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10-17-2003, 05:38 PM
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Who do you feel is the most under-rated player or goalie in the NHL today?

My vote goes to: Cory Stillman (TB)
Consistantly worth 25 goals a season and probably 50pts a season. He's not small and he's cheap. Why Calgary traded him ... why Louis traded him I don't understand. 8)

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goalie: Dunham

player: i feel whitney is under-rated

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Goal - Vokoun
Defense - Kuba
Forward - Demitra

I know that Demitra gets respect, but he's not generally considered to be on a level with Sakic, Modano, Floppa et al. Even Sundin gets his name thrown around as "best in the world" but you never hear anyone argue the case for PD.

Kuba's name never comes up anywhere but I think he's the guy flying under the radar right now. Not necessarily an elite level player, but a top notch, versatile, #2 d-man.

My #1 pick overall would be Vokoun - He's always good whenever I've seen him play, he probably lets in the fewest # of weak goals of any goalie out there. If he was playing for a skilled veteran team he'd be a Vezina candidate every year imo.


I think the knock on Stillman is effort/desire. That got him into the doghouse with the coach in Calgary although he was still a very popular teammate if the media buzz was accurate.

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Who do you feel is the most under-rated player or goalie in the NHL today?

My vote goes to: Cory Stillman (TB)
Consistantly worth 25 goals a season and probably 50pts a season. He's not small and he's cheap. Why Calgary traded him ... why Louis traded him I don't understand. 8)

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Hey may not be small, but he sure doesn't use his size, his defense and effort really caused his falling out of favour in Calgary and St. Louis.

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Hey may not be small, but he sure doesn't use his size, his defense and effort really caused his falling out of favour in Calgary and St. Louis.
underrated=hemsky
overrated=torres

no but really...
the most underrated player in the league is PJ Axelson...That guy has skill and is never noted for it

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10-17-2003, 10:33 PM
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underrated=hemsky
overrated=torres

no but really...
the most underrated player in the league is PJ Axelson...That guy has skill and is never noted for it
I don't know Hemsky and Torres each have 4 points in 4 games . I wonder if some of those ludicrously high point totals some people had predicted for Hemsky might come true especially considering we had two shut-out games and both of them still managed 4 points

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I don't know Hemsky and Torres each have 4 points in 4 games . I wonder if some of those ludicrously high point totals some people had predicted for Hemsky might come true especially considering we had two shut-out games and both of them still managed 4 points
well they both are on pace for 82 points at home...and 0 on the road...lmao

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well they both are on pace for 82 points at home...and 0 on the road...lmao
I'd take that, not that I think we'll see it.

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under - reasoner (home slant) or regher (i hate to like flames players though)
over - kovalev

with regard to stillman: he is not cheap (2,750,000) and has never seen the defensive side of the blueline. that's why he keeps getting moved.

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Underrated FWDs

Peter Bondra (one of the best players in the league, no credit)
Freddy Modin (Absolute Sniper)
Mark Parrish (very good hockey player, shoulda got him in the Janni deal)

Underrated D-men

Adrian Aucoin (a horse, but trapped in NYI)
Mike Rathje (solid and reliable, HUGE)
Andy Delmore (big-time difference-maker)

Underrated G's

Martin Biron (wish he played here right now)
Jeff Hackett (he'll be great in Philly, but still get blamed when their overrated lineup falls short)
Manny Legace (there never should've been a goalie controversy in Detroit, Manny should be their #1)

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Who do you feel is the most under-rated player or goalie in the NHL today?

My vote goes to: Cory Stillman (TB)
Consistantly worth 25 goals a season and probably 50pts a season. He's not small and he's cheap. Why Calgary traded him ... why Louis traded him I don't understand. 8)

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because the guy Calgary got for him has outscored him since the trade and is a high end defensive forward?

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because the guy Calgary got for him has outscored him since the trade and is a high end defensive forward?
true

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Goal:

Tomas Vokoun
Andrew Raycroft (yeah, he played just a handful of games, but i believe in him)

Defense:
Adrian Aucoin
Willie Mitchell


Offense:
Wes Walz
PJ Axelsson
Mike Sillinger (i think he never got credit for his solid performances)

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True enough Conroy has been solid for the Flames. I think that was a great suprise for the flames. I had totally forgotten about that.

Still, the guy get no respect ... and these days 2.7 isn't bad for a 25 goal guy ... as we speak he already has 4pts in 2 games and has been a pretty good pickup for TB As far as I've seen all he needs is a coach to push him.

I do agree with Legace. Good one.

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There's too many to make a list, but here's some that didn't get mention already:

D- Mattias Norstrom
F- Andrew Brunette
G- Marc Denis

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