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OT: Did MaxPac hit cost Chara the Norris?

View Poll Results: Did the hit on MaxPac have an affect on the Norris vote?
Yes 20 23.81%
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06-23-2011, 02:57 PM
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The league doesn't give a crap about what he did to Pacioretty.

Even if Pacioretty died they wouldn't care one bit, so there's no way this cost him the Norris. It was just because Lidstrom was better.

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06-23-2011, 03:12 PM
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Chara was very ordinary the first half of the season..

He wasn't even in my top 3.

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First half of the season many fans were disappointed in his play. He got a lot better the 2nd half, but it definitely wasn't enough to garner serious consideration, at least from me.
Corey Perry didn't have an awesome first half either. He scored 22 goals from March 9th on though and it was good enough for the Hart.
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The league doesn't give a crap about what he did to Pacioretty.

Even if Pacioretty died they wouldn't care one bit, so there's no way this cost him the Norris. It was just because Lidstrom was better.
I don't think the league cares either. But they don't do the voting.

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06-23-2011, 03:24 PM
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Yes, Chara hit on Patches probably did cost him a Norris but it cost the Habs a Cup. On other hand, - definitely won it for the Bruins!

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06-23-2011, 05:32 PM
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He won a leadership award so I would say a firm no.

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06-23-2011, 05:45 PM
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can we please stop this.

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06-23-2011, 06:52 PM
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From a post on HIO

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NORRIS: Lidstrom (736), Weber (727), Chara (688), Visnovsky (573), Yandle (312)

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06-23-2011, 07:21 PM
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If it was that close,it probably cost him from the Canadian bloc of voters

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06-23-2011, 09:57 PM
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If it was that close,it probably cost him from the Canadian bloc of voters
It was very close and Chara actually got 33 first place votes vs. Lidstrom's 35 and Weber's 32.

I think it hurt him for sure. Regardless of whether or not folks think he's overrated or not, I think people that there are probably voters out there who would've have voted for him this year but didn't. A lot of people were disgusted with that hit.

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06-23-2011, 10:44 PM
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if Chara didn't win the Cup, he would have not gotten as many votes.

And if Chara didn't hit Max, chances are higher that we would of beat Boston... seeing how it went to OT in game 7 and Max was our top winger.

so ya, in retrospect, I think not only were some voters maybe bitter about the hit, but they also realized that he would not have been as considered if not for that that dirty play.

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06-23-2011, 10:45 PM
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No. People were going to get Lidstrom to win regardless.

Lidstrom pretty much has to completely suck in order to not win. Even then, he'd probably finish 3rd.

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06-23-2011, 10:47 PM
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I dont think the Pac incident has anything to do with that

Lidstrom was born to win Norris every season, and Chara is overrated IMHO

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06-23-2011, 11:01 PM
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As a bruin's fan i don't think it mattered. I do however feel shea webber got shafted. Norris shoulda been : webber, chara, then nick.

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06-23-2011, 11:04 PM
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to add more to my previous post, i think lidstrom got voted for one reason: half the voters thought he was retiring and wanted to see him go out on top.

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06-23-2011, 11:04 PM
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I don't think the hit had anything to do with Chara not winning the Norris...every GM in the league knows that Chara plays a dirty, physical game....so I'm sure none of them were shocked enough by the hit to sway their vote one way or the other.

Lidstrom deserved the Norris because at 40 years old, he had one of the best seasons of his career and has been consistantly great on the blueline for the Wings for many years.

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06-24-2011, 06:30 AM
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It was very close and Chara actually got 33 first place votes vs. Lidstrom's 35 and Weber's 32.

I think it hurt him for sure. Regardless of whether or not folks think he's overrated or not, I think people that there are probably voters out there who would've have voted for him this year but didn't. A lot of people were disgusted with that hit.
That said,it's too bad we didn't sign him as a UFA instead of the B's. I know,once again,hindsight is 20/20.We say that alot around here

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06-24-2011, 07:23 AM
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Since when do the leagues cares about his injured players? If they'd do, they'd have harsher punishments.....It's purely a decision based on his play. It's not like he was blown out and only got 1% of the vote.....

Besides, he was not a Lady Bing nominee wasn't he?

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06-24-2011, 07:27 AM
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Since when do the leagues cares about his injured players? If they'd do, they'd have harsher punishments.....It's purely a decision based on his play. It's not like he was blown out and only got 1% of the vote.....

Besides, he was not a Lady Bing nominee wasn't he?
With Shanahan taking an active role,I think that will change,hopefully

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06-24-2011, 08:53 AM
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Yes, Chara hit on Patches probably did cost him a Norris but it cost the Habs a Cup. On other hand, - definitely won it for the Bruins!
The Bruins might or might not have won a Cup if Pacioretty hadn't been injured but you're going too far when you say it cost the Habs a Cup. You're assuming the Habs would have eliminated not only the Bruins but also two other higher ranked teams in the East and then Vancouver.

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As others here it seems, I don't think he should have even been in the top three. So no the hit didn't cause him to loose the Norris.

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06-24-2011, 09:16 AM
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Surprised so many say no. It probably did.

The Habs response to the Pacioretty hit and Boston gooning it up in the game where there were all those fights wasto dive whenever they could to get power plays and try and have Price steal the series. I can't say I blame them. And they were pretty obvious and blatant about it, the diving in game 7 was shameful.

The NHL almost let them do it to the Bruins and stick it to them. Refs gave Montreal Game 6, there probably would have been a Vancouver style riot if we eliminated them in MOntreal.

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06-24-2011, 09:17 AM
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Sorry I thought this was the main board disregard the last part. Saw it in the Division section and clicked the thread my fault.

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06-24-2011, 09:19 AM
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Surprised so many say no. It probably did.

The Habs response to the Pacioretty hit and Boston gooning it up in the game where there were all those fights wasto dive whenever they could to get power plays and try and have Price steal the series. I can't say I blame them. And they were pretty obvious and blatant about it, the diving in game 7 was shameful.

The NHL almost let them do it to the Bruins and stick it to them. Refs gave Montreal Game 6, there probably would have been a Vancouver style riot if we eliminated them in MOntreal.
Yeah Recchi, Marchand, and Bergeron dove a tonne in that game.

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Surprised so many say no. It probably did.

The Habs response to the Pacioretty hit and Boston gooning it up in the game where there were all those fights wasto dive whenever they could to get power plays and try and have Price steal the series. I can't say I blame them. And they were pretty obvious and blatant about it, the diving in game 7 was shameful.

The NHL almost let them do it to the Bruins and stick it to them. Refs gave Montreal Game 6, there probably would have been a Vancouver style riot if we eliminated them in MOntreal.


Oh look, another sheep, blindly slurping up the verbal diarrhea that Jack Edwards feeds him.

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06-24-2011, 09:58 AM
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At no point did any voting members think of his hit on Pacioretty as a determining factor to vote against him, to think otherwise would be quite foolish.

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06-24-2011, 10:18 AM
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I'm sure it may have swayed the French Media to not cast a vote for him. But then again, if they are as bitter as most of the posters in this thread, they would'nt have voted for him anyways.

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