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06-25-2011, 11:06 AM
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Round 3: Pick #72 (Steven Fogarty, C/W)

Player:

Steve Fogarty (US HS, Forward)

POSITION: CENTER
SHOOTS: RIGHT
HEIGHT: 6' 2"
WEIGHT: 194
BORN: APRIL 19, 1993
BORN IN: CHAMBERSBURG, PA, USA
DRAFTED: NYR (3RD ROUND / 72ND OVERALL)

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2010-2011 Edina High HIGH-MN 24 23G 17A 40P 12PIM

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Steven Fogarty, C Edina H.S. (Minnesota)- Underrated and skilled centerman with size makes his B2011DW debut on this post and has some real interesting long-term potential. The proverbial rink rat who eats, sleeps, breathes hockey- Fogarty finished his HS career at Edina and then jumped to the Chicago Steel of the USHL, where he's been drinking from the fire hose of late. You have to credit the kid for risking his draft stock a little, which was pretty high given how well he played as a senior, by going to the USHL where his lack of strength and defensive awareness is being exposed a bit on a weak team and against older, stronger players. Still, there is a lot to like about this playmaking pivot who has a long stride and gets up the ice quickly. He has soft hands and superb vision for finding teammates in open ice. His work ethic is laudable- he wants to play and loves to compete; goes above and beyond to make himself better and put himself into situations that will put him in position to improve. He's raw and needs significant work, but will spend the entire 2011-12 season in the USHL. At 6-1, 195, he's got the physical tools to be a solid NHL prospect and watch for him to go relatively high (3rd-4th rounds) in the draft.

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You want high risk – high reward? Steve Fogarty is it.

He was a key cog and leader for Edina, one of the best teams in MN HS Hockey (AA State Champs last year). Committed to Notre Dame for next year.

Has an NHL-ready body at 6-2, 200, and can play either C or Wing. A strong skater, he made some skaters in MN look like they were standing still at times (and MN hockey is a great skating league).

Has the vision to play the point on the PP, and slick hands (can dangle with the best of them), and an NHL-caliber shot. High upside and lots of raw potential.

#19 in White, working the point:


glimpse of speed/finishing abilty:


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Plays a physical brand of hockey, grinding it out on the boards and getting dirty in front of the net. Bullies his way around the ice, excelling at playing a power game. Has the ability to finish in tight and pick up his fair share of garbage goals. Has pretty good hands for a big guy and can stick handle with the best of them. passing could use a bit more touch but this is not a glaring weakness. Does not have elite speed but is a mule on his skates.

Fogarty is a balanced two-way player that is willing to play blue-color hockey. Should get more attention as the draft nears.
http://www.mnhockeyprospects.com/steven-fogarty/

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Stepan-esque boom/bust potential.

I LOVE taking US HSers.

More potential than what Grachev was showing, for sure.

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He looks pretty slow in this video.

Someone call Barbara.

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Centers with size and offensive skill...now that's what I like to see.

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Ugh another college kid.

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Really like this pick.

Not only because we got value for a kid in Grachev who is likely going nowhere fast, but because we got a young, raw american talent.

Kid had one good year with Duchene and Hodgson as a 6'3 footer in the OHL. He proceeded to do jack after that.

He is not far off from Kreider in what he accomplished in high school. Add that to a great, and I mean great- very underrated- NCAA hockey program, and you have a good pick.

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Ugh another college kid.

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Fogarty can be downright MEAN at times. This is a really, really good pick in the 3rd round.

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Is there any chance he can reconcile with John so the Creedence Clearwater Revival reunion can finally happen?

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So, USHL next year then off to Notre Dame for 2012-2013?

Means he's most likely three years away from the AHL and 5 from the NHL...

I'll take Jonathan's word on this pick with the good raw potential, but he's got a helluva long way to go to the NHL it seems.

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Fogarty can be downright MEAN at times. This is a really, really good pick in the 3rd round.
This appears to be the direction Clark and Gorton are headed. I love taking a chance on a kid like this at this spot. Grachev was likely bypassed by Hagelin...think about it, the Rangers got just about the same value for Grachev that the Blue Jackets got for Filatov, when Filatov went two rounds ahead of Grachev in the same draft.

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I'll repeat what i said in the other thread.

Reminds me of Andrew Yogan.

Lateral move, Grachev fell on the depth chart, Grachev goes to an organization where he will have a better chance, we pick a player with a lot of upside.

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What wing does he play?

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Yeah nothing wrong with another five year college project...I prefer the Rangers choose players from the CHL. I think St. Croix will end up being a better player than Fogarty and contribute more to the club.

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Yeah nothing wrong with another five year college project...I prefer the Rangers choose players from the CHL. I think St. Croix will end up being a better player than Fogarty and contribute more to the club.
Only 5 years if he isn't good enough to make the pro jump...

NCAA players are able to go pro at a younger age than CHL... common misconception is that it is the other way around.

If Christian Thomas had played his first year in the NCAA he would actually be able to play in the AHL where he belongs next season instead of stuck in the canadian juniors which he dominates and learns nothing.

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If Christian Thomas had played his first year in the NCAA he would actually be able to play in the AHL where he belongs next season instead of stuck in the canadian juniors which he dominates and learns nothing.
But his stats will be way more fun to watch! And automatically indicate way more offensive upside.

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What wing does he play?
Typically LW if he plays it, but in HS was primarily a C.

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Only 5 years if he isn't good enough to make the pro jump...

NCAA players are able to go pro at a younger age than CHL... common misconception is that it is the other way around.

If Christian Thomas had played his first year in the NCAA he would actually be able to play in the AHL where he belongs next season instead of stuck in the canadian juniors which he dominates and learns nothing.
While I have nothing against going to school (I'm going to college this fall), if you entered the NHL draft and want to play in the NHL, your priority should be to make the NHL team. I'm not saying he will screw us over or anything, but as we have seen more recently with Kreider, some players like having extended stays with their college program. It could just ruin their development. Kreider is too good to play in the NCAA. He needs to be developing his game against men in the AHL. However, he chose to continue playing at BC. He could have easily finished getting his degree with summer courses.

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While I have nothing against going to school (I'm going to college this fall), if you entered the NHL draft and want to play in the NHL, your priority should be to make the NHL team. I'm not saying he will screw us over or anything, but as we have seen more recently with Kreider, some players like having extended stays with their college program. It could just ruin their development. Kreider is too good to play in the NCAA. He needs to be developing his game against men in the AHL. However, he chose to continue playing at BC. He could have easily finished getting his degree with summer courses.
if he was too good for college, kreider would have been a PPG+ player in ncaa.

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Really good pick in this spot. Surprised they gave up on Grachev so soon, but Fogarty has a lot of upside if he can add some polish to his game.

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