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06-29-2011, 01:20 PM
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Hemsky is one of the most talented players in the league, and he is not soft at all. Just because he has a European name, does not make him soft. He does have injury concerns...But either way, the guy puts up PPG numbers on a terrible team.
He can also create offense out of seemingly unthreatening plays, and can generate points Even Strength, which is a weakness of ours.

I would be ecstatic if we could get him.

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06-29-2011, 01:22 PM
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The issue is what Hemsky would cost. We have a slot for him, but we don't have excess assets to part with. The last few years have seen the organizational depth get pretty decimated. On the plus side, we seem to have cap space and money to use it. On the down side, there's clearly a league-wide shortage of talent. Too many teams.

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Eh, his injury history has be a bit worried, but I wouldn't mind having a player like Hemsky on the team. He's not a soft Euro.

The asking price for Hemsky would probably be quite a bit though.

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06-29-2011, 01:24 PM
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He can also create offense out of seemingly unthreatening plays, and can generate points Even Strength, which is a weakness of ours.

I would be ecstatic if we could get him.
I agree but don't get your hopes up. Oilers will wait until trade deadline

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06-29-2011, 01:27 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he is traded. Hemsky is a UFA after this season and there is NO WAY Oilers are signing him at his current salary of $4.1m. That was a steal for them as it is. His new contract will make him a $5.5m to $6m player easy. With the Oilers young, offensive depth, they could easily pass on re-signing him. If they don't trade him this summer, I expect them to trade him before the deadline.

Oilers might as well see what they can get for him.

Knowing the Oilers, they probably want another 1st rd. pick. I'd prefer to keep our 1st rd 2012.

I know there are a lot of Columbus fans who want him badly.

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06-29-2011, 01:29 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if he is traded. Hemsky is a UFA after this season and there is NO WAY Oilers are signing him at his current salary of $4.1m. That was a steal for them as it is. His new contract will make him a $5.5m to $6m player easy. With the Oilers young, offensive depth, they could easily pass on re-signing him. If they don't trade him this summer, I expect them to trade him before the deadline.

Oilers might as well see what they can get for him.

Knowing the Oilers, they probably want another 1st rd. pick. I'd prefer to keep our 1st rd 2012.

I know there are a lot of Columbus fans who want him badly.
The Oilers will try to make the PO this year so I think they will wait and see

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06-29-2011, 01:30 PM
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I got traded for Hemsky in 2000. I wonder who won that trade .

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To Edm
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Gorges
3rd 2012

To Montreal
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Plante


Hate to give up gorges, but you gotta give to get & give to get-rid-of...

Hemsky adds some much needed offensive punch and plante should b able to compete for bottom pairing spot by next year, if not sooner, while adding size/toughness to the depth chart.

With markov/subban, gill/hamrlik?/spacek, emelin/weber/Diaz, we have decent d depth, and Gomez off the books makes it easier to either lock up Wiz, and/or overpay for a guy like Hannan or jovo to make up for losing Gorges.

Oilers desperately need a guy like gorges on the back end, and adding Gonez affords them more patience on bringing up rnh... Not too mention adding experience to a very green top 9 group.

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Yeah, let's complain about acquiring legit top 3 talent. We have too much as we speak right?

He's more than welcome.

Add grit/toughness to the bottom lines and leave the top 6 to talent, whatever size it may come with.

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06-29-2011, 01:34 PM
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Hemsky had major troubles staying healthy. I think we had our share of injury problems recently

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The Oilers will try to make the PO this year so I think they will wait and see
Yeah, I agree. They seem to actually want to be competitive this season. They should keep him. If they are completely out of it by the mid-point of the season then they'll offer him around. If they are fighting for a play-off spot then I expect it to go down to the wire. It might be a Smyth situation where they trade him on the day.

The only way he does not get traded is if they are in a play-off spot, or are less than 10 pts. from a play-off spot at the deadline, or actually want to sign him.

We'll see. I can't see them trading him now.

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To Edm
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Gorges
3rd 2012

To Montreal
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Plante


Hate to give up gorges, but you gotta give to get & give to get-rid-of...

Hemsky adds some much needed offensive punch and plante should b able to compete for bottom pairing spot by next year, if not sooner, while adding size/toughness to the depth chart.

With markov/subban, gill/hamrlik?/spacek, emelin/weber/Diaz, we have decent d depth, and Gomez off the books makes it easier to either lock up Wiz, and/or overpay for a guy like Hannan or jovo to make up for losing Gorges.

Oilers desperately need a guy like gorges on the back end, and adding Gonez affords them more patience on bringing up rnh... Not too mention adding experience to a very green top 9 group.
I doubt Habs would get anything close to fair value for Gorges without him playing at least a hand ful of games. No team would gamble like that

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06-29-2011, 01:39 PM
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Hemsky is not soft. Put that to rest now. And I cannot stand soft players. He is an elite playmaker in the right scenario and a magician with the puck. Not sure we are the right scenario, but there you go. He's gonna be expensive...

Would be a sweet combo with a guy like Patches that drives the net.

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Hemsky is almost a Point-Per-Game player when healthy. Oilers probably want to deal him as he is a UFA next year. Would they take Gomez (no joke, and would Gomez go there)?

Gomez would be a vet centre to play with Smyth and kids, plus allow the Oilers to get to Cap floor with lower actual paid salary in the 2 final years.

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The Oilers will try to make the PO this year so I think they will wait and see
If they can get a pair of quality defensemen it's possible and if that's what they're shooting for Hemsky shouldn't be available. Mind you, the last time Tambellini & Co. tried to make the playoffs they ended up with Taylor Hall so Hemsky could be available at the deadline..

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06-29-2011, 01:42 PM
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To Edm
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Gorges
3rd 2012

To Montreal
Hemsky
Plante


Hate to give up gorges, but you gotta give to get & give to get-rid-of...

Hemsky adds some much needed offensive punch and plante should b able to compete for bottom pairing spot by next year, if not sooner, while adding size/toughness to the depth chart.

With markov/subban, gill/hamrlik?/spacek, emelin/weber/Diaz, we have decent d depth, and Gomez off the books makes it easier to either lock up Wiz, and/or overpay for a guy like Hannan or jovo to make up for losing Gorges.

Oilers desperately need a guy like gorges on the back end, and adding Gonez affords them more patience on bringing up rnh... Not too mention adding experience to a very green top 9 group.
Why not do the Oilers a favour and take Souray of their hands?

That way you don't give up Gorges.

Put Souray on waivers, he clears then send to Hamilton. Then have him on recallable waivers and maybe a team picks him up, we are on the books for half the money. The salary owed to Hemsky and Souray equal that to what Gomez makes this season.

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Don't know what's the asking price, but I'm not sure how much they can realistically ask for a pending UFA.
they got pretty much for penner (1st, former 1st, and cond 2nd). i wouldn't pay as much for hemmer.

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Eh, his injury history has be a bit worried, but I wouldn't mind having a player like Hemsky on the team. He's not a soft Euro.

The asking price for Hemsky would probably be quite a bit though.
they need a center and they need good defensmen. would you do gomez + gorges for hemsky? would they?

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they need a center and they need good defensmen. would you do gomez + gorges for hemsky? would they?
Edmonton seems focused on building a forward corps of 23-and-under for whatever reason. I doubt they would be interested in Gomez.

They are crying out for quality NHL defensemen though.

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Hemsky is a beast. A legit borderline franchise like player. Forget top 6, he's a legit top line forward. He'd go very well with Cammalleri and Plekanec.

Hemsky-Plekanec-Cammalleri
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As top 9.

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they got pretty much for penner (1st, former 1st, and cond 2nd). i wouldn't pay as much for hemmer.
He's played quite a few more games.

At the same time, they're in a bad spot for Hemsky. Either they trade him now with his history, or wait for the deadline to show he can play until then, but if he gets hurt, they can't deal him.

As I said, I'm not sure what would be the asking price.

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it was said at the draft Hemsky is going to sign a long term deal. He is actually going to be part of their rookie camp as a coach. He wants to stay in Edmonton, so no idea where this bogus rumour came from.

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It's certainly not with players like Hemsky that we're going to win that 25th cup.

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it was said at the draft Hemsky is going to sign a long term deal. He is actually going to be part of their rookie camp as a coach. He wants to stay in Edmonton, so no idea where this bogus rumour came from.
They were trying to trade him to the Kings at the deadline, but LA wouldn't part with the requested Schenn.

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Hemsky has injury concerns. The Oilers are gambling if they retain him until the deadline. He might go down and then they couldn't trade him for a 1st. Maybe they want to go the safe way and get what they can while they can.

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