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06-27-2011, 01:55 PM
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Not to me. I don't want to lose Edler either... Hodgson, Tanev, and a 1st seems like to little. I'd throw in Ballard or another 1st, whichever they prefer.
edler on his best days is not what weber is on average. even if that equation was even i'd do edler and whichever other player they want to get him in a nanosecond because of the change in attitude that trade would bring. no one ****s with shea weber.

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Kypreos is reporting he heard cap hit would be 4.7 at draft on a long term deal.
If thats what it is I sure hope there isn't any NTC involved.

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who do we trust more? kyper or hockey widow? i am leaning towards the latter.

in that case we still have hope!

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Kypreos is reporting he heard cap hit would be 4.7 at draft on a long term deal.
I don't have a problem with a $4.7 million cap hit *IF* it's a shorter team deal. Giving a guy who has been as inconsistant as Bieksa with a long term deal at that cap hit (with likely a NTC) is asking for trouble.

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I'll bet it is what they are reporting it to be...contracts always tend to get underestimated around here. Still think its too much if it is $4.7 but with an inflation in the cap ceiling there will be inflation in contracts.

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So Kyper says 4.7 while angus_j says less than Hamhuis. Who wins?

Edit: It is worth noting that a deal at 4.7 would put Bieksa's cap hit at 7.31% of the cap. Compare to Hamhuis's contract last year that came in at 7.58%. As was noted above, salaries tend to get low-balled around here, and I think most of that comes from cap inflation not being considered.

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06-27-2011, 01:57 PM
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You guys scare far too easily. I'll still be shocked if it's 4.7

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Well, given the playoffs he's had, and what else he brings to the table, someone would have offered him $5.5 on the open market, guaranteed.

Would have preferred much less, though.......but I'll wait until official details are released.

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06-27-2011, 01:58 PM
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Price always comes in higher than people expect. Same thing every year.

I'm guessing they were looking at 4.2 or 4.3 originally and then the cap came in a bit higher. Bieksa also wanted 6 years, so they might have given him extra money and dropped it to 4 years. We'll find out.

I think Bieksa would have gotten 5.5 from someone on the open market.

Also, Kyper could be wrong, but 4.7 is a pretty specific guess.

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06-27-2011, 01:58 PM
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4.7 isn't that bad. Open market he's looking at 5+, and we aren't replacing him for 4.7 in UFA. I really think it might not be that high and identical to Hamhuis might be the case.

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06-27-2011, 01:59 PM
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On weekend, was told Bieksa deal close. Five-six years, Hamhuis money or slightly less. #Canucks. Cap hit not announced yet.

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So Kyper says 4.7 while angus_j says less than Hamhuis. Who wins?
I don't see any way Bieksa gets $4.7mil for 5 years. You just don't give that kind of money to a 30 point player that can't anchor a defense pairing. He'll get less than Hamhuis IMO.

Don't see how Gillis going after Weber makes any sense unless he loses Ehrhoff to free agency. If Ehrhoff re-signs you would have to think Edler's salary would have to go the other way in the deal.

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He's probably just as happy right now.



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Relax. It'll be a 5 year deal, $4.5M with some sort of NTC, whether it's limited or not or what part of the contract it covers could be anything, but I'm pretty certain from everything I've read that it'll be $4.5M.

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Worth noting that that Kyper is regularly wrong on the numbers.

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I don't care if it's 4.7 or 4.5. The 200k isn't a dealbreaker for me, and maybe Kevin will buy our very own Chairman Mouth a Maserati with the extra money (for sticking by him through thick and thin).

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Hockey Break is reporting $4.5M cap hit:


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Hearing Kevin Bieksa was signed for north of 4 years and a 4.5M cap hit.
5 minutes ago

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Not to me. I don't want to lose Edler either... Hodgson, Tanev, and a 1st seems like to little. I'd throw in Ballard or another 1st, whichever they prefer.
That just seems unrealistic to me, though. Giving up Edler would be a starting point to acquire Weber IMO from Nashville's side.

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i feel sorry for the team that might have offered him $5 mil +

no way is he worth more than hamhuis

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Hockey Break is reporting $4.5M cap hit:
Isn't "north of 4 years" a stupid way of saying 5 years or "I have no idea but it's a long time?" Unless he means he's signed for 4.5 years and we'll end up losing him at the 2017 NHL Allstar game.

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Didn't Kyper say Bryzgalov's deal was for 7 years at 50 million ? Let's hope he's wrong again.

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Murph says it's a 5 year deal around 4.5

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People need to get over the 'more than Hamhuis' thing. You have to account for inflation on all of these days, especially when the cap just went up such a dramatic amount.

Hope he comes in at 4.2 -4.4, but if its a little higher then whatever, I'll get over it.

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I'm guessing no more than 4.5m a year.
Sweet Jesus.. Has everyone forgotten Bieksa up until this season ?

For a guy that plays one and half seasons out of four, I want him for less.

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