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Rangers vs. Sabres prospect pool

View Poll Results: Rangers or Sabres - better pool of prospects?
New York Rangers 29 60.42%
Buffalo Sabres 19 39.58%
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06-29-2011, 12:57 PM
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Rangers vs. Sabres prospect pool

Which club has the better pool of prospects TODAY?

Rangers or Sabres?

Please try to be objective and keep personal biases against teams or players out of the vote.

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06-29-2011, 01:23 PM
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I have no idea, as will most who respond to this poll.

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06-29-2011, 02:34 PM
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Joel Armia
Zack Kassian
Mark Pysyk
Jhonas Enroth
Luke Adam
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Marcus Foligno
Brayden McNabb
Daniel Cattenacci

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Chris Kreider
Christian Thomas
Ryan McDonagh
Dylan McIlrath
JT Miller
Tim Erixon
Evgeny Grachev
Michael St. Croix
Mats Zuccarello

I'm picking the Rangers here; I like what Buffalo is doing (adding size and snarl to what is a small, easily-pushed around forward group), but I think the Rangers have great talent at every position (except goal) and a top-10 prospect group in the NHL.

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06-29-2011, 02:44 PM
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I have more faith in Buffalo's system to bring up good players than the Rangers. Most of the Sabre players are draftees from them and have made good impacts over the years like Roy, Pominville, Myers, Miller, Vanek, Ennis, etc while Rangers haven't drafted a 1st line forward or drop a top 6 forward who scored 20 goals in the 1st round for a while.

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06-29-2011, 03:34 PM
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I have more faith in Buffalo's system to bring up good players than the Rangers. Most of the Sabre players are draftees from them and have made good impacts over the years like Roy, Pominville, Myers, Miller, Vanek, Ennis, etc while Rangers haven't drafted a 1st line forward or drop a top 6 forward who scored 20 goals in the 1st round for a while.
In the Rangers defense, that's largely because they've only drafted 4 forwards in the first round in the last ten years. Jessiman busted, Cherepanov died, Korpikoski was traded and Kreider is their top prospect. If you limit it to the last 6 drafts (not counting 2011), they've drafted two forwards and four defensemen. One of those two forwards is the Rangers' top prospect, and the other was looking like a sure-fire first line player when he tragically died. Of the defenders, Staal is a first pairing blue-liner on most teams in the league and two of the other three are still works in progress.

Meanwhile, about half of the Ranger's forwards are home-grown, all six of next season's projected defense were either drafted by the Rangers or signed/traded for before they ever played an NHL game (Staal, Sauer, and Del Zotto were all drafted, Girardi was an undrafted FA, and Erixon and McDonagh were traded for before ever skating an NHL or AHL game). Lundqvist was also a draft pick.

The Rangers haven't drafted very many top-line players, but that is largely due in part to never having particularly high picks, and tragedy in their prospect pool.

Stepan, Dubinsky and Callahan all scored 20+ goals last season, and Anisimov scored 18. That fact shouldn't be ignored because they were 2nd round picks (or 4th round in Cally's case). In fact, a couple of the Buffalo players you listed (Roy, Miller and Pominville) weren't first rounders themselves.

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Joel Armia
Zack Kassian
Mark Pysyk
Jhonas Enroth
Luke Adam
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Marcus Foligno
Brayden McNabb
Daniel Cattenacci

vs.



Chris Kreider
Christian Thomas
Ryan McDonagh
Dylan McIlrath
JT Miller
Tim Erixon
Evgeny Grachev
Michael St. Croix
Mats Zuccarello

I'm picking the Rangers here; I like what Buffalo is doing (adding size and snarl to what is a small, easily-pushed around forward group), but I think the Rangers have great talent at every position (except goal) and a top-10 prospect group in the NHL.
Grachev was traded to the Blues. But even without him I still have to give the edge to the Rangers by a slight margin. If they had taken Fowler/Gormley instead of McIlrath the difference would have been greater though.

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06-29-2011, 08:02 PM
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Anisimov and Stepan making the jump in consecutive seasons, combined with Buffalo fixing their issues at forward have me going Buffalo here.

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06-29-2011, 08:15 PM
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Rangers but it's close.

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06-30-2011, 05:29 AM
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I would rather have the Rangers' but this is a very good poll

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06-30-2011, 07:26 AM
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I still love Luke Adam.

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Sabres fan voting for the Rangers, but only by a hair. Rangers have better top-end talent that's closer to being NHL ready, but the Sabres might have more depth.

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Close but Buffalo

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Rangers rights now, close though. Both have good prospects.

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