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06-27-2011, 06:44 PM
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D'Agonstini and Bergfors and Kennedy please!!
Pass on Kennedy thanks.

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06-27-2011, 06:49 PM
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Come on Murray, Bass is awesome, keep him!

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Pass on Kennedy thanks.
Yeah. What an ugly mofo

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According to "on Frozen Pond"



Remains to be seen if Repik will be a UFA or not I guess.
CapGeek made an error, and Repik is still under contract for one more season.

http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=832

This has Repik as being signed during the 06-07 season, which is the season before he was drafted. His contract still "slid" two years, but the first slide year of his contract was the 07-08 season, and the years on his 3-year ELC started counting down with the 09-10 season.

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Any news on the other RFA's (Kaspars Daugavins, Roman Wick, and Geoff Kinrade)?

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Whats the website that shows the qualifying offers?

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06-27-2011, 07:54 PM
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Whats the website that shows the qualifying offers?
Looks like TSN has updated their website. They show Carcillo and other known non tendered players as UFAs.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=38564

for the Sens they have:

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Available UFAs: D Andre Benoit, G Mike Brodeur, D David Hale, F Ryan Keller, G Pascal Leclaire, F Francis Lessard, G Curtis McElhinney, F Ryan Potulny, F Ryan Shannon, F Marek Svatos

Available RFAs: F Jason Bailey, F Cody Bass, F Bobby Butler, F Erik Condra, F Kaspars Daugavins, F Colin Greening, D Geoff Kinrade, D Derek Smith, F Roman Wick
Looks like Potulny was the only RFA who becomes a UFA. No idea how accurate this is.

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06-27-2011, 07:55 PM
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Looks like TSN has updated their website. They show Carcillo and other known non tendered players as UFAs.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=38564

for the Sens they have:



Looks like Potulny was the only RFA who becomes a UFA. No idea how accurate this is.
Their list is semi flawed though considering it shows Greening and he is signed.

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06-27-2011, 08:30 PM
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Matt D'Agostini please!

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06-27-2011, 08:32 PM
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Uh oh, I hope MandiotC doesn't see that Potulny wasn't qualified. He has a lot of value apparently.

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Uh oh, I hope MandiotC doesn't see that Potulny wasn't qualified. He has a lot of value apparently.
We couldn't afford his skill. He'll probably easily get 2.5 - 3 mil on the open market.

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06-27-2011, 08:36 PM
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i hope we sign wick, give him another shot

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06-27-2011, 08:38 PM
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We couldn't afford his skill. He'll probably easily get 2.5 - 3 mil on the open market.
I'm assuming this is sarcasm.


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We couldn't afford his skill. He'll probably easily get 2.5 - 3 mil on the open market.
Not sure if serious.

I think that he will be offered a two way deal.

Wait are we talking about potulny cause I am

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06-27-2011, 09:04 PM
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Well let's see.

Spezza
Michalek
Alfie
Regin
Foligno
Filatov (2-way)
Greening
Smith
Neil
Butler (if we do sign him)
Condra (if we do sign him)
---- Zibby perhaps? but doubt it

There could be 2-3 spots that might be available depending on a few prospects' contracts. Did I miss anything?
I don't think a one-way contract of 800k (Smith, Greening, etc) is going to matter too much to Melynk if it's in the minors, given that we're not going to be close to the cap ceiling. Beyond roster spots, guys are also vying for first call-up rights.

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competition is never a bad thing, we are rebuilding we can afford to take a couple projects
Agreed. AHL depth is still something that'd be good to have, and nabbing guys like Repik helps create that depth. Competition is pretty obvious, the more players, the more they push each other.

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06-27-2011, 09:11 PM
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Joy Lindsay confirming that Bass, Potulny and Bailey were not qualified.

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06-27-2011, 09:15 PM
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Joy Lindsay confirming that Bass, Potulny and Bailey were not qualified.
Classy move to let Bass try his luck elsewhere.

I can't believe there is speculation in this thread that we didn't qualify the Butler or the Condra. Of course they will be signed.

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If Vancouver doesn't send a QO to Shirokov then the Sens should be all over that

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06-27-2011, 09:37 PM
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Most Definitely. Ruutu did not live up to his pest status as a Sen IMO. I thought he did a much better job in Pittsburgh, although still liked him. Carcillo would be an instant fan fave for sure, I know he was a hit in Philly.
The sens should definitely take a flyer on Carcillo. Carcillo can actually play and will bring a physical pressence and agitating ability to the sens.

4th line next season of Carcillo- Smith - Neil would be sick for a rebuild.

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Matt D'Agostini please!
He would be a very good pickup for sure.

Seems the Blues didn't extend a qualifying offer because they didn't want to go to arbitration.

"We had good dialogue leading up to making this decision," Blues general manager Doug Armstrong said. "Arbitration is very inflationary. The comparable group (of players to D'Agostini) is a small group. We felt that it was best to negotiate with a larger pool of players, without the backdrop of arbitration.

"We still think he's a valuable NHL player, and we'd like to continue to talk to him, but not with the backdrop of arbitration. We're going to continue to talk and hopefully he'll still be a Blue."

Steve Bartlett, D'Agostini's agent, said the absence of qualifying offer today does not mean D'Agostini would not re-sign with the Blues.

"I think we're still working on it in good faith," Bartlett said. "Our first hope is to get something done (in St. Louis). We had several good conversations, and we'll continue to have good conversations."

D'Agostini made $550,000 last year. His 21 goals were nine more than his career high and his 46 points were 25 more than his previous high. In arbitration, he could make as much as $2 million per season, if not more.

"Doug said they don't want to throw it to arbritrator ... they want to negotiate something that everyone feels was a mutual decision, not a third party," Bartlett said. "I know more and more teams are less anxious to have an arbitrator decide salary. I'm not looking at it like talks have blown up, or that we're not trying to get a deal here. They had to make a decision whether to give me the option of arbitration, and they decided they didn't want to do that."

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06-27-2011, 09:40 PM
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The sens should definitely take a flyer on Carcillo. Carcillo can actually play and will bring a physical pressence and agitating ability to the sens.

4th line next season of Carcillo- Smith - Neil would be sick for a rebuild.
Hope the the penalty killers don't die from exhaustion

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06-27-2011, 09:53 PM
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Pass on Kennedy thanks.
Why? He has nice skills, scores and won't be too expensive I presume.

Doesn't matter anyway, the Pens still have a chance to sign him, like the Blues with D'Agostini (and all the others I guess) and I'd be surprised to see either of them hit UFA IMO.

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06-27-2011, 10:01 PM
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I always felt that TYler Kennedy was a Senator killer whenever he played against us. \I want him

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Why? He has nice skills, scores and won't be too expensive I presume.

Doesn't matter anyway, the Pens still have a chance to sign him, like the Blues with D'Agostini (and all the others I guess) and I'd be surprised to see either of them hit UFA IMO.
Any RFA without a qualifying offer will be a UFA on July 1st.

However their current team probably has the inside track, unless some team is willing to overpay.

Gms are taking a risk to avoid arbitration, July 1st just got more interesting.


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I always felt that TYler Kennedy was a Senator killer whenever he played against us. \I want him
Well then you had better convince Shero to trade him to you.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11178/1156607-100.stm

I hope the Sens pass on third and fourth line players that are only UFAs due to GMs hating the arbitration process. If Murray is going to overpay a little, it should only be for top six forward.

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