate him to the bench to be a super sub. Also he isn't very tall they say 6' 1" so not real short but can he shoot over top taller guards? I'm thinking he can as he appears to have lots of little moves to leave his defender flat footed and off guard also his quickness will keep the defender back a step to avoid being left standing as he slashes to the basket. And will he be able to guard his opposite number? With his quickness he should be able to cut them off and force them to shoot over top which they should be able to do relatively easy imo. Shooters may have to be good on the perimeter because he should be able to cut them off and prevent them from going to the basket for easy layups.

I have no idea how good of a true PG and thus a playmaker he will become as I haven't seen many assists just baskets. They say he was basically the only option on UCONN and so he played that way creating his own shot all the time. A big question mark in regards to making plays but there is little doubt about his scoring abilities though.

Personally I think if his shooting developes a little further (as it should) he should become a dynamic player as a 1 who shoots a lot and a leader on whatever team is fortunate enough to draft him.


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Well Walker has a crazy step-back and is pretty athletic. He has huge leaping ability so I think he will be fine.

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I have no idea how good of a true PG and thus a playmaker he will become as I haven't seen many assists just baskets. They say he was basically the only option on UCONN and so he played that way creating his own shot all the time. A big question mark in regards to making plays but there is little doubt about his scoring abilities though.
Funny thing is, going into this season, it was a question of whether he could score or not. He was considered more of a passer before this season but due to his team needs, he picked up the scoring.

He reminds me a lot of Derrick Rose, with his great finish inside and natural scoring ability. He isn't nearly as athletic but I think he can become Rose Lite.

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Oh, and thanks guys for not running me out of this thread yet. You know, me being a Habs fan and all.
I'm a Sharks fan, so I don't think that NHL allegiance matters. Of course, I have my fancy navy user name to protect me.

but really we've got at least a half-dozen different NHL allegiances in this and the Blue Jays thread, so I don't think that it's as concern what hockey team you like.

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suppsoingly josh smith is on the market... maybe get him and hinrich?

pg: hinrich
sg: demar
sf; smith
pf: davis
c: idc who?!

please?

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suppsoingly josh smith is on the market... maybe get him and hinrich?

pg: hinrich
sg: demar
sf; smith
pf: davis
c: idc who?!

please?
and you plan on getting Smith without sacrificing (Based on that lineup) DeRozan and Davis how exactly?



also, saw this on ESPN:

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Toronto has narrowed its choices to four -- Brandon Knight, Jonas Valanciunas, Bismack Biyombo and Kawhi Leonard.

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suppsoingly josh smith is on the market... maybe get him and hinrich?

pg: hinrich
sg: demar
sf; smith
pf: davis
c: idc who?!

please?
Josh Smith is a player I'd be more than happy to give up the 5th overall + more for.

He's one player who'll do wonders for our defense as a whole. BC needs to get on that ASAP.

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and you plan on getting Smith without sacrificing (Based on that lineup) DeRozan and Davis how exactly?



also, saw this on ESPN:
this is the rumored deal :

Josh Smith could be headed to Orlando for Jameer Nelson, Ryan Anderson, Daniel
Orton, and others. Kirk Hinrich may also be going to the Magic in that deal.

we can't offer something better then that without davis or demar?

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and you plan on getting Smith without sacrificing (Based on that lineup) DeRozan and Davis how exactly?



also, saw this on ESPN:
If we have to, I hope we trade up and get Knight. I don't want Calderon for another year.

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If we have to, I hope we trade up and get Knight. I don't want Calderon for another year.
My top 4 in order :

1. Enes Kanter
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Tony Parker for our 1st rd pick

Fold this peice of **** franchise up.

Colangelo is a moron. Run this team into the ground. Everything he did has failed.

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If both C's are gone, then i'd rather get Kemba over Knight.

And Hellno on trading our 1st for Parker. It's step backwards.

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If both C's are gone, then i'd rather get Kemba over Knight.

And Hellno on trading our 1st for Parker. It's step backwards.
Its being reported on the score. Ill lose my mind if it happens.

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Tony Parker for our 1st rd pick

Fold this peice of **** franchise up.

Colangelo is a moron. Run this team into the ground. Everything he did has failed.
The heat could use some love. Go follow them.

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