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06-25-2011, 02:05 PM
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Except that Gainey sent a roster player & prospect for a 29 year old 58 point player.

Gomez is now a 38 point 31 year old player. There is a big diffence between the two. The fact that you don't realize that is lol.
31 is not old for a hockey player. Look at UFA's that are 30-31-32 they all get big money and term...not 1 year deals at reduced rates, because GM's know they usually have 4-5 years in the tank.

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Phoenix must really be pressing to not be a doormat to have any interest in Gomez. He's the last guy I'd take on without getting some goods along with that dead cap space.

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What fairy tale book are you reading?
Why would that be a fairy tale?

I don't know of too many examples of hockey players that suddenly are finished at 31.

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31 is not old for a hockey player. Look at UFA's that are 30-31-32 they all get big money and term...not 1 year deals at reduced rates, because GM's know they usually have 4-5 years in the tank.
Show me a 31 year old UFA that got big money for a 38 point season.


FYI there were 57 centres in the league who had more points than Gomez last year. There were also a lot of centres below him in scoring that I would take over Gomez in a heart beat. He isn't as in demand as you are dreaming.

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Are we uniting the Pyatt bros?

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Show me a 31 year old UFA that got big money for a 38 point season.


FYI there were 57 centres in the league who had more points than Gomez last year. There were also a lot of centres below him in scoring that I would take over Gomez in a heart beat. He isn't as in demand as you are dreaming.
and only one of them was on Phoenix roster -> 33 yo UFA Eric Belanger with 40 pts...

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wasn't there also a baseball trade maybe in the 80's, for a washing machine? or an RV/bus? or was that on the simpsons...idk

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06-25-2011, 02:14 PM
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Show me a 31 year old UFA that got big money for a 38 point season.


FYI there were 57 centres in the league who had more points than Gomez last year. There were also a lot of centres below him in scoring that I would take over Gomez in a heart beat. He isn't as in demand as you are dreaming.
It's not wether he had a good or bad year...that happens to 23, 24 and 25 year olds too...the point is that his skills are the same as when he was 31.

If Gomez was a UFA in the current market he'd get about 4.5-5 mil for 3-5 years.

Laich had his worst offenive year in his UFA year and he'll still get good money.

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06-25-2011, 02:15 PM
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Phoenix doesn't seem to have a problem contract, where we could say, you take mine, and I'll take yours...
rosival? he's only got 1 year left but i can't imagine their thrilled paying him 5M$.

maybe something like this gets the conversation started:

To Phx
Gomez
Pyatt
Pouliot

To Mtl
Rosival


Markov-Rosival
Gorges-Subban

would be a solid top-4, replacing Wiz while keeping things open for next summer (room for emelin/weber to emmerge as a top-4).

phoenix takes on a big contract this year, but the next 2 are very manageable, plus they get two cheap fwds, one with top-6 potential, the other an excellent role player related to a roster player.

would force us to go out and get at least 1-2 UFA's, but free's up a solid bit of cap space to do so.

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06-25-2011, 02:19 PM
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and only one of them was on Phoenix roster -> 33 yo UFA Eric Belanger with 40 pts...
If I'm Maloney, I go after Tim Connolly, Jason Arnott, Michael Handzus, Brooks Laich before I give up assets for Gomez.

If I'm going to give up assets, I also would rather go after guys like TJ Oshie, Stephen Weiss, Jarret Stoll before I go after Gomez.

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06-25-2011, 02:22 PM
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If I'm Maloney, I go after Tim Connolly, Jason Arnott, Michael Handzus, Brooks Laich before I give up assets for Gomez.

If I'm going to give up assets, I also would rather go after guys like TJ Oshie, Stephen Weiss, Jarret Stoll before I go after Gomez.
and if you're Arnott, Handzus, Connolly or Laich... are you that interested in playing for the Yotes ?

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If Gomez was a UFA in the current market he'd get about 4.5-5 mil for 3-5 years.

Laich had his worst offenive year in his UFA year and he'll still get good money.
Brooks Laich scored 26% more points than Gomez this year.

If Laich gets $4.5m, then Gomez would theoretically get 26% less which is $3.3m which I think is what he is roughly worth.

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How far below the 48million floor are the Coyotes?

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and if you're Arnott, Handzus, Connolly or Laich... are you that interested in playing for the Yotes ?
For $5m yes I am. They are a competitive team and they are 100% not ever moving to Winnipeg. The mess and worry about moving to Winnipeg is behind them.

At $5m, those players are better value than Gomez is.

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Gomez dead cap next year is the value

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06-25-2011, 02:31 PM
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who's best season since is -> 13 goals...
Tied with Gomez, lol

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Gomez dead cap next year is the value
I am not sure if this is going to sound completely ridiculous but after the FA period is over .. Gomez could be one of the most valuable contracts in the league .. lol

There are a lot of teams that are 20million + under the cap floor at the moment and Gomez's salary vs cap hit is a very good deal for these teams.

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06-25-2011, 02:38 PM
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Not going to even bother day dreaming about this as much as I would love to see the cap space open up with his departure.

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How far below the 48million floor are the Coyotes?
They're at about 31.5 now.

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Gomez + Pouliot
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that would be a dream come true.

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For $5m yes I am. They are a competitive team and they are 100% not ever moving to Winnipeg. The mess and worry about moving to Winnipeg is behind them.

At $5m, those players are better value than Gomez is.
They've lost their goalie, though.
And their D is not getting younger.

Moving in Winnipeg is obviously not possible, but the situation is far from perfect about the future of the franchise.
Money is nice, but i dont think that the situation really changed from last year, and they werent exactly the most attractive destination.

About us, i just dont want to lose Gorges. His value for us is way bigger than his market's one, and dumping Gomez is not that much of a good move if we have to lose him in the process, because he's still an average (very average, but average) 2nd line center.

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06-25-2011, 02:58 PM
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They've lost their goalie, though.
And their D is not getting younger.

Moving in Winnipeg is obviously not possible, but the situation is far from perfect about the future of the franchise.
Money is nice, but i dont think that the situation really changed from last year, and they werent exactly the most attractive destination.
Yea but none of those guys are going to get $5m offers from any other team. Phoenix can afford to give them $5m, others can't.

Also there is a really good chance Vokoun lands in Phoenix. Only Tampa and Colorado don't have starting goalies. I don't see either of those teams giving Vokoun the term he probably wants. Phoenix wouldn't have a problem giving him a 3 year contract imo.

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If I'm Maloney, I go after Tim Connolly, Jason Arnott, Michael Handzus, Brooks Laich before I give up assets for Gomez.

If I'm going to give up assets, I also would rather go after guys like TJ Oshie, Stephen Weiss, Jarret Stoll before I go after Gomez.
Most of those guys will chose a more stable situation and a contender ahead of Phoenix. Easy to say taht they should go after UFA's but if they have to pay big money for junk, might as well get a Gomez.

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Renaud Lavoie just tweeted Belanger isn't being re-signed by the Yotes. More smoke?

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Most of those guys will chose a more stable situation and a contender ahead of Phoenix. Easy to say taht they should go after UFA's but if they have to pay big money for junk, might as well get a Gomez.
Then they'll be paying big money (bigger?) plus assets for junk.

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