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06-23-2011, 02:40 PM
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Holy ****.

I really never thought it would happen.

I always figured we could net a crazy return for him. This is a pretty good haul, but I imagined it could be better. Meltzer's idea of acquiring Moore in the process seemed like a good one...
And it's precisely because of that line of thinking why it happened...again assessing situations in terms of preconceived notions while ignoring or rejecting any contrary signs (which there were tons). Lots of people were acting according to wish while not allowing to be deflected by facts such as the possibility of netting a very strong return (would have liked Moore though) while gaining cap space for Bryzgalov and contingency purposes.

Again let's now discuss why it happened....

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I agree that we're really ****ing small down the middle...

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Usually the team that gets the best player wins the trade but I like this trade for you guys. Voracek is a good player and that 8th pick should be a good player and most imortantly you clear cap space. great job.
The pick doesn't help a team that needs to be looking to win in the next couple of years.

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Yeah WIP is also saying that they're hearing that Versteeg is gone too...maybe to Panthers
Eklund tweeted about this being part 1 an part 2 is a BIG deal.

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"Carter, who has 11-years remaining on contract" LOLz

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****ing Paul Holmgren opting to keep Carle and Versteeg over Carter...

I'm eating a crow right now

STEEG TO FLA

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BTW, it is kind of F'd up to sign a guy for 11 years and then deal him before his contract starts.
Yeah, Dan Boyle didn't feel good about that.


I don't want to call it back-stabbing, but that looks bad on your GM around the league. That could affect their ability to sign players in the future. Elliotte Friedman talked about this and how it affected the Leafs with Mike Gartner, and also felt that Carter and Holmgren had an understand that he wouldn't be traded.

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we are going to REALLY regret this.
Not necessarily. I just think it goes against the win now mentality.

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I don't know why, because it's not directly related but I have a feeling that 50/7 contract might actually be true.

Holy ****, that's going to be so bad.

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Usually the team that gets the best player wins the trade but I like this trade for you guys. Voracek is a good player and that 8th pick should be a good player and most imortantly you clear cap space. great job.
I agree with this. on it's own, the return looks good. add in bryz to the equation and it looks like a big win.

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This. Unless Voracek can replace Carter's defense and has a breakout year offensively, this team just hurt it's chances at a Stanley Cup this year. Our offense just got worse, and so did team defense.
But the goaltending just got exponentially better.

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Good riddance, floater.

JVR will step up and play the way we hoped Carter would for the last 5 years.

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This ****ing sucks. No size down the middle, no elite goal scorer. Voracek better have a break out year or this trade will look AWFUL down the road.

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To be honest if the flyers draft someone whos not a bust in the 8th round or not a top 4 d or top 6 forward they got robbed... Voracek is good but i dont see his style with the flyers

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Horrible.

Not sure how people think this is a good deal. This I'd going to bite us in the ass.

Ugh

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I think you guys will be blown away by Voracek. IMO the guy is on the verge of being a PPG player.

On the surface, Philly makes out very well IMO.

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But the goaltending just got exponentially better.
The best goaltending on earth doesn't matter in a 7 game series behind a weak defense.

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I bet Richards and Carter were traded.

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we are going to REALLY regret this.
No kidding. Already am. This is really depressing - and a really bad return for a team trying to win the Cup in the next two years.

And if Columbus gets moved to the East in realignment, our smurf Cs will have to contend with Carter-Umberger up the middle.

Wonder what the follow up deal Eklund referred to is?

Versteeg + #8 pick to FLA for #3 Pick?

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Voracek-Giroux-JVR <----boss

We get the number 8 pick as well, who should be somewhat decent.

Good trade by Homer, even though I liked Carter.

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Yeah, Dan Boyle didn't feel good about that.


I don't want to call it back-stabbing, but that looks bad on your GM around the league. That could affect their ability to sign players in the future. Elliotte Friedman talked about this and how it affected the Leafs with Mike Gartner, and also felt that Carter and Holmgren had an understand that he wouldn't be traded.
Well then why didn't he give him a NTC?!

You gotta love philly for making you laugh in the off season... love you homer!

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time for richards to get his act together and JVR will be the beast of this team.

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I'm really scared now that 7 years 51 million is true.

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I know this goes against the message board concept, but people need to chill until they see how the draft + free agency plays out before grading anything in terms of how they improve for next season.

Only bad part of this is it kind of verifies that Bryz is going to get closer to $7M than $5M, which blows, but clearly they (Snider) are tired of the goaltending BS, which is totally understandable.

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