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06-29-2011, 11:36 PM
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Post your final Flyers free agency predictions here

Waivers, signings, any trades, etc. What will the Flyers do (as the eve of July 1st is less than 30 minutes away) from now until training camp. Here is your chance to be a hero or a dope.

Waivers - Michael Leighton, Matt Walker, Blair Betts

Trades - No more trades

RFA Signings - Jakub Voracek, 2 years 2.00 million per. Wayne Simmonds, 2 years, 1.50 million per.

UFA Signings - Joel Ward, 3 years 2.50 million per. John Madden, 2 years, 1.40 million per.
Sean O'Donnell, 1 year 1.00 million


FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Kris Versteeg ($3.083m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Joel Ward ($2.500m)
Andreas Nodl ($0.845m) / John Madden ($1.400m) / Ben Holmstrom ($0.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Sean O'Donnell ($1.000m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $63,301,428;
BONUSES: $3,940,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $998,572


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06-29-2011, 11:52 PM
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FA's(a list of players I believe we may be interested in): Shane O'Brien, Zenon Konopka, Michal Handzus, Fredrik Sjostrom, Erik Cole, Chris Higgins, Michael Ryder, Jussi Jokinen(long shot), Ville Leino, Scottie Upshall, Simon Gagne, James Wisniewski, Ian White, Brent Sopel.(realistically maybe one or two forwards and a defenseman, unless we somehow pull off Richards) RFAs: Ryan Callahan, Zach Bogosian, Luke Schenn, Steven Stamkos(long shot), and Brandon Dubinsky. If any trades happen, I believe they will involve Kris Versteeg or Matt Carle leaving or (if we resign Leino) I could see us trading for Valtteri Filppula. He and Leino played together (briefly) in Detroit and they know each other from Finland (I believe Filppula is from there, correct me if I'm wrong) and obviously the usual waiver suspects will go back to their real jobs in Adirondack

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I think we sign Ward, Torres, and Ericsson. No reasons to believe any of these guys will sign, but I guess it is wishful thinking if nothing else.

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06-30-2011, 12:10 AM
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I actually believe the Flyers that the big moves are done and over with, and from this point on they will look to add character, leadership, and intangible qualities such as size, toughness, PK skills, faceoff skills, etc.

They have the cap space to make some big noise, but I think they have learned their lesson from throwing around money. With teams looking to spend big just to hit the floor this could be the summer of overpayments and I would like to think that the Flyers will stay out of that type of nonsense.

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no way voracek and simmonds sign for that low.

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06-30-2011, 12:25 AM
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no way voracek and simmonds sign for that low.
I was thinking 2 for Simmonds, 2.5 for Voracek.

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06-30-2011, 12:49 AM
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Acquired- Brunette/Cole/Konopka/Bogo/Boosh

Traded- Versteeg/Bobrosky

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Acquired- Brunette i really hope not/Cole yes please/Konopka no, no and no some more/Bogo how do you propose this happens?/Boosh possibility if bob goes

Traded- Versteeg/Bobrosky
i'd like to see a veteran defensive center who can kill penalties, and win face-offs, a big bodied winger to take leinos spot, and a solid defensive d man, preferably Jan Hejda.

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no way voracek and simmonds sign for that low.
You keep saying this. Please tell us how much you think they both sign for....

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100 Million dollars


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Wonder if Winnipeg would give up Big Buff. He's been a Flyer for years.. he just doesn't know it.........

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Waivers, signings, any trades, etc. What will the Flyers do (as the eve of July 1st is less than 30 minutes away) from now until training camp. Here is your chance to be a hero or a dope.

Waivers - Michael Leighton, Matt Walker, Blair Betts

Trades - No more trades

RFA Signings - Jakub Voracek, 2 years 2.00 million per. Wayne Simmonds, 2 years, 1.50 million per.

UFA Signings - Joel Ward, 3 years 2.50 million per. John Madden, 2 years, 1.40 million per.
Sean O'Donnell, 1 year 1.00 million


FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.500m)
Kris Versteeg ($3.083m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Joel Ward ($2.500m)
Andreas Nodl ($0.845m) / John Madden ($1.400m) / Ben Holmstrom ($0.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Sean O'Donnell ($1.000m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $63,301,428;
BONUSES: $3,940,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $998,572
I like your roster. The idea of using the 3.5+ we would spend for Leino and applying it to Madden and a checking winger with offensive potential is a very good one IMO.

I know it's not likely (because Detroit has cap room) but I'd love to go hard after Patrick Eaves instead of Ward.

Also, I like O'Donnell, but I feel like his age started to show as the season progressed. I like the idea of Shane O'Brien better if we can get him.

I would probably swap out Sestito for Holmstrom and maybe put Wellwood as the 13th forward and save a little bit of money in the process. Bury Shelley in the Minors.

Hartnell 4.2 - Briere 6.5 - Voracek 2.5
JVR 1.654 - Giroux 3.75 - Versteeg 3.083
Eaves 2.0 - Schenn 3.11 - Simmonds 2.0
Nodl .845 - Madden 1.3 - Sestito .550
Wellwood .580

Pronger 4.921 - Carle 3.437
Timonen 6.333 - Coburn 3.2
Meszaros 4.0 - O'Brien 2.0

Bryzgalov 5.666
Bobrovsky 1.7

63.329M Dedicated
.971M Free

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Take that 3.5 or so that Ville wants and float it towards Jagr tomorrow. Verbal deal with the Pens for 2 million, but Jagr doesn't seem the type to refuse near double. We'd have an interesting weapon and we'd just give the Pens a huge **** you.

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You keep saying this. Please tell us how much you think they both sign for....
voracek closer to 3m and simmonds around 2.3

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Prediction: We sign Maxime Talbot and Vernon Fiddler for 1.5 mil each.

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I actually believe the Flyers that the big moves are done and over with, and from this point on they will look to add character, leadership, and intangible qualities such as size, toughness, PK skills, faceoff skills, etc.

They have the cap space to make some big noise, but I think they have learned their lesson from throwing around money. With teams looking to spend big just to hit the floor this could be the summer of overpayments and I would like to think that the Flyers will stay out of that type of nonsense.
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I was thinking 2 for Simmonds, 2.5 for Voracek.
I agree with both sentiments.

I think the big moves are done for the Flyers. I think they covet the flexability and depth they now have, and will look to add quality character guys to round out the roster.

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Is fiddler a free agent? I like fiddler

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Is fiddler a free agent? I like fiddler
He is. Phoenix's salary chart is either guys who are FAs this year or guys who are FAs next year. Take your pick.

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Is fiddler a free agent? I like fiddler


I can see his name in lights already. 5 nights a week.


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voracek closer to 3m and simmonds around 2.3
The ONLY way they even sniff those numbers if they sign a very long term deal, at least four years, and the Flyers pay them based on potential for the long haul of the deal.

If they only sign for a year, two, or even three, neither Voracek nor Simmonds has done anything to earn those types of numbers and they won't get that.

News flash dude, they are RFA's, not UFA's.

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100 Million dollars

No, that's gonna be Stamkos.

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voracek closer to 3m and simmonds around 2.3
Coracek hasn't done anything to deserve 3 (3 at 2.25) mil and as for Simmonds its possible, but hell most likely sign 3 years and take a lower cap hit. (3 at 1.75)

If Oshie got a 1 year at 2.35, why would you think that Voracek would get more over more years? Not gonna happen.

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Voracek and Simmonds average total will likely be around 3.5 million each

Vorcek at 1.8 and simmonds at 1.7

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Jason Arnott- 1 year 2.75
Joel Ward 3 years 1.5 per
Anton Babchuk- 2 years 2.5 million

Carle traded to Colorado for a 2nd rounder next year

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Jason Arnott- 1 year 2.75
Joel Ward 3 years 1.5 per
Anton Babchuk- 2 years 2.5 million

Carle traded to Colorado for a 2nd rounder next year
Arnott wants two years.
Babchuk is pretty brutal defensively, possibly worse then Carle.. IIRC.



And does singing Arnott leave Schenn in the AHL? don't see that happening.

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