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Gorges, Weber, White, Klubertanz, Russell, St-Denis, and Carle are all qualified.

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06-27-2011, 08:36 PM
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You'd think Gorges would not have been treated the same way Klubertanz....but hey, what's important is that all of them were qualified, which was the easiest part. Glad to see Carle being qualified since I still believe he still has "some" value. St-Denis was also great for the Dogs. Russell? I clearly would have done without. Klubertanz, I thought he was gone in Europe or something....But all of those were fine choices. Again, I would have not qualified Russell. The rest were obvious choices.

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You'd think Gorges would not have been treated the same way Klubertanz....but hey, what's important is that all of them were qualified, which was the easiest part. Glad to see Carle being qualified since I still believe he still has "some" value. St-Denis was also great for the Dogs. Russell? I clearly would have done without. Klubertanz, I thought he was gone in Europe or something....But all of those were fine choices. Again, I would have not qualified Russell. The rest were obvious choices.
Gorges should be treated better than that. The guy is a warrior and he has proved himself. They kept giving Ryder one year deals because he was a lazy slob but Gorges is the example of dedication, don't do that with him, it's a slap in the face. He should be regarded as our core group that we want to maintain for years, they need to reward him with something meaty.

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06-27-2011, 08:43 PM
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Markov - Subban
Gill - Gorges
Spacek - Yemelin
Weber - Diaz
I'd like:

Markov - Subban
Gill - Gorges
Shane O'Brien - Yemelin/Weber

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Spacek (Hopefully traded)
Diaz (Hamilton)

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06-27-2011, 08:49 PM
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Gorges should be treated better than that. The guy is a warrior and he has proved himself. They kept giving Ryder one year deals because he was a lazy slob but Gorges is the example of dedication, don't do that with him, it's a slap in the face. He should be regarded as our core group that we want to maintain for years, they need to reward him with something meaty.
And they will.
He'll be signed to a multi year contract before July 1st.

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06-27-2011, 08:57 PM
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And they will.
He'll be signed to a multi year contract before July 1st.
He could sign on September 1st for all I care. As long as he signs before training camp.

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06-28-2011, 09:40 AM
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Gorges should be treated better than that. The guy is a warrior and he has proved himself. They kept giving Ryder one year deals because he was a lazy slob but Gorges is the example of dedication, don't do that with him, it's a slap in the face. He should be regarded as our core group that we want to maintain for years, they need to reward him with something meaty.
Chill people. As many have mentioned, this is little more than book-keeping. A formality to retain his rights. He'll get a multi-year deal for a lot more money shortly.

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06-28-2011, 10:26 AM
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Gill Doesn't even make that much. Gorges is reliable, I'll give you that, he's a freaking workhorse and takes many for the team. But I can't see why Gorges would get a higher amount then Gill (who has way more experience) on an RFA contract. If he were an offensive D ala PK, maybe. But he's a great shutdown D.
I can't believe anyone would think that Gill is worth more than Gorges

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06-28-2011, 11:11 AM
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The Habs have until what date to sign these RFA?

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06-28-2011, 11:15 AM
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The Habs have until what date to sign these RFA?
July 1st... From what I understand, they already gave them an offer and the players have until July 1st to accept. If they reject, they go on market.

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July 1st... From what I understand, they already gave them an offer and the players have until July 1st to accept. If they reject, they go on market.
I'm pretty certain that we qualified them. Meaning we retain their rights, they either accept their qualifying offer or negotiate a bigger, longer deal. They don't get to choose when they become free agents.

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My bad... if they reject, that's when they go into arbitration?

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I'm pretty certain that we qualified them. Meaning we retain their rights, they either accept their qualifying offer or negotiate a bigger, longer deal. They don't get to choose when they become free agents.
yup. the way they can go to another team is if they are traded obviously or another team offers them an offer sheet and if they choose to sign it the habs then can choose whether or not to accept compensation which are draft picks depending on the amount of the deal or match the deal. offer sheets dont happen often. i highly doubt gorges gets an offer sheet. i like gorges but he really isnt all that great.

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My bad... if they reject, that's when they go into arbitration?
some time in august the nhl picks a day its never the same.

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06-28-2011, 11:35 AM
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okay thanks bro

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My bad... if they reject, that's when they go into arbitration?
If they reject the QO then they negotiate a contract as normal, which is why this is typcially a normal book-keeping operation. The purpose of QO's is to make a young player's previous contract his floor in terms of compensation, although some take less to get a one-way contract. Arbitration is more for if there is an impasse in negotiations.

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Thanks TtG! Nothing to worry about with Gorges then, except if a low-cap team offers him something crazy.

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Thanks guys! It's clearer now.

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06-28-2011, 12:07 PM
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Markov-Subban
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Hamrlik-Spacek
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We simply have too many defensemen. Someone will be upset at the lack of ice time.

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06-28-2011, 12:16 PM
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Gorges should be treated better than that. The guy is a warrior and he has proved himself. They kept giving Ryder one year deals because he was a lazy slob but Gorges is the example of dedication, don't do that with him, it's a slap in the face. He should be regarded as our core group that we want to maintain for years, they need to reward him with something meaty.
Gorges hasn't been dissed at all. Qualifying him is a formality. It doesn't mean they're not going to offer him a long term deal. If they don't, then there's good reason to complain. For the moment, it's a no brainer that PG deals with his pending UFAs before they hit the open market, along with the simple resignings like AK and Gill where they basically just extended the existing contracts a year. Gorges will be signed to a multi-year deal at a big raise after July 1, IMO. The questions are how much for how long, but unless he's asking for the moon I don't see a problem. The team has money and Gorges small frame and limited offense should keep his price to something reasonable. Agree with you it would be ridiculous to sign him to a one year and start him on the path to leaving as a UFA.

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Thanks TtG! Nothing to worry about with Gorges then, except if a low-cap team offers him something crazy.
Then we'll get some picks... If they offer more than 3 million, I think we get their 1st round pick and depending on how much more, we get extra picks

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Good news!

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Arbitration is awarded to players who qualify. If you don't qualify, you cant get it.

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Markov-Subban
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Hamrlik-Spacek
Yemelin-Weber

We simply have too many defensemen. Someone will be upset at the lack of ice time.
And I hope it's useless Spacek...

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Markov-Subban
Gill-Gorges
Hamrlik-Spacek
Yemelin-Weber

We simply have too many defensemen. Someone will be upset at the lack of ice time.
thats a solid d core.damn.cant wait to see it with price behind em.

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Markov-Subban
Gill-Gorges
Hamrlik-Spacek
Yemelin-Weber

We simply have too many defensemen. Someone will be upset at the lack of ice time.
Weber will play forward some games and Yemelin will take games away from that bum Spacek and old man Gill.
Besides having depth in defense is never a bad idea as we saw last year

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