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06-21-2011, 12:22 PM
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What if the team had other UFA players in mind that they wanted to sign ( outside of Richards)...the Drury summer cap hit doesn't help at all.
there are no other ufas worth signing so if we can't do that then its a good thing.

and we can buyout wolski to clear the same cap space that buying out drury would have

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Posted this in the Offseason thread, no one got back to me...(I don't think anyone reads that thread anymore ) so I thought I'd repost here to see what people think.

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Just purely out of curiosity here, would doing another annual trade with PHX for Brett MacLean be a bad idea?

Before I get flamed, I've never seen the guy play, so if he's no good, forget it. But from looking at his stats (which is no way to judge a player, I know), he looks like exactly the type of scoring winger this team is missing. Is that a correct assumption or no? If he is a scorer, he might look good on the 2nd line as a LW. If someone who's seen him play somewhat regularly could give me a rundown that'd be great.

Perhaps a trade like Valentenko and a pick for MacLean would get it done? Thanks in advance.

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06-22-2011, 10:54 AM
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Posted this in the Offseason thread, no one got back to me...(I don't think anyone reads that thread anymore ) so I thought I'd repost here to see what people think.
You should watch a player play before considering swapping assets for him.

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06-22-2011, 11:28 AM
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You should watch a player play before considering swapping assets for him.
You could answer his question. He was up-front about not seeing him play. He was looking around and the kid caught his eye, not a big deal. That's the point of this board. Discussion.

His skating I believe is sub-par RB, from what I remember reading about him.

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I'm still having a hard time understanding how the Drury situation can help with anything other than in season acquisitions...
Simple (and some of this has been stated already, but bear with me). Redden eats up our entire off-season cushion, so we're acting in the off-season with basically the same budget as we would in-season. BUT, generally speaking, the in-season totals of all salaries are higher than your off-season total. Why is that? Well, let's use this team as an example. We generally feel that Tim Erixon will be on the team's opening night lineup. That's $1.75m. A similar thing is true for Hagelin, Valentenko or any other rookie that has yet to play in the NHL. We also figure that McDonagh will be on the roster. His summer cap hit is about $600k less than his regular season hit. Similar things go for MZA, MDZ and Grachev in the case that all three make the team.

Think of it this way: knowing that Drury is going on LTIR gives the team the flexibility to do what they want to do in the off-season without worrying about the bumps in Cap hit that you'll see when we transition from Summer Cap to Season Cap. In effect, they can pretty much pay their RFAs slightly more, if they need to, because they know that if they spend right up to the Summer Cap, the "Drury Cushion" will cover everything else once the season begins.

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06-22-2011, 11:49 PM
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Just purely out of curiosity here, would doing another annual trade with PHX for Brett MacLean be a bad idea?

Before I get flamed, I've never seen the guy play, so if he's no good, forget it. But from looking at his stats (which is no way to judge a player, I know), he looks like exactly the type of scoring winger this team is missing. Is that a correct assumption or no? If he is a scorer, he might look good on the 2nd line as a LW. If someone who's seen him play somewhat regularly could give me a rundown that'd be great.

Perhaps a trade like Valentenko and a pick for MacLean would get it done? Thanks in advance.
He looks to me like a guy who will be a journeyman. Phoenix desperately needs scoring forwards. His inabiity to make their team speaks volumes.

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06-23-2011, 03:04 PM
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NHL salary cap has officially been set at $64.3 million upper limit; $48.3 million lower limit
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06-23-2011, 04:12 PM
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It just kept going up little by little.

We have plenty of money to spend, and the deals are starting to go down.

Looking forward to what cigar man has up his sleeve.

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No word on Kolarik's deal yet. Updated the bottom line and moved Talbot to the right position.

Forwards
NameCap HitTypeDays
Marian Gaborik7,500,000One-wayN/A
Chris Drury7,050,000One-wayN/A
Wojtek Wolski3,800,000One-wayN/A
Sean Avery1,937,500One-wayN/A
Brandon Prust800,000One-wayN/A
Erik Christensen925,000One-wayN/A
Derek Stepan875,000Two-wayFull
Mats Zuccarello940,860Two-way100
Evgeny Grachev70,251Two-way16
Kris Newbury93,683Two-way34
Total23,992,294
 
Defensemen
NameCap HitTypeDays
Wade Redden6,500,000One-wayN/A
Marc Staal3,975,000One-wayN/A
Dan Girardi3,325,000One-wayN/A
Michael DelZotto689,919Two-way98
Ryan McDonagh684,946Two-way118
Total15,174,865
 
Goaltenders
NameCap HitTypeDays
Henrik Lundqvist6,875,000One-wayN/A
Martin Biron875,000One-wayN/A
Cam Talbot4,839Two-way1
Total7,754,839
 

Totals
Cap HitCap Ceiling10% CushionCap Space
$46,921,998$64,300,000$70,730,000$23,808,002

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06-23-2011, 05:19 PM
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The Rangers have a boatload of money to spend. $24M in summer cap space. $25M in the regular season cap which includes Drury's $7.05M and Christensen's $925,000. Then spend Drury's $7.05M on LTI. I updated my spreadsheets. $70,730,000 summer cap. I had to double check it.

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Ok so one more time for confirmation. Even with Drury still on the books, we can afford to sign Callahan, Dubinsky, Sauer, Boyle, Arty, and Richards, yes? I just wanna be sure.

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Ok so one more time for confirmation. Even with Drury still on the books, we can afford to sign Callahan, Dubinsky, Sauer, Boyle, Arty, and Richards, yes? I just wanna be sure.
Easily.

And still have money left over.

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06-23-2011, 07:06 PM
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So just to clarify and double check....it means we have plenty of money to sign all our RFA's and Brad Richards...while once camp comes around and Drury either goes on LTIR or retires, he comes off the cap and we get no hit that a buyout would cause?

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Easily.

And still have money left over.
Damn and here I was thinking we had no space left

I'll take it

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So to find out the summer cap-hit of a player on a two-way contract, you take his normal cap-hit, divide it by 186, and then multiply by the amount of days on the roster? I thought you just use his full cap-hit.

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So according to my calculations, we have $23,667,061 in cap space during the summer?

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Summer cap begins on page 201 in the CBA

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(5) For any Player under a Two-Way SPC, the NHL
portion of the SPC will be counted at a rate
reflective of the Player's time on an NHL Roster
(including days on Injured Reserve, Injured Non
Roster and Non Roster status) the prior League
Year so that, for example, a Player who spent forty-
six (46) days on an NHL Roster (including days on
Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster and Non
Roster status) in a 184-day regular season, and has a
Two-Way SPC for $500,000 (NHL) / $50,000
(AHL), the portion of his NHL Salary and Bonuses
that will count for off-season account ing purposes
will be 46/184 x $500,000 = $125,000; plus
Qualifying offers work the same way. 2 way QO. NHL days from the prior season count against the summer cap.

NHL season is usually 186 days.

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So just to clarify and double check....it means we have plenty of money to sign all our RFA's and Brad Richards...while once camp comes around and Drury either goes on LTIR or retires, he comes off the cap and we get no hit that a buyout would cause?
Drury does not come off the cap on long term IR. The Rangers will be allowed to exceed the $64.3M upper limit by $7.05M. The Rangers have to be at or near the upper limit to benefit from Drury's money on long term IR. Contract expires after 11-12 and the Rangers don't have the cap hit on their books.

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The interesting part is not the present, but what will happen to the cap roof - and the league as a whole - when the crash royale (we're talking 1929 all over again, only worse) hits the United States. And the world.

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If we didn't have Drury and Redden we'd have 37.3m in summer cap space....lol

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I'm going to wake up tomorrow and the upper limit will have increased to $65 million.

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Drury does not come off the cap on long term IR. The Rangers will be allowed to exceed the $64.3M upper limit by $7.05M. The Rangers have to be at or near the upper limit to benefit from Drury's money on long term IR. Contract expires after 11-12 and the Rangers don't have the cap hit on their books.
Oh alright so if were at 64M, we can go 7M over no problem. So really this is a win/win in the drury stuff, whether he retires or goes on LTIR, we dont have to deal with the buyout hits or any extra cap hits and we still get to spend money.

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Oh alright so if were at 64M, we can go 7M over no problem. So really this is a win/win in the drury stuff, whether he retires or goes on LTIR, we dont have to deal with the buyout hits or any extra cap hits and we still get to spend money.
But we would have to wait to put him on the LTIR to go over and by then, all the top free agents will be signed.

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Chad Kolarik

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#rangers Chad Kolarik 2 years / 1.05 total (2 way)
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$525,000 NHL minimum

6 days on NHL roster

$16,935 summer cap number

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So unless the RFA's turn down the qualifying offers, we have $16,851,006 in cap space, right? This is including Kolarik and Weise contracts.

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