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06-24-2011, 08:17 AM
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What will the lines look like now that there is so much depth down the middle???

I was thinking something like this...

Umby - Carter - Nash

Vermette - Brassard - Huselius (or another scoring winger if we manage to trade him)

Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett

MacKenzie - Johanson - Upshall (I'd love to resign him)


I don't know... I'm baffled. Only real line I like is Umby/Carter/Nash...

Any input???

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I know everyone is pairing up Nash and Carter, but I think its 60/40 that this really happens.

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Or... is the "Brassard is still on the block and could be traded" be true...

Umby - Carter - Nash

Vermette - Johanson - Huselius

Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett

??? - MacKenzie - ???


Boll

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What will the lines look like now that there is so much depth down the middle???

I was thinking something like this...

Umby - Carter - Nash

Vermette - Brassard - Huselius (or another scoring winger if we manage to trade him)

Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett

MacKenzie - Johanson - Upshall (I'd love to resign him)


I don't know... I'm baffled. Only real line I like is Umby/Carter/Nash...

Any input???

Dorsett would not belong above Upshall if he was resigned.

I wouldn't play Brass and Calvert together.

Pahlsson on the fourth, where he belongs

I almost think you have to play Juice with Nash on the first line...

Calvert-Umberger-Upshall.....

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I know everyone is pairing up Nash and Carter, but I think its 60/40 that this really happens.
So...

Umby - Johanson - Nash

Vermette - Carter - Huselius

?????????

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The simplest solution to the center logjam is to send Johanson down...

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Dorsett would not belong above Upshall if he was resigned.

I wouldn't play Brass and Calvert together.

Pahlsson on the fourth, where he belongs

I almost think you have to play Juice with Nash on the first line...

Calvert-Umberger-Upshall.....
I don't think of 3rd line as above 4th line... 3rd line is a checking line, shutdown line and Dorsett brings some scrap to the line... but I agree. If re-signed, Upshall is a better player than Dorsett and deserves more ice time.

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The simplest solution to the center logjam is to send Johanson down...
Back to juniors??? He can't play in AHL, too young right?

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Revised: Because some of my first post in this didn't make sense when I thought of it again


Nash-Carter-Huselius

Umberger-Brassard-Calvert

Vermette-Johansen-Upshall

Mackenzie-Pahlsson-Dorsett/Boll

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My centers will be

Carter or Brass
Brass or Carter
Vermette
MacKenzie

Now if Johansen has a great camp and there is no way they can keep him off the team everything changes.

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Back to juniors??? He can't play in AHL, too young right?
Yes, he would have to go back Portland.

If they are intent on keeping him up here, I would resist the urge to move him up the lineup unless he completely sets the league on fire....

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What will the lines look like now that there is so much depth down the middle???

I was thinking something like this...

Umby - Carter - Nash

Vermette - Brassard - Huselius (or another scoring winger if we manage to trade him)

Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett

MacKenzie - Johanson - Upshall (I'd love to resign him)


I don't know... I'm baffled. Only real line I like is Umby/Carter/Nash...

Any input???
How about:

Nash-Carter-Huselius (or some other pass-first forward, perhaps even Vermy?)
Umberger-Brassard-Vermette
Calvert-MacKenzie/Johansen-Upshall (if not resigned, Dorsett/Kubalik/Atkinson/Wilson)
Boll-Pahlsson-MacKenzie/Johansen

Let's hope that we're working on defensive pairings very soon, as well!

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What will the lines look like now that there is so much depth down the middle???

I was thinking something like this...

Umby - Carter - Nash

Vermette - Brassard - Huselius (or another scoring winger if we manage to trade him)

Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett

MacKenzie - Johanson - Upshall (I'd love to resign him)


I don't know... I'm baffled. Only real line I like is Umby/Carter/Nash...

Any input???
Too many unknowns at this point. For example, Filatov, Atkinson, Kubilak could feasibly make the team. I have been a Filatov homer since the day we drafted him , and I will admit it. I think last season was a throw away due to his injuries. I think we see a different Filatov this season.

Pahlsson, Brassard, or Vermette, I expect one to be moved, most likely Pahlsson.

Ideally, I would like to see in the future

Filatov Carter Nash

Umberger Johansen Huselieus/Hemsky (Assuming we package Huse to the oil)

Calvert Brassard Kubilak/Upshall

Dorsett Mckenzie Boll

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My centers will be

Carter or Brass
Brass or Carter
Vermette
MacKenzie

Now if Johansen has a great camp and there is no way they can keep him off the team everything changes.
You also have Pahlsson in the mix... he's got a year left on contract.

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You also have Pahlsson in the mix... he's got a year left on contract.
I believe he will be moved, but if hes not he will take Mackenzie's spot and Mackenzie moves to wing.

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The odds of Johansen staying got a little thinner. We actually have the quality depth to let him fill his whole game out. He can win a scoring title, Memorial Cup, WJC, etc. and not be set back at all. Schenn didn't seem to take any steps back.

The bottom six gets interesting, though. Some combination of Calvert, Mac, Pahlsson, Dorsett, Kubalik, Upshall, and Boll. I'd like to see Pahlsson's money disappear, and Edmonton seemingly would take him for a pick. Gives us some extra cash to throw at a defenseman. Mac can fill Pahlsson's role just fine, and provides a more dynamic third line option.

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I think you have to start off with trying Nash & Carter on the first line together. If it doesn't work then make adjustments accordingly.

I'm in favor of rolling 3 scoring lines, myself. I would go with something like this:

Nash Carter Umberger

Huselius Brassard Calvert (I kind of like the potential of this line)

Vermette Johansen Upshall (resign him, dangit!)

Mackenzie Pahlsson Dorsett

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my guess

Nash Carter Huselius
Filatov Brassard Umberger
Calvert Vermette Upshall/ Johansen
MacKenzie Pahlson Dorsett/Boll/Mayorov

Hedja (if resigned) #1 FA
Methot #2 FA
Clitsome Russell

Moore Holden Savard

We have some pieces to work with offensively, depending on camp:

It is our d corp that needs an infusion of talent - I can't see putting together the offense that we have if you aren't going to try to sign an Erhoff or Bieksa, or trade for a puckmover.

#1 Power play:

Nash Johansen Umberger

Carter Russell

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What will the lines look like now that there is so much depth down the middle???

I was thinking something like this...

Umby - Carter - Nash

Vermette - Brassard - Huselius (or another scoring winger if we manage to trade him)

Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett

MacKenzie - Johanson - Upshall (I'd love to resign him)


I don't know... I'm baffled. Only real line I like is Umby/Carter/Nash...

Any input???
I'd guess it will start out

Huselius - Carter- Nash

Umberger - Brassard - Vermette

Calvert - Johansen - Dorsett

signing - Pahlsson - Boll

Mackenzie

Alternate

Huselius - Carter- Nash

Calvert- Brassard - Umberger

Mayorov - Vermette - Johansen

Dorsett - Pahlsson - Boll

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Don't let me kill your fun.... But this isn't even a topic until the end of the first week of July, at a minimum.

You are working without the full picture. A few things can still change.

I'd shelf this bad boy for now, but obviously line combos are some odd obsession I have never understood. Honestly, I don't even see anything that resembles a conundrum.

I'm more interested in what the defense is going to look like, as opposed to what the top six is going to look like. The top six will be, most likely, in flux until the end of camp.

I mean we have someone putting DM as the 13th forward... Geez. I certainly wouldn't use Dorse as one of the bookends for Johansen.

Man, I so hope we trade Pahlsson so we can stop having people include in on the 4th line. Seriously if we are going to use him for 8 minutes of 5 on 5 and the PK, we might as well do re-entry waivers in desperation (if we can't move him) and save ourselves a few dollars.


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Too many question marks....

Too many moving pieces...

It a lot of fun to speculate but at this point in time mostly a crap shoot.

Juice-Carter-Nash
Vermette-Brass-Umberger

From here on Just guess.....

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Don't let me kill your fun.... But this isn't even a topic until the end of the first week of July, at a minimum.

You are working without the full picture. A few things can still change.

I'd shelf this bad boy for now, but obviously line combos are some odd obsession I have never understood. Honestly, I don't even see anything that resembles a conundrum.

I'm more interested in what the defense is going to look like, as opposed to what the top six is going to look like. The top six will be, most likely, in flux until the end of camp.
Agree with this, especially the bolded. If this is a conundrum, sign me up for Camp Conundrum.

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I do not know how the camp will be so i count with 100% achievments of all guys. Plus I count with the trade Brassard for d-man.

Huselius--Carter--Nash
Umberger--Vermette--Calvert
Filatov--Johansen--Upshall
Mayorov--MacKenzie--Boll

if players play good so later the first line could be:

Filatov--Carter--Nash

but IMO Nash and carter will not play together in the future. If our prospect fill their potential the roster could be /future not this season/:

Umberger--Johansen--Nash
Filatov--Carter--Atkinson
Calvert--Vermette--Kubalík
Mayorov--MacKenzie--Boll

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The odds of Johansen staying got a little thinner. We actually have the quality depth to let him fill his whole game out. He can win a scoring title, Memorial Cup, WJC, etc. and not be set back at all. Schenn didn't seem to take any steps back.

The bottom six gets interesting, though. Some combination of Calvert, Mac, Pahlsson, Dorsett, Kubalik, Upshall, and Boll. I'd like to see Pahlsson's money disappear, and Edmonton seemingly would take him for a pick. Gives us some extra cash to throw at a defenseman. Mac can fill Pahlsson's role just fine, and provides a more dynamic third line option.
I disagree, Arniel wants 3 skill lines. This now allows him to start Johansen as 3rd line center. Pahlsson will be moved most likely, or Vermette. I will be absolutely shocked if Johan is sent back to Portland. Heck last season in camp, he truly looked like he could hang, and that was before he blew up and became one of the best prospect in all of hockey. The buzz around him is ridicolous.

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I do not know how the camp will be so i count with 100% achievments of all guys. Plus I count with the trade Brassard for d-man.

Huselius--Carter--Nash
Umberger--Vermette--Calvert
Filatov--Johansen--Upshall
Mayorov--MacKenzie--Boll

if players play good so later the first line could be:

Filatov--Carter--Nash

but IMO Nash and carter will not play together in the future. If our prospect fill their potential the roster could be /future not this season/:

Umberger--Johansen--Nash
Filatov--Carter--Atkinson
Calvert--Vermette--Kubalík
Mayorov--MacKenzie--Boll
Eva- I want to see a Carter Filatov pairing. Filatov can be an elite passer and both have wicked shots. I know this would make you very happy.

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