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Cam Barker (for buyout)

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06-28-2011, 02:41 PM
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Grabner #2 coming right up for the Isles
Two different situations though. Grabner was an unknown going to Florida and NYI with limited playing time.

Barker has been playing for how long in the NHL?
I hope Florida claims him, but, I'm not expecting much than a bottom pairing D-man to help us reach the floor.

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06-28-2011, 02:47 PM
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I wouldn't pick him up but I think he is worth a one year contract for 1-1.5 million to see if he can get to 40 points again.

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06-28-2011, 02:51 PM
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He's definitely one of the bigger busts in recent years. He has zero hockey IQ.

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Well, I'm gonna miss Barker for this:




Gah, I had forgotten about that one. Wowser there was a lot of bad hockey played at the X last year....

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06-28-2011, 03:15 PM
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Benn: "Should I attack the rookie who's never played in the NHL before or Cam Barker? Yep, better go Barker."

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06-28-2011, 03:35 PM
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2004 was not a good draft year if you were not the Capitals or the Penguins. The Caps got Ovechkin and Green, the Pens got Malkin, Goligoski, and Kennedy. A lot of busts in the draft class.

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06-28-2011, 03:42 PM
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2004 was not a good draft year if you were not the Capitals or the Penguins. The Caps got Ovechkin and Green, the Pens got Malkin, Goligoski, and Kennedy. A lot of busts in the draft class.
Don't forget about Jeff "+50" Schultz!

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06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
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Don't forget about Jeff "+50" Schultz!
I should have wikied it. Very good draft for both teams.

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06-28-2011, 04:08 PM
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A lot of trash is spoken about him on the site these days, whether it's deserved or not, we don't know what's up with him for sure. Speculation on not being in shape, lack of heart and determination, peaked like Redden but very early on, etc.
At this point, I can see him as being a project and wouldn't mind him on my team. Paying him 1.5 while he wakes up from his funk by being waived may be just what's needed to get him to prove himself to every other team again.
The annoying saying of low risk, high reward is in play here. 1.5M for a third pairing with potential second pairing is pretty good
Saying "while he wakes up from his funk" implies he was good at some point in his career. The fact is he NEVER has.

He has a decent point shot but that's about all he has in his repetoire. Cam's not a great passer and isn't what you'd call a puck moving dman. In his own zone he is absolutely worthless as he displays zero instincts, effort, toughness, and is constantly out of position. Moreover he is HANDS down the dumbest hockey player I haev EVER seen. If he can pass it to the opposition he will. If he can fumble the puck and turn it over he will. If he can take a penalty he will. If he can take an illadvised shot he will.

At the end of the day, Barker is/was only really good at 2 things: stealing money and finishing with the worst +- rating of regular dmen on his own team EVERY year. If every team doesn't have 7 dmen who can play better all around hockey than this chump, your organizatoin has serious problems. 1.5 mil? This guy shouldn't even be allowed in the arena to WATCH the games let alone play them.

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06-28-2011, 04:10 PM
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What happened to this guy? he was a beast a few years ago with the Hawks like 40 pts in 68 games? and a former 3rd overall pick?? tell me please.

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06-28-2011, 04:11 PM
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I wouldn't pick him up but I think he is worth a one year contract for 1-1.5 million to see if he can get to 40 points again.
He may get you 40 but he'll be directly responsible for givign up at least 50. Scoring doesn't mean squat when you are infinitely worse on the other end.

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06-28-2011, 04:12 PM
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What happened to this guy? he was a beast a few years ago with the Hawks like 40 pts in 68 games? and a former 3rd overall pick?? tell me please.
He was still a defensive liability but he just happened to get a lot of PP time.

Maybe it's a confidence issue or something and he'll bounce back a little bit... but honestly, he's a PP specialist and not much more. If you give him a lot of PP time, he'll put up some points but it doesn't make him a 'recovered' player.

I'll laugh when he signs with his new team and they try to 'save' him, and they flounder for excuses as to why he's doing good there until the day he leaves and they all talk trash about him. It's happened twice already in Chicago and Minnesota...

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06-28-2011, 04:22 PM
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Marc Andre Bergeron is more defensively responsible than Cam Barker.

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06-28-2011, 04:34 PM
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Man, I remember when he was on the come up with Chicago a couple of years ago and people were considering him to be a core guy.

My have times changed.

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I hope the Red Wings can pick him up.

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Young enough to warrant a fresh start , maybe an eye opener for him as well? Maybe even a conversion to forward.

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06-28-2011, 04:46 PM
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2004 was not a good draft year if you were not the Capitals or the Penguins. The Caps got Ovechkin and Green, the Pens got Malkin, Goligoski, and Kennedy. A lot of busts in the draft class.
rangers got dubinsky and callahan and not only they werent first round picks, their first round picks well turned out to be busts.

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Young enough to warrant a fresh start
Fresh start... In the Fédération Francaise de Hockey...

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Fresh start... In the Fédération Francaise de Hockey...
Francaise as in France perhaps?

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I hope the Red Wings can pick him up.
Me too

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Fresh start... In the Fédération Francaise de Hockey...
Francaise as in France you say?

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I wouldn't mind seeing Tallon claim him, it is interesting to see how he is reaching the cap floor, he's not just bringing in different players from different teams, he's bringing in guys who are familiar with eachother.

Brian Campbell
Tomas Kopecky
Jack Skille
Cam Barker (maybe)
Kris Versteeg (maybe)

These guys were in the same locker room in Chicago at some point, whether if it was preseason or whatever.

It's interesting, Chicago Blackhawk east lol

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06-28-2011, 05:03 PM
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Francaise as in France you say?
Yep. As in the French "Well we can't call ourselves elite so we won't..." League...

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06-28-2011, 05:13 PM
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Maybe I am just an optimist, but I think Barker could actually turn into a decent NHL player if given the right chance. Barker is a funny player because he seems to have all the tools (though, as has been exaggerated in this thread, his skating could use some work), is still young, and actually had put it all together for a pretty decent season (2008-9). He has good size, can play a physical game (although is not consistent at all in this regard), has good offensive instincts, and is even willing to drop the gloves if he has to.

Although people love to bash guys who don't live up to their potential (especially here on HFBoards), he is still only 25 years old, and has already played the majority of 5 seasons in the NHL. In one of those seasons he put up 40 points in only 68 games and then another 9 points in 17 playoff games. People love to disregard one season, but to put up 40 points in 68 games as a 22 year old defenseman is pretty impressive. I think what he needs is a coach that can light a fire under him.

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Cam Barker was a scrub but at least he was a warm body, with him and Burns gone what's the Minny defense look like? Marek Zidlicky #1? :s

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