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06-27-2011, 12:39 AM
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Savard was monstrously talented and with 139 points as a 17 year old, everyone knew he can score and especially pass.

But he was small, slow and bad defensively, so he slipped.to round 4.
Good take, Thanks Esq.

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5-11 179lbs is not small. Even if that's a bit inflated, he still has time to grow and fill out. This could be the most interesting prospect I follow this next year.

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5-11 179lbs is not small. Even if that's a bit inflated, he still has time to grow and fill out. This could be the most interesting prospect I follow this next year.
Exactly. While I was somewhat intrigued to read about him, I was of course tempering my expectations because people talked about his size in the same breath with Grimaldi. Then, I go look up his vitals and... he's 5'11" and 179? For a kid who JUST turned 18? I'm not saying that's huge, but he's already taller than Cally, Avery and Drury with room, as you say, to grow and fill out.

Comparing him to other draftees that makes him either bigger or roughly the same size as:

1st round:
Nugent-Hopkins 6'0" 171
Strome 6'0" 177
Murphy 5'11" 170
Baertschi 5'10" 181
Namestnikov 5'11" 171
Phillips 6'0" 175

2nd round:
Rattie 5'11" 165
Grimaldi 5'6" 160
Khokhlachev 5'10" 183
Granlund 5'11" 166
Nieto 5'11" 177
Ruutu 6'0" 171
Karlsson 6'0" 163
Kucherov 5'11" 171
Prince 5'10" 181

I'm not sure if he had some crazy growth spurt in the last few months like they say Fogarty did or if for some reason people have reason to believe that he's benefiting from significantly higher stat inflation than everyone else, but on the face of it, he's plenty big enough, especially for his stats on draft day. Hell, those were about my stats graduating HS and I wound up at 6'0" 195 (when in shape, anyway).

Very interesting pick. Love what the team did with this draft.

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06-27-2011, 09:59 AM
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Exactly. While I was somewhat intrigued to read about him, I was of course tempering my expectations because people talked about his size in the same breath with Grimaldi. Then, I go look up his vitals and... he's 5'11" and 179? For a kid who JUST turned 18? I'm not saying that's huge, but he's already taller than Cally, Avery and Drury with room, as you say, to grow and fill out.

Comparing him to other draftees that makes him either bigger or roughly the same size as:

1st round:
Nugent-Hopkins 6'0" 171
Strome 6'0" 177
Murphy 5'11" 170
Baertschi 5'10" 181
Namestnikov 5'11" 171
Phillips 6'0" 175

2nd round:
Rattie 5'11" 165
Grimaldi 5'6" 160
Khokhlachev 5'10" 183
Granlund 5'11" 166
Nieto 5'11" 177
Ruutu 6'0" 171
Karlsson 6'0" 163
Kucherov 5'11" 171
Prince 5'10" 181

I'm not sure if he had some crazy growth spurt in the last few months like they say Fogarty did or if for some reason people have reason to believe that he's benefiting from significantly higher stat inflation than everyone else, but on the face of it, he's plenty big enough, especially for his stats on draft day. Hell, those were about my stats graduating HS and I wound up at 6'0" 195 (when in shape, anyway).

Very interesting pick. Love what the team did with this draft.
Yup...love the approach on the first four picks.

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Size isn't really his problem; It's strength. He's too easily moved off the puck, and he doesn't see a whole lot of time in the corners -- he's an open-ice player. That's not to say that he's "scared" by physical play -- far from it in fact -- but he's more of a kid who will find seams in the ice as opposed to forcing himself into the dirty areas all the time.

I see a little bit of Patrick O'Sullivan in this kid -- sans the baggage of course.

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Size isn't really his problem; It's strength. He's too easily moved off the puck, and he doesn't see a whole lot of time in the corners -- he's an open-ice player. That's not to say that he's "scared" by physical play -- far from it in fact -- but he's more of a kid who will find seams in the ice as opposed to forcing himself into the dirty areas all the time.

I see a little bit of Patrick O'Sullivan in this kid -- sans the baggage of course.
Understood, but he's got more than enough frame to add strength. That's what makes me so optimistic. If you were to tell me that he was 5'8" or 5'9" and 150 or 160 and was easily knocked off the puck, I'd pretty much write the kid off. (It's why I don't hold out much hope for Bourque, despite the fact that he's tenacious as hell.) But at 5'11" and 179 as a recently turned 18 year old, it's just a matter of dedicating himself to improving in that area. For some it's easier than others, but with access to a pro strength coach he should be able to do it, if he's got the will. Lord knows it's a heck of a lot easier than adding skill, speed, agility or even mass.

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