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06-23-2011, 08:22 PM
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doesnt sound like douglas. sounds like a tall athletic guard that can guard both PG's and SG's.
Defense first backup PG with limited/inconsistent offense, thats where I get the TD basis.

I would've much rathered Singleton or Faried.

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That pick makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

We need defense and rebounding. We have someone on the board in Kenneth Faried who is a beast at rebounding, logic would dicatate that he would be the guy we draft.
Sounds like a defensive player to me. They do need size, but, with Amar'e and Melo, when is a 6'9" F going to get much PT. Jerome Jordan is supposed to be coming over this season, and I'll wager that the Knicks purchase and 2nd, and possibly a 1st. Douglas and Shumpert gives you a strong defensive tandem on the ball.

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Was Walsh in charge of this pick? A big screw you to Dolan?

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Hopefully the Rangers do a bit better than this tomorrow night

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I'm a huge ACC hoops fan, and I love this pick.

Shumpert needs to work on his jumper, for sure, but I think he has to tools to become a good jump shooter. His issues are more mechanical and can be ironed out with good instruction. Past that, I think this guy is going to be fantastic at taking the ball to the hoop. He's extremely athletic, and moving away from the constraints of GT's offense, I think he's going to excel.

He's one of the best defenders available in the draft and will help the Knicks immensely in this area. He has the size and strength to defend larger guards and even forwards. Something the Knicks could desperately use. He also rebounds very well for a guard. High motor as well.

There were certainly more flashy names on the board, but Shumpert is a solid, solid pick. He's going to score more than enough to warrant big minutes, and his defense makes him that much more valuable.

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06-23-2011, 08:23 PM
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Shumpert is a big, athletic, strong, versatile player that can guard and play both pg and sg positions. The guy is a monster on the defensive side of the ball, sees the floor well and has good basketball IQ. While im not sold on this pick because i dont know about the Knicks scouting its still a solid pick up with what is out there..

Now the Knicks should trade that scrub Douglas for a late 1st round pick, pay $3m for a late 1st rounder, and then pay another $1m for a 2nd round pick.. Get some good young players like Selby, farried, and so on

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06-23-2011, 08:23 PM
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06-23-2011, 08:24 PM
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Sounds like a defensive player to me. They do need size, but, with Amar'e and Melo, when is a 6'9" F going to get much PT. Jerome Jordan is supposed to be coming over this season, and I'll wager that the Knicks purchase and 2nd, and possibly a 1st. Douglas and Shumpert gives you a strong defensive tandem on the ball.
Yes but he provides absolutely no rebounding which we also need.

Faried and even Singleton provides both of those.

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I'm a huge ACC hoops fan, and I love this pick.

Shumpert needs to work on his jumper, for sure, but I think he has to tools to become a good jump shooter. His issues are more mechanical and can be ironed out with good instruction. Past that, I think this guy is going to be fantastic at taking the ball to the hoop. He's extremely athletic, and moving away from the constraints of GT's offense, I think he's going to excel.

He's one of the best defenders available in the draft and will help the Knicks immensely in this area. He has the size and strength to defend larger guards and even forwards. Something the Knicks could desperately use. He also rebounds very well for a guard. High motor as well.

There were certainly more flashy names on the board, but Shumpert is a solid, solid pick. He's going to score more than enough to warrant big minutes, and his defense makes him that much more valuable.
I really hope you're right, since his scouting report doesn't read too well. Listed as a PG, but doesn't seem to be much of a playmaker, and doesn't have a consistent jump shot.

I can get behind taking a guy for defense, but why not take the more proven and more versatile Chris Singleton then?

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Yes but he provides absolutely no rebounding which we also need.

Faried and even Singleton provides both of those.
Again, with Melo and Amar'e, when would either of those players get PT. They definitely need a big, but at the center position. Shumpert will see more playing on the current squad than either Faried or Singleton.

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That pick makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

We need defense and rebounding. We have someone on the board in Kenneth Faried who is a beast at rebounding, logic would dicatate that he would be the guy we draft.
He's a tremendous defensive player, and will rebound well from the guard spot.

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Defense first backup PG with limited/inconsistent offense, thats where I get the TD basis.

I would've much rathered Singleton or Faried.
I disagree that he's a defense-first player. Georgia Tech is not known for their wide-open, up-tempo offense, and I believe he'll absolutely flourish in our system. His jumper needs work, yes, but the guy can get to the basket. And I anticipate that he'll get to the basket with good regularity at the next level.

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Again, with Melo and Amar'e, when would either of those players get PT. They definitely need a big, but at the center position. Shumpert will see more playing on the current squad than either Faried or Singleton.
You could always have them come off the bench.

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06-23-2011, 08:31 PM
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I wonder if the Knicks will buy into the late first round, supposedly they were talking to the Bulls about I believe 28 or 30, but only if the guy they wanted was there.

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yeah im not sure why there is a huge love in affair on here for a 6'7"-6'9" SF/PF when we have melo and amare. these players wont be playing crunch time minutes unless those two are fouled out. we need a defensive rebounding center. not a forward.

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I wonder if the Knicks will buy into the late first round, supposedly they were talking to the Bulls about I believe 28 or 30, but only if the guy they wanted was there.
The rumor was Walker and $3 million for the 30th pick...I've heard that if Selby is there, they'll make the deal.

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The rumor was Walker and $3 million for the 30th pick...I've heard that if Selby is there, they'll make the deal.
Make Melo happy haha.

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Melo quickly backing off those tweets with a series of other tweets.

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I wonder who had to call Melo hahaha.

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That's exactly what Joe Beningo and Evan Roberts said.

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yeah im not sure why there is a huge love in affair on here for a 6'7"-6'9" SF/PF when we have melo and amare. these players wont be playing crunch time minutes unless those two are fouled out. we need a defensive rebounding center. not a forward.
This, the Knicks always seem to overload on players with similar attributes and never fill the need.

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Between this pick and Grunwald and Amare stressing the need to improve defensively, I'm optimistic that D'Antoni's seat will be white hot even before the season begins.

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In his defense, Shumpert did improve during his junior season, and his 25.7 percent assist rate was encouraging. But it's hard not to feel like Shumpert is the beneficiary of that age-old draft red herring: workouts. Shumpert tested well at the draft combine. Scouts were impressed by his athleticism in individual sessions. "Hey, he jumps higher than we thought. Maybe he's not so bad after all!"
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The problem -- and college hoops fans already know this -- is that Shumpert has always been a great athlete. He's always "tested well." Between the lines, though, he's never played up to potential. He's never shot the ball well. He's never been an effective distributor. With Shumpert at the helm -- and this isn't entirely his fault; Paul Hewitt shares this blame, too -- Georgia Tech's offense has often looked downright lost.
I really, really hope I'm wrong, but this doesn't look too promising. Taking guys just because they work out well is usually asking for trouble.

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Tommy Dee - "Not sure what on earth the knicks are doing"

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Donnie Walsh obviously very high on Shumpert. Says he can be a rotation player right now. Decision to pass on Singleton bc of need at 2G.
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Plan is that Shumpert can defend 2's next to Chauncey and then Chauncey can play 2 on offense and Shumpert can play pick-n-roll.
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I agree with Walsh; Iman's shot is far from broken. It needs technical refinement, but he's more than capable of turning it into an asset. And I also agree that he's a rotation player right now.

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