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06-01-2011, 11:13 AM
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The Wings draw like crazy everywhere. There wasn't a lot of stuff to do in Detroit but leave for a long time, given the economy and migration of jobs away from the area.

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06-01-2011, 11:32 AM
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The Wings draw like crazy everywhere. There wasn't a lot of stuff to do in Detroit but leave for a long time, given the economy and migration of jobs away from the area.
The American version of Winnipeg.

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The American version of Winnipeg.
True, although now that the canadian dollar has rebounded well they should be on better footing. Hopefully this does translate, too, into some increased revenues and a nice bump on the salary cap.

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06-01-2011, 10:35 PM
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I thought about Nashville or Columbus moving to the Southeast, Winnipeg to the Northwest, and Colorado to the Central. It doesn't help that Colorado and Dallas are isolated from everyone else. Now that you mention it though, it definitely makes more sense to not break up all the rivalries. Detroit apparently has the rights to be the first team moved to the East though from what I've been hearing.
Columbus media reports there is no such agreement, and that the Jackets and Predators and anybody else have as much of a right to switch conferences as the Red Wings do when the opportunity opens.

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06-01-2011, 10:43 PM
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Columbus media reports there is no such agreement, and that the Jackets and Predators and anybody else have as much of a right to switch conferences as the Red Wings do when the opportunity opens.
That's good to know, up until now I had heard differently from numerous people. The Wings moving to the east only makes sense to balance out the conferences more, not in terms of divisions.

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06-22-2011, 03:14 PM
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Detroit moving east would be the dumbest thing the league could possibly do.
I totally agree.
Detroit vs. Chicago is one of the best rivalries, why would they destroy that

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06-26-2011, 11:32 AM
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Dramatic realignment coming to NHL next season. (...)

The leading plan calls for the league to be divided into four divisions -- two with eight teams and two with seven teams.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...ent-conference

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06-26-2011, 12:25 PM
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If that happens,



(imagine the Thrashers being the Jets in Winnipeg)

This looks like the most likely split according to what they're saying,

Northeast (8)
Montreal, Boston, NYI, NYR, NJ, Ottawa, Toronto, Buffalo
Southeast (8)
Bolts, FLA, Carolina, Washington, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit
Central (7)
Chicago, St. Louis, Nashville, Dallas, Colorado, Minnesota, Winnipeg
Pacific (7)
Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver, San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles, Phoenix

But if they do that there will be 16 Eastern teams and 14 Western teams. That means the Eastern teams will have a reduced chance of making the playoffs and that sucks.

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06-26-2011, 12:51 PM
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If that happens,



(imagine the Thrashers being the Jets in Winnipeg)

This looks like the most likely split according to what they're saying,

Northeast (8)
Montreal, Boston, NYI, NYR, NJ, Ottawa, Toronto, Buffalo
Southeast (8)
Bolts, FLA, Carolina, Washington, Columbus, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit
Central (7)
Chicago, St. Louis, Nashville, Dallas, Colorado, Minnesota, Winnipeg
Pacific (7)
Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver, San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles, Phoenix

But if they do that there will be 16 Eastern teams and 14 Western teams. That means the Eastern teams will have a reduced chance of making the playoffs and that sucks.
If you move Detroit back into the Central then you're probably right. 15 in each conference still.

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06-26-2011, 12:56 PM
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The major problem with all of this talk about how there are 2-3 teams in the west that should be in the east is that they're there for a reason.

I'm not a fan of uneven divisions, and uneven conferences is just ludicrous.

With Winnipeg joining the western conference, that only leaves one opening in the east. If Detroit and Columbus both, they bump someone else to the west that shouldn't be there even more than them.

Unless the league is slyly trying to insinuate they're going to be adding more teams, the divisions would be a mess.

As it was initially reported, the divisions would be called: South, East, Midwest and Pacific.

Let me take a shot at them:

Wales
South - 7
Carolina
Dallas
Florida
Nashville
Philadelphia
Tampa Bay
Washington

East - 8
Boston
Buffalo
Detroit
Montreal
New Jersey
New York I.
New York R.
Ottawa

Campbell
Midwest- 7
Chicago
Columbus
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
St. Louis
Toronto
Winnipeg

Pacific- 8
Anaheim
Calgary
Colorado
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Phoenix
San Jose
Vancouver

That's if Detroit insists on being in the east, otherwise, switch them and Toronto (which is actually further east to begin with). Screw you Columbus, maybe you should try winning before you ask for the scheduling to be changed to your benefit.


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06-26-2011, 01:32 PM
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How about that? Maybe keep Washington in the Southern tho.

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06-26-2011, 02:13 PM
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How about that? Maybe keep Washington in the Southern tho.
The travel would be an absolute killer. Tampa to St. Louis is nearly 1,000 miles.

Also seperating each of Columbus, Detroit and Pittsburgh into their own divisions is unrealistic methinks.

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06-26-2011, 02:38 PM
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The travel would be an absolute killer. Tampa to St. Louis is nearly 1,000 miles.

Also seperating each of Columbus, Detroit and Pittsburgh into their own divisions is unrealistic methinks.
Imagine Edmonton to Anaheim, ouch.

Also, I don't think it's that unrealistic. Detroit would still have their main rival in Chicago while Pittsburgh would still have the Flyers. The marquee rivalries the NHL markets would still be there.

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06-26-2011, 05:21 PM
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How about that? Maybe keep Washington in the Southern tho.


I don't think this will be the way they go because one of the stated goals of the reorganization is to keep teams in each division in the same time zone, as much as possible. That's impossible to do 100% out west in any scenario.

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06-26-2011, 06:53 PM
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Moving to a 4 division 2 conference setup where there are not only uneven divisions but uneven conferences is bush league and completely unacceptable IMO. Ill be pissed if they do that.

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06-27-2011, 10:36 AM
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Moving to a 4 division 2 conference setup where there are not only uneven divisions but uneven conferences is bush league and completely unacceptable IMO. Ill be pissed if they do that.
^ This. I still recommend this (but I could get on board with the 7/8 league, considering how poor our division is):


Most divisions still in tact, most rivalries still in tact. Although, St. Louis-Tampa is pretty much the same as DC-Tampa.

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06-27-2011, 12:27 PM
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^ This. I still recommend this (but I could get on board with the 7/8 league, considering how poor our division is):


Most divisions still in tact, most rivalries still in tact. Although, St. Louis-Tampa is pretty much the same as DC-Tampa.
It's 6 divisions, which I'm personally okay with. Any particular reason why Columbus and Nashville are in the divisions they are? C-bus is in the eastern time zone, but Nashville just seems like so much a better fit.

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06-27-2011, 12:53 PM
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It's 6 divisions, which I'm personally okay with. Any particular reason why Columbus and Nashville are in the divisions they are? C-bus is in the eastern time zone, but Nashville just seems like so much a better fit.
I think of Nashville as more southern and so I put them with Dallas and St. Louis in the "south/midwest" with Detroit. Columbus seems more of an eastern city, and yes timezone-wise to, so it seemed logical to put them with the Caps and 'Ning.

Also, I think Dallas, Colorado, and Minnesota could all be rotated around. (Dallas to west, Colorado with Vancouver, Minnesota with Red Wings).

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