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06-27-2011, 06:15 PM
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Sweatt could have been used by Chicago, maybe develop his game, oh well though

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06-27-2011, 06:20 PM
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are we confusing Sweatts here?

Lee had 14 points in 41 games in the AHL last year which is not that great for a defenseman that's listed at 5'9", and he's almost 26 years old.

I don't necessarily think that's someone you waste one of your contracts on.

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06-27-2011, 06:21 PM
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No Glass. Good. Good. Good.
Glass is a UFA.


I really hope we sign Shirokov, he made lots of strides in his defensive game this past season and is projecting to be a top 6 player.


I disagree with the Raymond hate, completely unwarranted. This last year is the anomaly, what with the injuries he suffered. He's also a penalty killer and plays the power play. As a 40-50 point forward at the moment, he's paid completely fairly. No need to harp on him.

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06-27-2011, 06:21 PM
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I'm not too surprised that many of these AHL guys might not get qualified...Chicago has probably informed Gillis of how many prospects they're willing to take, and how many of their roster spots will be taken up by AHL vets, and space is limited. No sense keeping a guy like Sweatt around in the ECHL.

Shirokov on the other hand, definitely should be qualified, even if he gets moved to Winnipeg for a pick or something later on in the off-season or the season.

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06-27-2011, 06:22 PM
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are we confusing Sweatts here?

Lee had 14 points in 41 games in the AHL last year which is not that great for a defenseman that's listed at 5'9", and he's almost 26 years old.

I don't necessarily think that's someone you waste one of your contracts on.
He also stepped up for us when there were injuries and played pretty well.

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06-27-2011, 06:35 PM
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Looks like Lappy has been signed for $2M/2yr.

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Maxim Lapierre #canucks 2 ans (years) / 2 millions total.

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06-27-2011, 06:36 PM
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Disappointed not to keep Sweatt. Thought he was outstanding in the preseason last year and showed well when called up here. Was one of the better Moose defenders in the first half of the season also.

Is probably a casualty of the two smallish Swedish defenders we’ve signed/drafted. Can only have so many small skill defenders on one AHL team.

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06-27-2011, 06:51 PM
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i have no idea if sweatt will ever develop into an nhl regular but i honestly thought that sauve brought more to the table in his cup of coffee than sweatt did his, so i don't have a problem with cutting him loose. the only thing that makes it noteworthy is that sweatt was one of the few right side guys in the system and could have been useful as an injury callup.

meh.

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06-27-2011, 07:39 PM
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Poor guy. I doubt we would've given him another contract if he didn't get injured, but you never know. He was a decent contributor when the team needed him.

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06-27-2011, 07:40 PM
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Sucks about Sweatt. Despite his injury I still think he's a late bloomer.

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06-27-2011, 07:47 PM
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I'm not too surprised that many of these AHL guys might not get qualified...Chicago has probably informed Gillis of how many prospects they're willing to take, and how many of their roster spots will be taken up by AHL vets, and space is limited. No sense keeping a guy like Sweatt around in the ECHL.

Shirokov on the other hand, definitely should be qualified, even if he gets moved to Winnipeg for a pick or something later on in the off-season or the season.
Can't the Canucks just loan out players to other AHL teams (assuming they accept)? For some of their borderline prospects, that might be a better fit.

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Can't the Canucks just loan out players to other AHL teams (assuming they accept)? For some of their borderline prospects, that might be a better fit.
You want your players playing together and in one spot so you can follow their development, get to know and work with coaching tendencies and evaluations and so they can all build a relationship.

We also don't have an ECHL team right now do we with Victoria folding? I don't envy the job of the management team in finding homes for everyone and balancing a decent pool of call-ups.

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06-27-2011, 07:59 PM
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Lee Sweatt not being qualified does not surprise me with Erixson and Tommernes.

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06-27-2011, 08:14 PM
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Disappointed not to keep Sweatt. Thought he was outstanding in the preseason last year and showed well when called up here. Was one of the better Moose defenders in the first half of the season also.

Is probably a casualty of the two smallish Swedish defenders we’ve signed/drafted. Can only have so many small skill defenders on one AHL team.

Sorry, but I just had to lol at that.


I hope were-sign Torres

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The problem with Sweatt and Shirokov was the big number they were making at the NHL level. Add another 10% to that and it makes it very hard for either to get a look. I wouldn't be suprised at all if they were both offered contracts at more reasonable money.

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06-27-2011, 08:26 PM
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The problem with Sweatt and Shirokov was the big number they were making at the NHL level. Add another 10% to that and it makes it very hard for either to get a look. I wouldn't be suprised at all if they were both offered contracts at more reasonable money.
if you're Shirokov though and the Canucks don't qualify you...

what real incentive is there to sign a cheaper NHL deal here, when you know you're a bit of a longshot to crack the roster and the coach doesn't seem to be a big fan? why not just walk and sign yourself up somewhere you think you might have a chance to actually stick as an NHL player and prove yourself?

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if you're Shirokov though and the Canucks don't qualify you...

what real incentive is there to sign a cheaper NHL deal here, when you know you're a bit of a longshot to crack the roster and the coach doesn't seem to be a big fan? why not just walk and sign yourself up somewhere you think you might have a chance to actually stick as an NHL player and prove yourself?
I have to think that Shirokov was qualified. The team had nothing invested in Lee Sweatt. They invested a draft pick and 2 years in Shirokov.

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Don't understand why Lee Sweatt wasn't qualified. Would consider him the 5th RH dman in the organization, rift?

Team is playing with fire with respect to RH dmen:

#1 Bieksa signed today
#2 ?
#3 ?
#4 Tanev
#5 ?

In theory we were sitting with Tanev as our #1 RH dman as of 2 days ago.

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The problem with Sweatt and Shirokov was the big number they were making at the NHL level. Add another 10% to that and it makes it very hard for either to get a look. I wouldn't be suprised at all if they were both offered contracts at more reasonable money.
Bill Sweatt was a big #; lee was at $650K

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06-27-2011, 09:23 PM
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The problem with Sweatt and Shirokov was the big number they were making at the NHL level. Add another 10% to that and it makes it very hard for either to get a look. I wouldn't be suprised at all if they were both offered contracts at more reasonable money.
QO for Shirokov is/was $803,250.

http://capgeek.com/qualifying_offer_...player_id=1560

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I wish they'de offer Shiro a one-way minimum contract. Wouldn't that benefit him too? Gotta think he'd make more money that way. Hell, even a two-way with his NHL wage at $500K would probably lead to more games as a callup at the very least. Worked for Tambellini, why not Shirokov?

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If Shirokov's QO was/is 820k or whatever, if they did qualify him, is that automatically a 1-year, 1-way contract?

If it's a 2-way contract he gets with the QO, I'm sure the Canucks AND Shiro would prefer to skip qualifying him and sign a 650k 1-way deal. He's guaranteed the money and has a lower cap hit..

Or am I crazy.

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If Shirokov's QO was/is 820k or whatever, if they did qualify him, is that automatically a 1-year, 1-way contract?

If it's a 2-way contract he gets with the QO, I'm sure the Canucks AND Shiro would prefer to skip qualifying him and sign a 650k 1-way deal. He's guaranteed the money and has a lower cap hit..

Or am I crazy.
That would probably be very smart for both parties.

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TSN has the following players as RFA's this year needing to be qualified.

Roster players - Lapierre, Hansen, Oreskovich

Non-Roster players - Mario Bliznak, Alex Bolduc, Guillaume Desbiens, MacGregor Sharp, Sergei Shirokov, Lee Sweatt.

That is the site I think is the most trustworthy.
I was just informed that Bliznak signed a two-year contract with HC Sparta Praha of the Czech Extraliga.

News to me. Happened on June 7th. Now what was going on in my life then that made me miss that story?

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