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06-21-2011, 12:53 PM
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Joel Ward, Sean Bergenheim and Tomas Kopecky are all UFA and would make great signings and there is plenty of cap space. If they added them and Carter that is an epic 2 lines and a good 3rd line.

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FORWARDS
Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Sean Bergenheim ($0.700m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.875m) / Joel Ward ($1.500m)

Milan Michalek ($4.333m) / Peter Regin ($1.000m) / Nick Foligno ($1.200m)
Zack Smith ($0.700m) / Chris Neil ($2.000m) / Jesse Winchester ($0.750m)
/ / Colin Greening ($0.816m)

DEFENSEMEN
Sergei Gonchar ($5.500m) / Filip Kuba ($3.700m)
Chris Phillips ($3.083m) / Erik Karlsson ($1.300m)
Brian Lee ($0.875m) / Matt Carkner ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Craig Anderson ($3.187m)

BUYOUTS: Jonathan Cheechoo ($1.166m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($0.700m) / Ray Emery ($0.562m)

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SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $52,122,727; BONUSES: $425,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $7,277,273
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More like embarrasing top 2 lines.

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06-21-2011, 01:25 PM
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That's a horrible top six. Ward and Bergenheim both got under 30 points this year, and Kopecky had like 40. They aren't top six forwards.

Not to mention the fact that they are all going to cost double what you put there.

If we had that top six I would find myself jealous of the Leafs
I was judging bergenheim and ward by their awesome performance in the playoffs and was hoping that it would carry into next season. Also I was trying to save money...there are good UFA but expensive like Gagne, Richards.

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06-21-2011, 05:27 PM
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I think you were making sense until you added this line.

The Sens aren't close to competing for the cup, don't even go there. If the Sens added Carter, Leino,and Jokinen they still wouldn't be cup contenders. Playoff bound, potentially, contenders, not a chance.

IMO Murray is well aware of the injury risks, the need for bounce back years from many of his veterans, the ups and downs of young developing players, and that Anderson will not play 82 games at the level he did at the end last year. So I doubt he is under the illusion his team just needs to make a trade for a second line center, add a UFA or two, and they are competing for the SC.

Regarding Carter specifically, I doubt Philly will even entertain offers with the cap now set at $64M. If Philly should move him, it would take overpayment, and the price in draft picks/prospects would set a team like Ottawa back years.
With Carter, Leino and Jokinen they are not? I don't know what you think qualifies as a contender but in my eyes anyone who qualifies for the Stanley Cup playoffs is a contender. We have seen 7 and 8 seeds make it far in the past. My question is trying to win rather than being a shoe in. I truly feel that if our goalie can make some saves, it will make this group look a hell of a lot better. Just that one factor is huge, IMO.

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06-21-2011, 05:46 PM
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With Carter, Leino and Jokinen they are not? I don't know what you think qualifies as a contender but in my eyes anyone who qualifies for the Stanley Cup playoffs is a contender. We have seen 7 and 8 seeds make it far in the past. My question is trying to win rather than being a shoe in. I truly feel that if our goalie can make some saves, it will make this group look a hell of a lot better. Just that one factor is huge, IMO.
I respect you view, and theoretically you are right. However in practice only four or five teams have the right mix to truly contend.

While there are exceptions, the Edmonton Oilers in 2005/6, the first 8th seed team to make it to the SCF since 1994, it just doesn't happen that often.

The 2011/12 Senators will have 7-10 players on their roster with 3 years or less experience in the NHL, just too much to be consistently competitve, even with a few UFA adds.


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06-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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Ottawa could easily land him if they wanted too. But they shouldn't imo, just continue the rebuild.

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Ottawa could easily land him if they wanted too. But they shouldn't imo, just continue the rebuild.
No we couldn't. Getting Carter would require a significant overpayment, something that would set us back quite a bit. With the cap going up, the Flyers don't need to get rid of him.

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I respect you view, and theoretically you are right. However in practice only four or five teams have the right mix to truly contend.

While there are exceptions, the Edmonton Oilers in 2005/6, the first 8th seed team to make it to the SCF since 1994, it just doesn't happen that often.

The 2011/12 Senators will have 7-10 players on their roster with 3 years or less experience in the NHL, just too much to be consistently competitve, even with a few UFA adds.
Well, thank you as I do yours!

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Jeff Carter just got traded to columbus per team1200

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A steep price for that contract, glad we didn't bite.

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